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I get insanely fast writes over USB2.0 to my WD externals.
A friend just bought the WD My Book 3.0 and I installed the card in his PC and tested it out really quick and it was twice as fast using USB3, but it was 50% slower than my 1TB black in a My Book USB2 case.

Also, there is a different connector on the Drive so you need a special cable right now for USB3 devices. the other end is a standard looking USB end that plugs into any USB port on your pc.
 

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Intel i7 3770K
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Asus Sabertooth Z77
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XFX HD6950 2GB EyeFinity
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Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD
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23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic
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16TB of Storage
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I get insanely fast writes over USB2.0 to my WD externals.
A friend just bought the WD My Book 3.0 and I installed the card in his PC and tested it out really quick and it was twice as fast using USB3, but it was 50% slower than my 1TB black in a My Book USB2 case.

Case to post HDTune benchmarks for proof of that?
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium x64Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz4GB DDR2-800MSI Radeon HD 5850
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Windows 7 Home Premium x64
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Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz
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Asus P5Q PRO Turbo
Memory
4GB DDR2-800
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MSI Radeon HD 5850
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Creative Labs Audigy2 ZS
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Samsung 225BW
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(2) 1TB Samsung F1, (2) 1.5TB Samsung F2, 1TB Samsung F2, 2TB Samsung F3
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Corsair HX650
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Antec Nine Hundred
I get insanely fast writes over USB2.0 to my WD externals.
A friend just bought the WD My Book 3.0 and I installed the card in his PC and tested it out really quick and it was twice as fast using USB3, but it was 50% slower than my 1TB black in a My Book USB2 case.

Case to post HDTune benchmarks for proof of that?
I'll try and run HD Tune at his place when I bring his drive back and get a USB3 speed.
We just timed the transfers and used the Windows transfer speed.

Here are 3 HD Tune Benches for 3 external drives on USB2 on my machine that I just ran and they all look like they run about the same speed,
500GB WD My Book
1TB Black in a My Book case
My Book 3.0 1TB
 

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Intel i7 3770K
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Asus Sabertooth Z77
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Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD
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23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic
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16TB of Storage
128GB & 256GB Crucial M4 SSD's, 2X 1TB WD Black, 3x 2TB WD, 3x 2TB Samsung F4, 1.5TB Seagate, WD 500GB,
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Antec True Power New 650watt
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Cooler Master HAF-932
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Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan
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Logitech G15 and G13
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Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse
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50/10 Mbit
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Windows 7 Home Premium x64
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Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz
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Asus P5Q PRO Turbo
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4GB DDR2-800
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MSI Radeon HD 5850
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Creative Labs Audigy2 ZS
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Samsung 225BW
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(2) 1TB Samsung F1, (2) 1.5TB Samsung F2, 1TB Samsung F2, 2TB Samsung F3
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Corsair HX650
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Antec Nine Hundred
Yep...pretty surprising when you look at a REAL resource instead.

First off, I just wanted to say that's a bit of a nasty tone of voice you got there. PCMag is a trusted and accredited source for computer information.

Secondly, I ran some of my own tests. While yes, HD Tune will give you a rate of about 33mb/s, HD Tune is not real world testing, which was what was performed in the article in question. HD Tune is benchmarking, what they did was a simple file copy test, what normal people do. After doing my own tests in a similar manner to theirs, I was surprised to find that yes, you do achieve speeds of about twice their reported speeds, in my case on a USB 2.0 line I received 27mb/s average while transferring about 1gb of data in the form of small files such as MP3's, and large program files such as .iso's.

One lurking variable that I have not tested yet may be hard drive caching. In the reported study they moved 26gbs of data, in the form of 16,000 files. I have not done this yet, but when I do the results may be interesting.

My only other guess would be that the device that they used in testing, a PCI Express slot card, created a hidden variable unforeseen. I am currently trying to get in contact with the writer of the original article to verify this possibility.

Thank you for pointing out the possible error in this study. I'll update the article as soon as I can receive some confirmation.
 

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Zen Productions
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Intel i7-860
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Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P
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Corsair Dominator 1600Mhz, 8-8-8-24 1.65v 2x2GB
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ATI Radeon 5770 HD
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Intel High Definition Sound
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Samsung P2570HD
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Western Digital Caviar Black 500gb
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Corsair CMPSU-750HX 750W
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Antec p183
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Corsair H50 Water Cooler
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Logitech G110
Mouse
Logitech MX Revolution
Internet Speed
768 mb/s
We were looking at this number and timing the transfers, but I will run HD tune at my friends place with the new drive since I installed the card in his PC.
My 1TB Black
mybook1tb.jpg


My Book 500GB
mybook500.jpg
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64bitIntel i7 3770K16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3XFX HD6950 2GB EyeFinity
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HAL-9000
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Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
CPU
Intel i7 3770K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z77
Memory
16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3
Graphics Card(s)
XFX HD6950 2GB EyeFinity
Sound Card
Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD
Monitor(s) Displays
23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic
Screen Resolution
5760x1080
Hard Drives
16TB of Storage
128GB & 256GB Crucial M4 SSD's, 2X 1TB WD Black, 3x 2TB WD, 3x 2TB Samsung F4, 1.5TB Seagate, WD 500GB,
PSU
Antec True Power New 650watt
Case
Cooler Master HAF-932
Cooling
Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan
Keyboard
Logitech G15 and G13
Mouse
Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbit
Other Info
Speakers : Alesis M1 Active Mk2 Studio Monitors , APC RS 1200 UPS, HP 4500DN Color Laser, HP P1006 mono Laser, Kodak 8500 Dye-Sub, Epson 1280 inkjet, Epson Worforce 610 MFC
First off, I just wanted to say that's a bit of a nasty tone of voice you got there. PCMag is a trusted and accredited source for computer information.

How can you tell "tone" in black and white text? If you can figure that out you might want to pass it along to the first deaf person you see.

I merely pointed out that the benchmarks are fraudulent. I have provided proof from 3 different resources.

PCMag is not a trusted and accredited anything. They are just a group of people that got together to produce a magazine that doesn't even really sell. Half of the magazine is fed with advertisements just so they can make some sort of money. Look, I'll even give you ANOTHER resource showing PCMag to be false: USB 3.0 Drive Smackdown - Performance - HD Tune Write Benchmarks

Secondly, I ran some of my own tests. While yes, HD Tune will give you a rate of about 33mb/s, HD Tune is not real world testing, which was what was performed in the article in question. HD Tune is benchmarking, what they did was a simple file copy test, what normal people do. After doing my own tests in a similar manner to theirs, I was surprised to find that yes, you do achieve speeds of about twice their reported speeds, in my case on a USB 2.0 line I received 27mb/s average while transferring about 1gb of data in the form of small files such as MP3's, and large program files such as .iso's.

HDTune is one of many HDD benchmark utilities and is quite accurate in showing actual transfer rate across the entire drive itself. In regards to USB 2.0 it is very reliable in showing the limitations of USB 2.0 transfer speed. With USB 3.0 the hard drive itself is the bottleneck.

Windows transfer rates are not reliable because it's based upon buffered transfers between drives/partitions.
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium x64
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Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz
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Asus P5Q PRO Turbo
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4GB DDR2-800
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MSI Radeon HD 5850
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Creative Labs Audigy2 ZS
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Samsung 225BW
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(2) 1TB Samsung F1, (2) 1.5TB Samsung F2, 1TB Samsung F2, 2TB Samsung F3
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Corsair HX650
Case
Antec Nine Hundred
We were looking at this number and timing the transfers, but I will run HD tune at my friends place with the new drive since I installed the card in his PC.
My 1TB Black
mybook1tb.jpg


My Book 500GB
mybook500.jpg

These again? Look, you already proved that actual transfer rate of your 1TB WD Black over USB 2.0 is a normal 33.1MB/s. Windows transfer rates aren't going to exceed the throughput limitation of the drive itself nor the limitation of the interface (USB 2.0).

Also, again, you might want to think twice before putting your pirated movie information up on public forums.
 
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Windows 7 Home Premium x64Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz4GB DDR2-800MSI Radeon HD 5850
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Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz
Motherboard
Asus P5Q PRO Turbo
Memory
4GB DDR2-800
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Radeon HD 5850
Sound Card
Creative Labs Audigy2 ZS
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 225BW
Hard Drives
(2) 1TB Samsung F1, (2) 1.5TB Samsung F2, 1TB Samsung F2, 2TB Samsung F3
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Corsair HX650
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Antec Nine Hundred
As an update to this thread. Today I recreated the conditions of the testing quoted in the article and I received the same results as posted. I believe that what speeds are quoted are sustained read speeds, and the speeds you are all receiving to be burst read speeds.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64Intel i7-860Corsair Dominator 1600Mhz, 8-8-8-24 1.65v 2x2GBATI Radeon 5770 HD
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Zen Productions
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel i7-860
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P
Memory
Corsair Dominator 1600Mhz, 8-8-8-24 1.65v 2x2GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon 5770 HD
Sound Card
Intel High Definition Sound
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung P2570HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar Black 500gb
PSU
Corsair CMPSU-750HX 750W
Case
Antec p183
Cooling
Corsair H50 Water Cooler
Keyboard
Logitech G110
Mouse
Logitech MX Revolution
Internet Speed
768 mb/s
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