PCI Express 3.0 to go final in November

[Airbot]

The PCI Special Interest Group (PCI SIG) says it expects to finalize the PCI Express (PCIe) 3.0 standard by November 2010. The 3.0 specification is due in the fourth quarter of 2010, but now we know it's slated for 60 days after the PCI SIG released version 0.9, which was posted in mid-August, according to EE Times. Furthermore, Intel is already gearing up to implement the new high-speed interconnection into its Sandy Bridge processors for servers.

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[Crispy]

Nice read, I wonder if Windows 8 will 128bit after all.

 

[Night Hawk]

This is only the initial startoff for PCIe 3.0. It will still take a few years for hardware manufacturers to work things out and come out with the new product lines to be seen.

As far as W8 even having a 128bit version that remains to be seen when the time comes. The 128bit referred to in the article is for programmers and support to be worked out with existing versions of Windows as far as updates for Windows and driver support for video cards.

I can imagine some gamers will be looking forward to the double bandwidth over 2.0 to be seen.

 

[Hondajt]

Whats the main advantage to this? I didn't think we were near the bandwith limit on PCIe 2.0, let alone 2.1 or 3.0. Then again, I should probably read the article, lol.

 

[Night Hawk]

The real benefits will be unlocking the vpu potentials even further as well as speeding processing time up considerably. There's still a lot of vpu power going to waste on most systems since the typical pc game and multimedia app doesn't fully tap everything.

For enhancements in HD graphics and other things this will be a large step in the progression for unleashing more of the raw power for various applications. Simply compare what you have now to some old AGP 4x 128gb card to get a better idea of what this will mean. You'll soon be saying" "I'm glad not to be stuck with that old stuff any longer!"

 

[Lemur]

It takes a while from being designated as a standard to being offered as a standard.

 

[Night Hawk]

USB 3.0 is available as a new standard as well without the 3.0 devices being widely seen at this time. That's one standard already here but nor made default while the PCIe 3.0 is still a couple of years off for that being introduced.

 

[Phone Man]

By the time PCIe 3.0 and USB 3.0 and SATAIII get fully implemented in the new chip sets and Windows 8 is released, I will be ready for a new system. Then there is LightPeak by Intel (fiber connection for peripherals).
Maybe 2-3 yrs

Jim

 

[Romulinx2]

Thanks, nice article and good news for us all.

 

[Crispy]

There is also technology that is in the making that using the speed of light to transfer data.

 

[Hondajt]

The real benefits will be unlocking the vpu potentials even further as well as speeding processing time up considerably. There's still a lot of vpu power going to waste on most systems since the typical pc game and multimedia app doesn't fully tap everything.

Okay, so you are saying they are adding more lanes for power transfer, and not just data transfer? (yeah, that's the simpleton explanation)

 

[Night Hawk]

Thanks, nice article and good news for us all.

Agreed! Airbot always stays on top of things as far as the latest!

The real benefits will be unlocking the vpu potentials even further as well as speeding processing time up considerably. There's still a lot of vpu power going to waste on most systems since the typical pc game and multimedia app doesn't fully tap everything.

Okay, so you are saying they are adding more lanes for power transfer, and not just data transfer? (yeah, that's the simpleton explanation)

Not power in the sense of electrical current but more potential for data streams. The term "processing power" would be seeing a boost with more pixel pipelines available with the upgraded standard.

As visuals in things like newer games released as well as further enhancements with video in general would be like comparing dvd and vcd formats to Blu Ray HD. The image quality as well as performance overall see the gains.

You may not notice it in everything. But for the latest and new things to come that already tend to have higher requirements the new standard will be felt.

 

[OneSerious]

USB 3.0 is available as a new standard as well without the 3.0 devices being widely seen at this time. That's one standard already here but nor made default while the PCIe 3.0 is still a couple of years off for that being introduced.

Hasn't USB 3.0 not been ready to rock since like 2007/8. However it's only starting to surface now. Surely PCI-E 3.0 is still a few years away.

 

[jimbo45]

Hi all
I think PCI express cards are like Dead Technology now.
(Note I'm referring to the plug in cards that are a bit thinner and longer than the older PCMCIA cards. PCI cards on a Mother board are a different issue BTW and I'm not sure what hardware is being referred to here -- plug in cards or expansion slots.)

As far as the plug in type are concerned -- (PCMCIA replacements) :

They started out a few years ago trying to address the shortfalls of the USB interface but with USB 3.0 about to surface who actually NEEDS yet another interface to a computer.

One of the reasons in spite of its shortcomings was that USB was a consistent COMMON interface that worked on nearly all computers from around 2000 onwards -- or for USB 1.0 even a year or two earlier.

USB 3.0 should put PCI express and the last vestiges of Firewire to bed now.

Compatability is the name of the game these days -- and USB seems the way to go.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[Hondajt]

Hi all
I think PCI express cards are like Dead Technology now. USB 3.0 should put PCI express and the last vestiges of Firewire to bed now.
Cheers
jimbo

I hope you are joking. PCIe is significantly faster/better than USB3.0. But that is besides the point. PCIe is for internal connections, like video cards, capture, etc. USB is for peripherals.

USB will NEVER replace PCIe. Two totally different products doing two totally different things.

 

[jimbo45]

Hi all
I think PCI express cards are like Dead Technology now. USB 3.0 should put PCI express and the last vestiges of Firewire to bed now.
Cheers
jimbo

I hope you are joking. PCIe is significantly faster/better than USB3.0. But that is besides the point. PCIe is for internal connections, like video cards, capture, etc. USB is for peripherals.

USB will NEVER replace PCIe. Two totally different products doing two totally different things.

Hi there
I DID say for the PCIe cards that you plugged in like you did for the old PCMCIA cards - for peripherals- the issue is now dead.

I deliberately EXCLUDED the mother board types of cards as these are very different hardware.

The problem with this type of discussion is that there are TWO types of very different hardware BOTH being called by the same (or very similar) names.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[Night Hawk]

Well PCI and PCIe are also two different things which is what you seem to be pointing to. PCI replaced ISA back in the 90s with the improved bus and has seen PCI video cards in use when a board only saw onboard and no AGP or PCIe slots present.

Newer forms of video card may trend more to what is seen with the technology used for SSDs, memory cards, and usb flash drives as far as the onboard memory is concerned. With the faster processing capabilities seen along with the faster memory speeds you also need a faster bus to work with. This is where 3.0 would come in to replace the present PCIe 2.0 standard.

Eventually PCIe will be replaced likely by a more modular form of plugin device rather then the analog components soldered to circuit card type device presently seen as things become more miniturized and digitlized over the older forms of analog display signals. VGA was replaced by HD. Eventually HD will be replaced by...? Newer techologies when those are developed!

 

[Crispy]

Take a look at this Graphic display resolutions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia we can go pretty high resolution but its not available to the general public atm because off marketing costs and so forth.

 

[Night Hawk]

3840x2160 for example? Resolutions that high are in use on larger projection screen tvs that can also be used as pc displays. That's where the higher figures go.

An old 17" lcd would have seen 1280x1024 while a 20" will use a 1920x1600. The 19" dual screens here are native at 1440x900 being a widescreen model. The costs are there with the new 50" lcd tvs.

Resolutions are determined mainly by the physical size of the viewable area on any screen. The larger the screen size the higher the default resolution. That keeps everything in the correct proportions when moving up in screen rather then seeing one desktop shortcut fill the entire screen! :shock:

 

[Hondajt]

I DID say for the PCIe cards that you plugged in like you did for the old PCMCIA cards - for peripherals- the issue is now dead.

Sorry. I didn't notice the PCIe "cards". That last word makes a big difference. Sorry about that. Didn't mean to sound rude, though I think it did. Hard to express online.