Windows 7 Update Ends Chance to Revert to XP

[echrada]

The clock is ticking on the demise of some downgrade rights for Windows 7, an analyst said Thursday.

Windows 7 Update Ends Chance to Revert to XP - PCWorld

 

[w7101]

I still don't understand WHY people want to go back to The OLD OS while they can have a nice fast wds that they already paid for it.....
Maybe ...they are used to the OLD Xp ...i get it ...
But is it time to move on and learn some new better stuffs...?
"Stop wasting your money ...people ..."

 

[Zen00]

Technically XP is faster than Win7, but then again, it's not nearly as complex and feature rich either.

 

[mlevy]

Not to mention that some apps just won't work in 7. I support a large corporation and I know that one of the apps they use requires Oracle 8i which will not install on Win. 7, only Oracle 11 does.

 

[severedsolo]

Technically XP is faster than Win7, but then again, it's not nearly as complex and feature rich either.

i think it depends on your equipment.... for instance, My PC was built in the "late Vista" period and its just not built to run XP.... i actually tried, and had so many issues it was unbelievable, not just with with drivers, but even getting the damn thing to register XP at all. faster? not really... as the extra effort of making it work easily lost me a week....

 

[w7101]

Technically XP is faster than Win7, but then again, it's not nearly as complex and feature rich either.

i think it depends on your equipment.... for instance, My PC was built in the "late Vista" period and its just not built to run XP.... i actually tried, and had so many issues it was unbelievable, not just with with drivers, but even getting the damn thing to register XP at all. faster? not really... as the extra effort of making it work easily lost me a week....

Same here .... my laptop came with Wds "suck" vista home prem.....
I had to tweak most of every "Fricking" thing to get it to work the way i like ..
As the mater of fact ...i belive M$ owes us who bought that Wds"suck" vista ...and give us some rebate for wds7 ...don't you think ...? Can U hear me ..M$ ..?

 

[Prisoner]

I find 7 to run much faster on this system than XP did. Probably because I edited and deleted so much junk I never used before I actually installed it...

XP ran on idle about 60% of my 1 gig RAM, whereas 7 uses around 30% using the same third party apps on both OS's.

Now that I figured out how to make the install smaller to fit on my hand-me-down computers, I will never go back to XP, unless somehow my "fixed" copies of 7 get destroyed. So my personal opinion is that this is an excellent move for Microsoft (finally).

 

[WindowsStar]

I still don't understand WHY people want to go back to The OLD OS while they can have a nice fast wds that they already paid for it.....
Maybe ...they are used to the OLD Xp ...i get it ...
But is it time to move on and learn some new better stuffs...?
"Stop wasting your money ...people ..."

It is not that we want to go back to an old OS, but that we have to for now. I work in an environment that has Windows XP on thousands of machines. We have a lot of propriety software that will need to be upgraded or replaced. There is no way I can just across the board replace every machine with Windows 7. We also have to upgrade DCs, Print Servers, Gateways etc. all to work with Windows 7. Typically this downgrade is for the Corp Enterprise world. It gives us the ability to buy new machines (typically a 100 at a time) with a Windows 7 licenses but downgrade it to Windows XP to work in our environment until all the upgrades are in place. We then can go back to the new machines with Windows 7 license and upgrade them without needed to buy a Windows 7 license.

But from a home user point of view this makes no sense why would you buy a Windows 7 machine with a downgrade rights. When a home user buys a Windows 7 machine (typically 1 machine at a time) they are READY for Windows 7 and don’t need the downgrade rights.

 

[Ryan2320]

But from a home user point of view this makes no sense why would you buy a Windows 7 machine with a downgrade rights. When a home user buys a Windows 7 machine (typically 1 machine at a time) they are READY for Windows 7 and don’t need the downgrade rights.

I agree, having a home user downgrade to XP (To me, a waste of money) You have a wonderful up to date hardware, and you use an operating system that uses old hardware and probably won't work right away.

But with the business side, I really think they should be putting on some pressure and there application developers because XP is not going to last forever!

 

[WindowsStar]

But from a home user point of view this makes no sense why would you buy a Windows 7 machine with a downgrade rights. When a home user buys a Windows 7 machine (typically 1 machine at a time) they are READY for Windows 7 and don’t need the downgrade rights.

I agree, having a home user downgrade to XP (To me, a waste of money) You have a wonderful up to date hardware, and you use an operating system that uses old hardware and probably won't work right away.

But with the business side, I really think they should be putting on some pressure and there application developers because XP is not going to last forever!

We can put pressure on them but are you going to pay the 10 million for the upgrade for the 100 propriety software we have and old hardware that needs an upgrade?? Last I checked Hardware and software is not free.

Home users don't understand the major changes we have to go through to put a new OS out. This is nothing like your home PC. We have to make everything work together and keep employees productive. I have to make sure the computer connects to a network and be secure, connect to unsecure networks as securely as possible, connect to trusted networks (tokens and keys), I have to make sure the machine can print to printers, copiers, fax machines, main frame printers, mid-range printers, make sure the machine can scan from network scanners, local scanners, make sure they have access to share drives, shared documents, collaboration, make sure they have access to corporate email, calendaring, voicemail, connection to DC, GC, KMS, LDAP, AD, make sure they can use their logon script (Windows XP very different than Windows 7), make sure they have VPN access, mobile computing, PDA, and SmartPhone support. This is just a scratch on the surface and not to mention Windows 7 64Bit. The corporate world needs XP downgrade rights until everything can be put in place and especially giving corporate the time to come up with the money.

 

[Aphelion]

I still don't understand WHY people want to go back to The OLD OS while they can have a nice fast wds that they already paid for it.....
Maybe ...they are used to the OLD Xp ...i get it ...
But is it time to move on and learn some new better stuffs...?
"Stop wasting your money ...people ..."

XP is definitely more efficient, fast & stable running some applications. If you're using the applications in question to make a living... then you stay with what works.

Newer is not always better, witness... (short pause) VISTA!

Ap

 

[Ryan2320]

But from a home user point of view this makes no sense why would you buy a Windows 7 machine with a downgrade rights. When a home user buys a Windows 7 machine (typically 1 machine at a time) they are READY for Windows 7 and don’t need the downgrade rights.

I agree, having a home user downgrade to XP (To me, a waste of money) You have a wonderful up to date hardware, and you use an operating system that uses old hardware and probably won't work right away.

But with the business side, I really think they should be putting on some pressure and there application developers because XP is not going to last forever!

We can put pressure on them but are you going to pay the 10 million for the upgrade for the 100 propriety software we have and old hardware that needs an upgrade?? Last I checked Hardware and software is not free.

Home users don't understand the major changes we have to go through to put a new OS out. This is nothing like your home PC. We have to make everything work together and keep employees productive. I have to make sure the computer connects to a network and be secure, connect to unsecure networks as securely as possible, connect to trusted networks (tokens and keys), I have to make sure the machine can print to printers, copiers, fax machines, main frame printers, mid-range printers, make sure the machine can scan from network scanners, local scanners, make sure they have access to share drives, shared documents, collaboration, make sure they have access to corporate email, calendaring, voicemail, connection to DC, GC, KMS, LDAP, AD, make sure they can use their logon script (Windows XP very different than Windows 7), make sure they have VPN access, mobile computing, PDA, and SmartPhone support. This is just a scratch on the surface and not to mention Windows 7 64Bit. The corporate world needs XP downgrade rights until everything can be put in place and especially giving corporate the time to come up with the money.

Money is an issue I will agree with that, and so is time to implement all of the many things that business need to make employees work more productive and work with up to date software and hardware.

WindowsStar, do you think by 2014 your businesses or any other business will be off of XP?

By 2014, I hope so...

 

[WindowsStar]

WindowsStar, do you think by 2014 your businesses or any other business will be off of XP?

By 2014, I hope so...

We really have no choice. Q4 of this year we will be in full deployment of Windows 7. We hope to have all systems converted buy end of year 2014. We are hoping for a 7 to 9 year life for Windows 7 as we got with Windows XP.

BTW, we still have DOS, Windows for Workgroups, and Windows NT machines in our system. Mind you very few but some just could not be converted to XP. With the 7 rollout we are working hard to remove all legacy OS’s and have a true Windows 7 only environment

 

[Ryan2320]

WindowsStar, I wish you luck at your business in a full deployment of Windows 7.

 

[WindowsStar]

WindowsStar, I wish you luck at your business in a full deployment of Windows 7.

Thank you very much! I am sure it will be good, I have learned a lot here and I am sure I will be posting many many questions Q4 of 2010.

 

[Zen00]

It would probably be a smart idea for companies to standardize on one OS, and now is as good a time for that as any.

 

[Win7User512]

Now that I figured out how to make the install smaller to fit on my hand-me-down computers, I will never go back to XP, unless somehow my "fixed" copies of 7 get destroyed. So my personal opinion is that this is an excellent move for Microsoft (finally).

What do you do to achieve that?

 

[ema]

Maybe XP is faster but I love Windows 7.

 

[Senshi09]

In my point of view, a home user could be getting a new system because their old one is to old or completely out of memory.. but they don't really want the new windows, since the stuff they have (printers, scanners, faxes, etc) are all set for XP and probably at the time were made to be used with 2000-XP and wont work with vista or 7 so they downgrade their new machines so they cans till use the stuff and not have to worry bout going out and buying new scanners printers copiers whatever.

This is based off a printer/fax/copier/scanner my homie has for his XP machine, it wouldn't install on my Win7 machine at all. Me personally, i absolutely LOVE win7. its not complex and its easier to use then XP to me, so if i had to downgrade to xp again, id laugh and say No, fudge your face. Id rather go without my laptop then use XP again. plus everyone i know that has XP, all want 7 because they don't like the XP, they want better.

 

[HerrKaLeun]

Maybe XP is faster but I love Windows 7.

I'd think on a 512 MB single core PC XP is faster than W7.

On a 4-8 GB quadcore W7 will be faster since it takes advantage of modern technologies. I assume on a 2 GB dualcore W7 also will be faster, but migth be closer.

W7 also doesn't get much slower over time as XP does.