Question about UAC warnings....

Does the programs write stuff (maybe settings to some ini..etc) to protected areas (program files, windows folder, non-user areas)?

Don't really know UAC well enough but to me I think its to control changes in system areas.


Actually yes...

The email program sets up a default mail directory in it's own folder under Program Files... win98 style. I always move that over to a space on my D: drive that gets backed up every couple of days... So, reading the article I linked to, I tried deleting the empty mail folder... now it won't run at all. Re-creating the folder does get it going again, but the warnings are back.

Pelles C is an ANSI-C language compiler and Source Code editor. During compile it has to access windows headers and libraries from it's own folders in Program Files... I can move them but given the fate of my other program...

If I turn UAC off the only way I can run either program is to run them as Administrator.

If I boot to XP, both work perfectly with no hesitation at all (and have for several years).

So....Once again I find myself seriously losing patience with this operating system...
 

My Computer

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Homebrew
OS
XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
CPU
Amd 64 x2 4200 (2.4ghz)
Motherboard
Asus M2N-MX SE Plus
Memory
Kingston DDR2 800 2gb
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GF-8400
Sound Card
Realtek on Motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer x-193bw
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1440 x 900
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Western Digital 500g
PSU
350watt In-Win
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In-Win
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Air
Keyboard
yes
Mouse
yes
Internet Speed
5mpbs
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Also ASRock ION 330 as HTPC (on XP).
Acer Aspire as GP netbook (on XP).
Are the actual programs on the desktop or just shortcuts. It might be that they are loading into memory on startup and needing sigs just to be put into memory.

If they are, put them in a folder not on the desktop and see if that keeps them from prompting.
If they are shortcuts then Im baffled.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ASUS G60-RBBX05
OS
Win7 Home Premium 64x
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo P7450 / 2.13 GHz (2.29 with Extreme Turbo)
Memory
4 GB PC-6400 Hyundai (2X2) at 800Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M 1GB DDR3 VRAM
Monitor(s) Displays
16" LED Backlit
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 on laptop 1600x1050 max res on 22" external mon
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility 3 60GB SSD / 320 GB - Serial ATA-150 - 7200 rpm
PSU
6-cell Lithium ion { lasts 1.5 hours }
Case
ASUS G60 Laptop
Keyboard
Chicklet type back-lit (white light) keyboard
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser Mouse 3200dpi and 1000 reports per minute
Internet Speed
Comcast 8.60mb/s up - 3.11mb/s down
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
General mid-budget gaming Comp. Low batterylife - High FrameRates - currently overheating problems :(

2nd Rig: Case: Rosewill BLACKHAWK Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3
CPU: AMD FX-6200 Zambezi 3.8GHz (4.1GHz Turbo)
Heatsink: COOLER MASTER V8 CPU Cooler
RAM: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1866 (PC3 15000)
GPU: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850 1GB 2
Are the actual programs on the desktop or just shortcuts. It might be that they are loading into memory on startup and needing sigs just to be put into memory.

If they are, put them in a folder not on the desktop and see if that keeps them from prompting.
If they are shortcuts then Im baffled.

They're shortcuts.
Neither loads on startup.
Neither uses services or tray tasks.

You're baffled... you should be here... :confused:

These are totally safe programs but in order to use them I have to totally defeat my system's security...
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Homebrew
OS
XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
CPU
Amd 64 x2 4200 (2.4ghz)
Motherboard
Asus M2N-MX SE Plus
Memory
Kingston DDR2 800 2gb
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GF-8400
Sound Card
Realtek on Motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer x-193bw
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
Western Digital 500g
PSU
350watt In-Win
Case
In-Win
Cooling
Air
Keyboard
yes
Mouse
yes
Internet Speed
5mpbs
Other Info
Also ASRock ION 330 as HTPC (on XP).
Acer Aspire as GP netbook (on XP).
Did you try the elevated shortcut thing through taskmanager? Its real easy....

Mainly my tips would be to name the new task the same as the program but add admin to the front. And to create a folder to hold the shortcuts. and name the shortcut the same as the taskname.....
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ASUS G60-RBBX05
OS
Win7 Home Premium 64x
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo P7450 / 2.13 GHz (2.29 with Extreme Turbo)
Memory
4 GB PC-6400 Hyundai (2X2) at 800Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M 1GB DDR3 VRAM
Monitor(s) Displays
16" LED Backlit
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 on laptop 1600x1050 max res on 22" external mon
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility 3 60GB SSD / 320 GB - Serial ATA-150 - 7200 rpm
PSU
6-cell Lithium ion { lasts 1.5 hours }
Case
ASUS G60 Laptop
Keyboard
Chicklet type back-lit (white light) keyboard
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser Mouse 3200dpi and 1000 reports per minute
Internet Speed
Comcast 8.60mb/s up - 3.11mb/s down
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
General mid-budget gaming Comp. Low batterylife - High FrameRates - currently overheating problems :(

2nd Rig: Case: Rosewill BLACKHAWK Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3
CPU: AMD FX-6200 Zambezi 3.8GHz (4.1GHz Turbo)
Heatsink: COOLER MASTER V8 CPU Cooler
RAM: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1866 (PC3 15000)
GPU: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850 1GB 2
Did you try the elevated shortcut thing through taskmanager? Its real easy....

Mainly my tips would be to name the new task the same as the program but add admin to the front. And to create a folder to hold the shortcuts. and name the shortcut the same as the taskname.....

I've now tried all the suggestions given... same result... one startup shields, next one not... but it's not even predictable it might be one way three times then flip...

I finally gave up and disabled the System Security service. The programs work fine so I'm not worried about security... but at least now they actually run.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Homebrew
OS
XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
CPU
Amd 64 x2 4200 (2.4ghz)
Motherboard
Asus M2N-MX SE Plus
Memory
Kingston DDR2 800 2gb
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GF-8400
Sound Card
Realtek on Motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer x-193bw
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
Western Digital 500g
PSU
350watt In-Win
Case
In-Win
Cooling
Air
Keyboard
yes
Mouse
yes
Internet Speed
5mpbs
Other Info
Also ASRock ION 330 as HTPC (on XP).
Acer Aspire as GP netbook (on XP).
Maybe you can try to install/move those programs elsewhere, perhaps to C:/User/username/AppData/Roaming
There the programs can change stuff in its own folder without admin privileges.
(I think thats the place where programmers should program their applications to place the settings at. Well, the new practice with UAC in the scene.)
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Pro x64
CPU
C2D E6550
Motherboard
Asus P5K-SE
Memory
DDR2 PC2-5300 4x1GB
Graphics Card(s)
Asus ENGT430 (NVidia 430GT)
Sound Card
Xonar DX
Monitor(s) Displays
LG W2241T
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
80GB and 1TB from WD
250GB from Seagate
PSU
CM eXtreme Power 430W
Case
elite 330
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Powerlogic ZEN Z200
Mouse
MS Basic Optical Mouse 2.0
Maybe you can try to install/move those programs elsewhere, perhaps to C:/User/username/AppData/Roaming
There the programs can change stuff in its own folder without admin privileges.
(I think thats the place where programmers should program their applications to place the settings at. Well, the new practice with UAC in the scene.)

Actually settings should be in the registry at HKEY_CURRENT_USER.

Portable aps that use INI files can write to Roaming or the drive/device where the portable ap is to be housed.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Homebrew
OS
XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
CPU
Amd 64 x2 4200 (2.4ghz)
Motherboard
Asus M2N-MX SE Plus
Memory
Kingston DDR2 800 2gb
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GF-8400
Sound Card
Realtek on Motherboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer x-193bw
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
Western Digital 500g
PSU
350watt In-Win
Case
In-Win
Cooling
Air
Keyboard
yes
Mouse
yes
Internet Speed
5mpbs
Other Info
Also ASRock ION 330 as HTPC (on XP).
Acer Aspire as GP netbook (on XP).
Hmm, i don't think UAC govern writing settings to registry as Media Player Classic HC seems to write settings to registry ok even with standard user privilege, its only when I try to write the settings to an ini file then it can't do as it isn't run as admin.
(Running it as admin or moving it out of Program Files made creating the ini file possible.)
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Pro x64
CPU
C2D E6550
Motherboard
Asus P5K-SE
Memory
DDR2 PC2-5300 4x1GB
Graphics Card(s)
Asus ENGT430 (NVidia 430GT)
Sound Card
Xonar DX
Monitor(s) Displays
LG W2241T
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
80GB and 1TB from WD
250GB from Seagate
PSU
CM eXtreme Power 430W
Case
elite 330
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Powerlogic ZEN Z200
Mouse
MS Basic Optical Mouse 2.0
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