3 PC's on Win7 Ultimate - One not connecting b/c Username / password

HexusOdy

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If anyone can help me here I'd appreciate it in the extreme! I've spent 2 days trying to resolve this pretty much full time!!

I have 3 Windows 7 systems - An HTPC in my Lounge, and VAIO Laptop and a VAIO Desktop I use mainly as a Server.

Until 2 days ago the Server was on Vista but decided to upgrade for speed and so all machines were the same. So I installed the upgrade and it went as simply as the other machines did in the past.

So all 3 machines now have Win7 with the same network shares I had set up before. The Laptop with access the HTPC and Server shares, the Server will access the HTPC and Laptop shares but the HTPC will only access the laptop shares, not the server!

Every time I try to access the server from the HTPC it asks for a Username and Password (and it won't accept correct ones) but I have Password protected sharing turned off on all 3 machines, and the laptop gets in without a hitch.

All 3 machines have the same Group policies for security such as Guest account turned off, LAN authentication all match. Every policy is identical. I've tuned off the tick box in netplwiz for requiring user authentication and all those other tips.

I've put the same user accounts and passwords on all machines and it didn't make a difference to the HTPC accessing the Server, and the others all access each other fine without the same account on all of them.

I only have Windows firewall on the system I can't access and I've tried it while disabled and still no joy.


I can't see it being the server as the laptop connects without a hitch, what could be causing the HTPC to keep asking for a password that isn't required? I've even done a new install on the HTPC and I get the same thing!

Any help GREATLY appreciated!
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x32
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Windows 7 Ultimate x32
Are you using workgroups? Do all three have the same workgroup name?
 

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Systems 1 and 2: Windows 7 Enterprise x64, Wi...System 1: i7 [email protected], System 2: AMD FX-41...System 1: 8GB System 2: 8GBSystem 1: ATI FirePro V4800 System 2: Radeon ...
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell and Custom
OS
Systems 1 and 2: Windows 7 Enterprise x64, Win 8 Developer
CPU
System 1: i7 [email protected], System 2: AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6G
Motherboard
System 1:Dell 06NWYK System 2: ASUS M5A97 AM3+
Memory
System 1: 8GB System 2: 8GB
Graphics Card(s)
System 1: ATI FirePro V4800 System 2: Radeon HD 6850
Sound Card
System 1: onboard System 2: onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
System1: Viewsonic HDMI 24"
Screen Resolution
System 1: 1920x1080 System 2: 1920x1080
Hard Drives
System 1: Mirrored .5B drives System 2: Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
Case
System 1: Dell System 2: Cooler Master
Internet Speed
10 MBPS
Have you checked the time/date on all machines to make sure they are set correctly? You sometimes need to check the bios time also to make sure it's correct.

Did you upgrade from Vista or was it a clean installation of Windows 7?
 

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Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHzG.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2TGTX480
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built
OS
Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
CPU
Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz
Motherboard
Evga 780i FTW
Memory
G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T
Graphics Card(s)
GTX480
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D2
Monitor(s) Displays
HannsG
Screen Resolution
1680X1050
Hard Drives
GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD
PSU
ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular
Case
ThermalTake XaserV
Cooling
Xigmatek S1283
Keyboard
Logitech G15
Mouse
Logitech G9
Internet Speed
T1
Are you using workgroups? Do all three have the same workgroup name?

Yep, all 3 are in the default WORKGROUP. As I say 2 of them can see both ways, and the last 1 can see one way but as look would have it the one I can't access is the only one I really need!
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Ultimate x32
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Windows 7 Ultimate x32
Have you checked the time/date on all machines to make sure they are set correctly? You sometimes need to check the bios time also to make sure it's correct.

Did you upgrade from Vista or was it a clean installation of Windows 7?

The windows times are the same, I've checked them twice and they are all spot on. I haven't checked BIOS times but would that really make a difference? Anyway it can't be that. All 3 machines can access each other in all directions except HTPC to server.

The server that I cannot access was an upgrade from Vista Ultimate x32. It worked fine before that.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x32

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHzG.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2TGTX480
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built
OS
Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
CPU
Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz
Motherboard
Evga 780i FTW
Memory
G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T
Graphics Card(s)
GTX480
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D2
Monitor(s) Displays
HannsG
Screen Resolution
1680X1050
Hard Drives
GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD
PSU
ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular
Case
ThermalTake XaserV
Cooling
Xigmatek S1283
Keyboard
Logitech G15
Mouse
Logitech G9
Internet Speed
T1
I have just noticed that in Network and Sharing Centre on the Laptop and Server they both say they are connected to BeBox (my router) but on the HTPC it says Network instead of BeBox.

So connected to Network. Could that have a bearing? It still sees all the other systems so its obviously on the same network but could the name be an issue and if so how do I fix it?
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Ultimate x32
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Windows 7 Ultimate x32
You can change the name by clicking on the little house. Shouldn't make a difference though.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHzG.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2TGTX480
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built
OS
Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
CPU
Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz
Motherboard
Evga 780i FTW
Memory
G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T
Graphics Card(s)
GTX480
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D2
Monitor(s) Displays
HannsG
Screen Resolution
1680X1050
Hard Drives
GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD
PSU
ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular
Case
ThermalTake XaserV
Cooling
Xigmatek S1283
Keyboard
Logitech G15
Mouse
Logitech G9
Internet Speed
T1
Just discovered that even using HomeGroup which is supposed to make things fool proof it still asks for a username and password on anything I share in Homegroup from the server.

Surely anything in Homegroup should never ask for a password because you already joined the Homegroup with a password?
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x32
Are you using workgroups? Do all three have the same workgroup name?

Yep, all 3 are in the default WORKGROUP. As I say 2 of them can see both ways, and the last 1 can see one way but as look would have it the one I can't access is the only one I really need!

Did you hard code any ip addresses? Are all unique?
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Systems 1 and 2: Windows 7 Enterprise x64, Wi...System 1: i7 [email protected], System 2: AMD FX-41...System 1: 8GB System 2: 8GBSystem 1: ATI FirePro V4800 System 2: Radeon ...
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell and Custom
OS
Systems 1 and 2: Windows 7 Enterprise x64, Win 8 Developer
CPU
System 1: i7 [email protected], System 2: AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6G
Motherboard
System 1:Dell 06NWYK System 2: ASUS M5A97 AM3+
Memory
System 1: 8GB System 2: 8GB
Graphics Card(s)
System 1: ATI FirePro V4800 System 2: Radeon HD 6850
Sound Card
System 1: onboard System 2: onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
System1: Viewsonic HDMI 24"
Screen Resolution
System 1: 1920x1080 System 2: 1920x1080
Hard Drives
System 1: Mirrored .5B drives System 2: Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
Case
System 1: Dell System 2: Cooler Master
Internet Speed
10 MBPS
Resolved by doing a clean install on the server. Only way I could fix it.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x32
Upgrade installations can cause problems such as you are describing. It might be worth while to try a clean install from the upgrade CD.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1649-clean-install-windows-7-a.html

Resolved by doing a clean install on the server. Only way I could fix it.

Glad to hear that my suggestion worked for you. You are welcome for the help. :)

These types of problems are fairly typical for an upgrade installation.

By the way, the only Windows server software that works with Windows 7 Homegroups is Windows VAIL home server.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHzG.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2TGTX480
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built
OS
Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
CPU
Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz
Motherboard
Evga 780i FTW
Memory
G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T
Graphics Card(s)
GTX480
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D2
Monitor(s) Displays
HannsG
Screen Resolution
1680X1050
Hard Drives
GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD
PSU
ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular
Case
ThermalTake XaserV
Cooling
Xigmatek S1283
Keyboard
Logitech G15
Mouse
Logitech G9
Internet Speed
T1
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Upgrade installations can cause problems such as you are describing. It might be worth while to try a clean install from the upgrade CD.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1649-clean-install-windows-7-a.html

Resolved by doing a clean install on the server. Only way I could fix it.

Glad to hear that my suggestion worked for you. You are welcome for the help. :)

These types of problems are fairly typical for an upgrade installation.

By the way, the only Windows server software that works with Windows 7 Homegroups is Windows VAIL home server.

Cheers Chev.

When I say its a server its just a high end PC with lots and lots of storage that I use for backup and storage. :)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x32
Upgrade installations can cause problems such as you are describing. It might be worth while to try a clean install from the upgrade CD.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1649-clean-install-windows-7-a.html

Resolved by doing a clean install on the server. Only way I could fix it.

Glad to hear that my suggestion worked for you. You are welcome for the help. :)

These types of problems are fairly typical for an upgrade installation.

By the way, the only Windows server software that works with Windows 7 Homegroups is Windows VAIL home server.

Cheers Chev.

When I say its a server its just a high end PC with lots and lots of storage that I use for backup and storage. :)

I kind of figured that was the case, thats how my server is set up for the time being, you might try using Windows server VAIL, it's free for now anyway.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHzG.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2TGTX480
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built
OS
Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
CPU
Q9650-4.275GHz, E8600 4.5GHz, E6750-3.8GHz
Motherboard
Evga 780i FTW
Memory
G.Skill PC2 9600 1200Mhz 5 5 5 15 2T
Graphics Card(s)
GTX480
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D2
Monitor(s) Displays
HannsG
Screen Resolution
1680X1050
Hard Drives
GSkill Phoenix Pro 120GB SSD
PSU
ThermalTake Toughpower 1000Watt modular
Case
ThermalTake XaserV
Cooling
Xigmatek S1283
Keyboard
Logitech G15
Mouse
Logitech G9
Internet Speed
T1
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