Can't add folder on network share to library
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That description doesn't make any sense to me, sorry mate.
What do you mean "pop into Media Centre" - what do you want to do there? You can't add mapped drives to libraries there...and what does that have to do with Media Centre at all?
I summarize, it is not possible to index UNC shares on Windows 7 64 Bit at this time, right? Otherwise, please post facts rather than more extended talk about other non-relevant issues.
It is a f***ing joke that in the year 2010, on Windows 7 running on an extremely powerful machine, connected to a SAN via Gigabit network, Windows 7 won't let me search my data any longer.
This sucks so badly, the Product Managers should be slapped the whole day. It is unbelievable how much time I wasted for searching a solution for this on the Internet, all you get are the useless libraries that you can't index.
OMG, I can't believe all this.
What do you mean "pop into Media Centre" - what do you want to do there? You can't add mapped drives to libraries there...and what does that have to do with Media Centre at all?
I summarize, it is not possible to index UNC shares on Windows 7 64 Bit at this time, right? Otherwise, please post facts rather than more extended talk about other non-relevant issues.
It is a f***ing joke that in the year 2010, on Windows 7 running on an extremely powerful machine, connected to a SAN via Gigabit network, Windows 7 won't let me search my data any longer.
This sucks so badly, the Product Managers should be slapped the whole day. It is unbelievable how much time I wasted for searching a solution for this on the Internet, all you get are the useless libraries that you can't index.
OMG, I can't believe all this.
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Forget Microsoft - try zorn software it's free
Don't hack the registry or do some other crazy stuff for this reason. Just take zorn and you will be happy - you don't have to ask why microsoft :devil: makes such stupid restrictions, it is like it is ...... may they think they can sell one more expensive win7 pro or whatever edition....
Don't hack the registry or do some other crazy stuff for this reason. Just take zorn and you will be happy - you don't have to ask why microsoft :devil: makes such stupid restrictions, it is like it is ...... may they think they can sell one more expensive win7 pro or whatever edition....
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This discussion is running in circles...the same side effects being discussed again and again without any new results.
I am using that Zorn library tool but that does neither help nor is it supposed to in my opinion. It is just a graphical tool to manage your libraries and create shortcuts but is in no way enabling the indexing of UNC drives.
The workaround to create a link to a share and add that to a library does not work for me. It doesn't matter if via Zorn or not, you don't need that tool to do it.
Can we please get to the point here:
Is it possible to index mapped UNC drives without setting them to "make available offline"? If so, how? Please post instructions that everyone can understand and try, do not post mysterious comments about "MediaCentre" or "that it worked for you". That doesn't help anyone.
Facts please, in the moment I am saying that it is NOT possible to index mapped UNC drives as per spec from Microsoft.
I am getting tired of this discussion.
I am using that Zorn library tool but that does neither help nor is it supposed to in my opinion. It is just a graphical tool to manage your libraries and create shortcuts but is in no way enabling the indexing of UNC drives.
The workaround to create a link to a share and add that to a library does not work for me. It doesn't matter if via Zorn or not, you don't need that tool to do it.
Can we please get to the point here:
Is it possible to index mapped UNC drives without setting them to "make available offline"? If so, how? Please post instructions that everyone can understand and try, do not post mysterious comments about "MediaCentre" or "that it worked for you". That doesn't help anyone.
Facts please, in the moment I am saying that it is NOT possible to index mapped UNC drives as per spec from Microsoft.
I am getting tired of this discussion.
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http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/4617-libraries-include-network-folder-2.html#post314141
...ok it's not indexed but at lest the contents show in the library
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still no answer
I do not understand, i have installed windows search 4.0 and indexed the shared drive, but i am still getting error message! no answer on net from i can see...
I refuse to create a simlink and make available offline and reg hack... all i want to do is install the windows search 4.0 and every computer with windows 7 can just add the share to the damn library!!
I do not understand, i have installed windows search 4.0 and indexed the shared drive, but i am still getting error message! no answer on net from i can see...
I refuse to create a simlink and make available offline and reg hack... all i want to do is install the windows search 4.0 and every computer with windows 7 can just add the share to the damn library!!
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@zerofailure: it doesn't work, can't work and won't work. Windows 7 is not able to index UNC drives, unless Microsoft would fix this as part of a Windows Update (which I don't believe will happen).
The workarounds mentioned in this thread do not work and most of the discussion is really off-topic.
To wrap it up: WINDOWS 7 CANNOT INDEX UNC DRIVES / MAPPED NETWORK SHARES
That's the situation.
The workarounds mentioned in this thread do not work and most of the discussion is really off-topic.
To wrap it up: WINDOWS 7 CANNOT INDEX UNC DRIVES / MAPPED NETWORK SHARES
That's the situation.
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There are 2 major problems here:
1) Windows Search 4.0 - This DID NOT WORK before Windows 7 (aka NT 6.1).
Why should it suddenly start working on Win7?
2) Windows 7 libraries are fundamentally flawed.
That would seem to be the end of the story until MS fix both these pieces of flawed software.
1) Windows Search 4.0 - This DID NOT WORK before Windows 7 (aka NT 6.1).
Why should it suddenly start working on Win7?
2) Windows 7 libraries are fundamentally flawed.
That would seem to be the end of the story until MS fix both these pieces of flawed software.
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@Peter: that's all totally wrong. Windows XP WAS able to index UNC drives, I have been using that for years. Read the complete thread please.
Please don't start another generic discussion here, we are over it.
As for libraries, I don't care about them and neither do they relate to this issue nor do they offer any benefits for an indexing solution.
Please don't start another generic discussion here, we are over it.
As for libraries, I don't care about them and neither do they relate to this issue nor do they offer any benefits for an indexing solution.
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I did NOT say Windows XP was unable to index UNC drives, what I said was Search 4.0 does not work properly. I always get my users to remove Search 4.0 on XP and their search problems mainly disappear!!!
Libraries - HELLOOOOO - the topic thread IS "Can't add folder on network share to library", so YOU may not care about them, but they are there in Windows 7 and they dont work properly (at least in the RC version of Win7).
Microsoft - FIX Win 7 Libraries so they DO work and DITCH Search 4.0. You never have been any good at search. Remember the "known file types" registry bug of a few years ago!
Libraries - HELLOOOOO - the topic thread IS "Can't add folder on network share to library", so YOU may not care about them, but they are there in Windows 7 and they dont work properly (at least in the RC version of Win7).
Microsoft - FIX Win 7 Libraries so they DO work and DITCH Search 4.0. You never have been any good at search. Remember the "known file types" registry bug of a few years ago!
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Windows Search 4.0 works properly (with the limitation of the mentioned UNC issues) and the libraries work properly. These are facts.
I don't even want to know why you are still using a RC version of Windows 7 when the final versions are out for ages. You're probably even violating licensing conditions.
If you didn't notice, this thread is mainly about the indexing of UNC drives and not the libraries. The addition of UNC drives to a library was the workaround being discussed in this thread.
I don't even want to know why you are still using a RC version of Windows 7 when the final versions are out for ages. You're probably even violating licensing conditions.
If you didn't notice, this thread is mainly about the indexing of UNC drives and not the libraries. The addition of UNC drives to a library was the workaround being discussed in this thread.
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Fulanke,
I don't think you can see the wood for the trees - step outside and look at it from a user's view:
1) You said: "Windows Search 4.0 works properly (with the limitation of the mentioned UNC issues)" - ie: IT HAS AT LEAST ONE FAULT!!! - and that is ignoring it's poor usability which is the problem for most of my users.
2) The thread is entitled "Can't add folder on network share to library" - so the thread IS ABOUT libraries. If libraries worked properly, this thread would not have been started.
I don't use RC anymore - I gave up trying to use Windows 7 on a day-to-day basis because of all the bugs in RC. I am waiting for SP1 at least. When things as basic as mapping network drives are troublesome, it shows there is still some way to go before Microsoft get it right, which they won't do unless they LISTEN to their users.
I don't think you can see the wood for the trees - step outside and look at it from a user's view:
1) You said: "Windows Search 4.0 works properly (with the limitation of the mentioned UNC issues)" - ie: IT HAS AT LEAST ONE FAULT!!! - and that is ignoring it's poor usability which is the problem for most of my users.
2) The thread is entitled "Can't add folder on network share to library" - so the thread IS ABOUT libraries. If libraries worked properly, this thread would not have been started.
I don't use RC anymore - I gave up trying to use Windows 7 on a day-to-day basis because of all the bugs in RC. I am waiting for SP1 at least. When things as basic as mapping network drives are troublesome, it shows there is still some way to go before Microsoft get it right, which they won't do unless they LISTEN to their users.
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Well...I already mentioned before: Windows Search 4.0 isn't Windows Search 4.0 - it primarily depends on the OPERATING SYSTEM it is running on. WDS 4.0 under XP is not WDS 4.0 under VISTA or 7 and is behaving in a totally different way! The OS is the issue and not so much WDS!
WDS under Windows XP had no issues with the indexing of UNC drives, as stated before, I have been using that for years, so it has NO FAULT in general but so does it under Windows 7 while Windows Vista does the job in combination with the UNCFAT extension.
The WDS code and the combination of Windows 7 is causing the problem. Only the developers of WDS / Windows 7 could comment where the UNC fault exists.
As for libraries, they do work for me and I've only been seeing them as a potential workaround for the WDS issue. There is no open problem with regards to the libraries for me otherwise.
Windows 7 in general, is just perfect. I don't know what mapped network drives problems you are talking about, I don't know them. I have around 10 mapped network drives to my NAS and haven't seen a single problem with that so far. It is reliable, fast and just works.
However, what's the point debating issues in a RC version then, this is a joke in my opinion. Test the final version, apply the updates and then you can make solid comments after your testing period.
WDS under Windows XP had no issues with the indexing of UNC drives, as stated before, I have been using that for years, so it has NO FAULT in general but so does it under Windows 7 while Windows Vista does the job in combination with the UNCFAT extension.
The WDS code and the combination of Windows 7 is causing the problem. Only the developers of WDS / Windows 7 could comment where the UNC fault exists.
As for libraries, they do work for me and I've only been seeing them as a potential workaround for the WDS issue. There is no open problem with regards to the libraries for me otherwise.
Windows 7 in general, is just perfect. I don't know what mapped network drives problems you are talking about, I don't know them. I have around 10 mapped network drives to my NAS and haven't seen a single problem with that so far. It is reliable, fast and just works.
However, what's the point debating issues in a RC version then, this is a joke in my opinion. Test the final version, apply the updates and then you can make solid comments after your testing period.
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Mmmm - Interesting - would the REAL Windows Search 4.0 please stand up and make yourself known.
So, Windows 7 OS IS the problem (at least the RC version was, the real release version seems a lot better (though I see it still has the domain joining bugs of Vista, but they are fairly easily resolved).
Time the WDS issue got fixed, it has been known about long enough.
Brainwashing is a wonderful thing - Windows 7 is not "just perfect" - see all the problems on the forum - it's good, I'll give you that, but NOT "just perfect" - Let's see how long before SP1 comes out and we read the release notes for that to see just how "perfect" the initial release was.
So, Windows 7 OS IS the problem (at least the RC version was, the real release version seems a lot better (though I see it still has the domain joining bugs of Vista, but they are fairly easily resolved).
Time the WDS issue got fixed, it has been known about long enough.
Brainwashing is a wonderful thing - Windows 7 is not "just perfect" - see all the problems on the forum - it's good, I'll give you that, but NOT "just perfect" - Let's see how long before SP1 comes out and we read the release notes for that to see just how "perfect" the initial release was.
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== This is how to search network files and index network files without having to store a copy on your own dam computer. ==
So after a long hard search i have found the answer to my own problem. (putting up with this for 3 months)
This patch allows you to add network files to the index without having to make them "always available offline".
It will add a tab in the Indexing Options menu called "Add UNC Location" this is where you add the path of the network folder.
UNCFATPHInstaller.msi
Download details: Windows Desktop Search: Add-in for Files on Microsoft Networks
To Add to Library
Zorn Software Blog Archive Win7 Library Tool - Simplicity is the Essence of Good Design
always available offline is not a real solution for network storage, you can't make 2TB available offline if you have a 200GB hard drive
So after a long hard search i have found the answer to my own problem. (putting up with this for 3 months)
This patch allows you to add network files to the index without having to make them "always available offline".
It will add a tab in the Indexing Options menu called "Add UNC Location" this is where you add the path of the network folder.
UNCFATPHInstaller.msi
Download details: Windows Desktop Search: Add-in for Files on Microsoft Networks
To Add to Library
Zorn Software Blog Archive Win7 Library Tool - Simplicity is the Essence of Good Design
always available offline is not a real solution for network storage, you can't make 2TB available offline if you have a 200GB hard drive
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Craigman,
I can't believe this - all this has been discussed before, the patch you are referring to is the outdated patch (dated 2008) for VISTA and not for Windows 7!
As discussed dozens of times, this patch does not help for Windows 7! It is installed on my private Windows 7 box as well as on my work machine, also all colleagues have installed it!
There is no new option "add UNC location", how often you may try it.
In fact, I was a bit excited this morning when I saw the email notification about your post but I was in for a rude awakening when I realized that you were referring to the crappy unsupported 2008s Vista patch again.
I can't believe this - all this has been discussed before, the patch you are referring to is the outdated patch (dated 2008) for VISTA and not for Windows 7!
As discussed dozens of times, this patch does not help for Windows 7! It is installed on my private Windows 7 box as well as on my work machine, also all colleagues have installed it!
There is no new option "add UNC location", how often you may try it.
In fact, I was a bit excited this morning when I saw the email notification about your post but I was in for a rude awakening when I realized that you were referring to the crappy unsupported 2008s Vista patch again.
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Forgive me if I'm not up to date on the issue being discussed, as I only skipped to the end to see if a solution had been found, but after a couple hours of googling around I just happened across a fix for my issue.
Trying to get my 7 client to add a network share to a library where the host is another Windows 7 box, all I had to do was set the drive to be indexed on the server end. Once the 7 "server" was set to index the drive, my 7 "client" could add its mapped network drive to a library. No desktop search clients or patches necessary.
Trying to get my 7 client to add a network share to a library where the host is another Windows 7 box, all I had to do was set the drive to be indexed on the server end. Once the 7 "server" was set to index the drive, my 7 "client" could add its mapped network drive to a library. No desktop search clients or patches necessary.
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I think these are not really news. You can have shares that are located on a different "server" (Windows 7 technically isn't a Server OS while it is just acting as one in this case) indexed, but this has been discussed before.
I think the majority of all home users do not run several PCs and shares on it but one PC and some sort of a NAS/SAN that is not using a Windows OS and where this approach doesn't help in any way.
Even if that worked, I certainly won't run 2 PCs at the same time just because I can get the folders indexed then. Then I could just copy all the 500 GB from my NAS to my local disk and index it from there, which would render the NAS useless.
Sorry, but this is just another episode in this never-ending thread. Will Microsoft ever notice this issue, comment on it or even fix it? Who is making the call?
I think the majority of all home users do not run several PCs and shares on it but one PC and some sort of a NAS/SAN that is not using a Windows OS and where this approach doesn't help in any way.
Even if that worked, I certainly won't run 2 PCs at the same time just because I can get the folders indexed then. Then I could just copy all the 500 GB from my NAS to my local disk and index it from there, which would render the NAS useless.
Sorry, but this is just another episode in this never-ending thread. Will Microsoft ever notice this issue, comment on it or even fix it? Who is making the call?
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