Windows Activation Technologies Update for Windows 7

[Dwarf]

Unfortunately, that is undoubtedly true. Whatever technologies are developed to protect intellectual properties and rights, there are always unscrupulous people, either working alone or as small groups, who will strive to circumvent such technologies (and, in most cases, they will succeed). The only thing that companies such as Microsoft (and others) can do is to continually develop and evolve the technology.

 

[baarod]

Unfortunately, that is undoubtedly true. Whatever technologies are developed to protect intellectual properties and rights, there are always unscrupulous people, either working alone or as small groups, who will strive to circumvent such technologies (and, in most cases, they will succeed). The only thing that companies such as Microsoft (and others) can do is to continually develop and evolve the technology.

Disagree. Encryption technology has always outpaced piracy schemes and is the basis for most security on the web and in the enterprise (photon torpedoes are a close second Adoption failure has been the root cause of many security issues -- look at WEP that can be broken in SECONDS using freely downloadable, bootable toolkits like Backtrack. If Microsoft were serious about curbing piracy they could simply shell out a stipend to OEM and motherboard manufacturers on each unit. If the manufacturers chose to produce hardware that was able to run new Windows builds they would take the money and run. Remember that there is no problem running Linux on EFI machines -- the GRUB guys have been doing longer than Microsoft! I think Microsoft should put this scheme in front of the board of directors and the government regulators citing that Apple's been using EFI for some time now and than nobody would make a PC mobo that can't run Windows. The cash they give to manufacturers would be reaped multiply on gains from new OS sales.

Or maybe, just maybe, they're worried that such a scheme would drive Apple and Linux sales? Hmm? Is Microsoft failing to curb piracy to ensure "unearned market share?" It's an interesting question knowing that if some ding dong from sevenforums can sew up their piracy issues in a single post than they've surely thought of it long before I have.

 

[ratePV]

Just to add my 0.02$

The update is maybe momentarily voluntary, but that wont be the case in SP1.

 

[pparks1]

Hmm? Is Microsoft failing to curb piracy to ensure "unearned market share?" It's an interesting question knowing that if some ding dong from sevenforums can sew up their piracy issues in a single post than they've surely thought of it long before I have.

I think there is a fair amount of truth to this idea. I think Microsoft knows they can survive from new machine sales and business purchases and licensing. They don't want to make it drop dead simple to pirate...but they don't want to ensure that it cannot be used by pirates...if this were the case...some would certainly turn to alternatives.

 

[omegatron]

I can honestly say, that even if i do install this, which might i add will probably be mandatory, (because as we all remember in the days of XP, you had to install the WGA before getting any further updates unless there was a way round this, then i am mistaken) i doubt it will make any difference to me.

... AutoPatcher.com

Only need WGA for media player and windows defender... programs I don't use anyways...

 

[baarod]

OK folks after all this time with free Windows... If there were no way to get it. Would you?

 

[jfar]

Would you what?

 

[smsff7]

OK folks after all this time with free Windows... If there were no way to get it. Would you?

If I had no choice I would go back to XP....but with MSDNAA I don't think I would have a prob

 

[baarod]

Would you what?

Pirate.

 

[baarod]

I'm sorry for all this. I'll just go back where I came from...

 

[jfar]

I knew you would say that bold word.

 

[baarod]

I knew you would say that bold word.

And so should I quote it ?

 

[Legacy Code]

Would you what?

Pirate.

Heaven forbid , no one would do such a thing like that on these forums If i had to choose another OS apart from W7 it would be Vista.

 

[fseal]

How would there be no way to get it?

How did you afford a computer if you can't afford an OS to run on it?

If I couldn't afford to buy photoshop I'd buy Photoshop Elemets, if I couldn't afford that I'd use GIMP. If I couldn't afford Windows, I'd use Linux.

There is NO EXCUSE for pirating. It's just "Gimmie Gimmie, mine mine, everything not nailed down deserves to me mine". I wouldn'd half mind if people that pirate would just ADMIT that they were doing wrong, but trying to justify it is generally pretty childish and lame.

I particularly disllike pirates because it's THEIR FAULT that *I* have to put up with hokey and broken anti-pirate mechanisms

 

[dmex]

"And as long as they're going to steal it, we want them to steal ours. They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade." - Bill Gates

How Piracy Opens Doors for Windows

 

[Kari]

There is NO EXCUSE for pirating. It's just "Gimmie Gimmie, mine mine, everything not nailed down deserves to me mine". I wouldn'd half mind if people that pirate would just ADMIT that they were doing wrong, but trying to justify it is generally pretty childish and lame.

+1

Very well put.

Kari

 

[DarkPhoenix]

I agree with most of the above post.. this sounds like a red herring. I cannot understand why a person who knows they paid for the Win 7 software, would think they really need to run this on their system. Most of us got our copies from large retail outlets like best buy.

If a person knows they got an illegal copy from the internet, they will refuse to install the software also. Microsoft makes this really silly when they tell the whole world about this update. They should sneak it into other updates so they will catch the illegal user unawares.

I would assume like in the past, a detection of a failed validation would trigger a either a halt of the system, or default to a 30 day trial with options to purchase the software and make it legal. But then the user can uninstall the update and re apply the hack? Why would they allow this?

If it were just a matter of trying to protect illegal users from virus's and malware without any penalties, Microsoft would not do it in the guise of an activation update. They would simply make a statement saying that illegal software may contain virus's and offer a virus checker.

But what if they are not really trying to catch these people...which would be silly because it would send a message to pirates that they can get away with stealing.

Something is so fishy about this to me, I believe the update must do something Microsoft is not telling us about. Perhaps they want a way to track how many pirated copies are being used, or the hopes of finding new ways of thwarting the illegal hacks. Either way, this just makes no sense, because only the legit users might install it.

Also, one day React OS might grow up and take hold. When that happens No one will need to buy or pirate Windows. They could just use React OS for their operating system and run any Windows program they want.

If you don't know, React OS is a free operating system being developed from the ground up to be a clone of sorts of windows XP and compatible with windows software but uses a different file system. It is out now, but it is in it's early stages. Still, its a great model that is working and proves what can be done.

Check it out here: http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html

 

[pezzonovante]

I agree with most of the above post.. this sounds like a red herring. I cannot understand why a person who knows they paid for the Win 7 software, would think they really need to run this on their system. Most of us got our copies from large retail outlets like best buy.

If a person knows they got an illegal copy from the internet, they will refuse to install the software also. Microsoft makes this really silly when they tell the whole world about this update. They should sneak it into other updates so they will catch the illegal user unawares.

I would assume like in the past, a detection of a failed validation would trigger a either a halt of the system, or default to a 30 day trial with options to purchase the software and make it legal. But then the user can uninstall the update and re apply the hack? Why would they allow this?

If it were just a matter of trying to protect illegal users from virus's and malware without any penalties, Microsoft would not do it in the guise of an activation update. They would simply make a statement saying that illegal software may contain virus's and offer a virus checker.

But what if they are not really trying to catch these people...which would be silly because it would send a message to pirates that they can get away with stealing.

Something is so fishy about this to me, I believe the update must do something Microsoft is not telling us about. Perhaps they want a way to track how many pirated copies are being used, or the hopes of finding new ways of thwarting the illegal hacks. Either way, this just makes no sense, because only the legit users might install it.

Also, one day React OS might grow up and take hold. When that happens No one will need to buy or pirate Windows. They could just use React OS for their operating system and run any Windows program they want.

If you don't know, React OS is a free operating system being developed from the ground up to be a clone of sorts of windows XP and compatible with windows software but uses a different file system. It is out now, but it is in it's early stages. Still, its a great model that is working and proves what can be done.

Check it out here: Frontpage - ReactOS Website

Why are they trying to emulate Windows XP? XP is a fugly and almost unusable OS. I would be interested only if they start to develop a clone of Windows 7.

 

[monkeys breath]

The hackers are sweating bullets now I bet.... :roflmao:

NOT

the hackers will simply pick this lock just like they do every lock. there is no lock that cannot be picked.

But sure all the hackers will do is not install the download, Why would MS tell them that
they were going to send out this update, makes no sense.

because it is free advertising for microsoft. do you really think ms really cares about the 1% or less that pirate the os, NO. just like with the record and movie industries it is more about free advertising, and gullible people fall for it.

 

[Kari]

I wonder where this 1% figure comes from. BSA (Business Software Alliance) piracy rate statistics shows it's a lot more:



Kari