Homegroup Problem

cOLDiNSIDE · Jan 9, 2009

OK, just built 2 Windows 7 64-bit boxes with the 7000 beta build. One is a desktop, the other a laptop. I connect wirelessly with my laptop, create the network and tag it as a 'Home Network'. Connect over the LAN with the desktop. When I try to create a Homegroup from the laptop, it errors saying I must be part of a 'Home Network' to join/create a Homegroup. Just wondering if anyone else has run into this?

Mark · Jan 9, 2009

When you set both computers up at install did you select home user on both?

cOLDiNSIDE · Jan 9, 2009

Yes, but that doesn't really matter until I try to join the desktop, main issue is that I can't create a Homegroup from the laptop, nor join a Homegroup from the laptop because it thinks it's on something other than a Home Network, although it's not, at least it shows it set to Home Network.

limneos · Jan 9, 2009

If you have created a homegroup on your desktop, you won't be able to create another homegroup on the same network on your laptop. One PC must create the homegroup , and the others to join..

Also, see if you have any other network adapters installed on your system and what is their state...In different adapters, you might have different network types...home network on one adapter, public network on another etc...

cOLDiNSIDE · Jan 9, 2009

Understood. I did not create a Homegroup on the desktop, so at this point I have zero Homegroups. I did try to create one from the desktop after the one from the laptop failed, but it fails with the same message, weird. On the desktop I just have the LAN connection, that is setup as a Home network. The laptop has a LAN connection, but it has been disabled, only the wireless card is active as far as network connections go. Looks like I may have to reload both. I renamed the workgroup, I'm beginning to think there may be a bug that is related to changing the workgroup name and Homegroups.

darkassain · Jan 10, 2009

so are both setup as home networks

i have found (and others that vmware can be a issue too....)

also ive been poking around and i am also seeing that disabling IPv6 has the same behavior...

(thats interesting about the workgroup changes....
hmm ill try it myself after i get x64....

should be tommorrow
dont have it me to download a 3+gb iso and clean my computer....lol)

johngalt · Jan 10, 2009

DId you by chance updateyour NIC / Wireless NIC drivers?

cOLDiNSIDE · Jan 10, 2009

Yes, both are setup as Home Networks. No VMware installed on either. I did disable IPv6, I'll look at that and see if that has anything to do with it.

I have not updated any drivers, I am using what came with the Windows 7 load.

cOLDiNSIDE · Jan 10, 2009

SOB... After re-enabling IPv6, I can now create a home group. That doesn't make sense, but it fixed the issue at hand. Thanks!

limneos · Jan 10, 2009

I keep having homegroup issues too....

I also have a laptop and a desktop.
When I create a homegroup on the desktop, the laptop sees it, but it fails to connect with a timeout and an errorcode.

When I delete the desktop homegroup and create one on the laptop, my laptop creates it, but the desktop doesn't see it, and so it gives me the option to create another!

I'm searching on it right now...I'm decided to find a solution to this.

limneos · Jan 10, 2009

Ok...I'm getting somewhere....

My Desktop connects via CABLE to a wireless access point which is also connected via cable to a router.

The laptop connects wirelessly to the acces point and so on.

Now, my desktop's Home Network is named after the ROUTER name, e.g. LINKSYS-DSL but the laptop's home network is named after the access point's SSID!!! (e.g. LINKSYS-WIRELESS). So it seems they belong to different home networks (or workgroups, as they used to be called)

The problem is , that my desktop is connected on both access point and router..but I don't know how it gets the network name by the router's name/ssid. I never saw that before. Where does it find the SSID from, if it's connected via cable?

How can I put them in the same home network??!!! I'll forget all I know about networking...

linuzo · Jan 10, 2009

To change the workgroup all you need to do is right click on computer and go to properties. Then where you see your Windows Experience index, below that you will see workgroup and you can click change settings. A popup will appear and click on the box near the bottom it says "Change" then change the workgroup to the same as your PC or vice versa.

Glad to help.

I was able to setup homegroups and am listening to music right now and viewing it on my nice screen!!

darkassain · Jan 10, 2009

linuzo said:
To change the workgroup all you need to do is right click on computer and go to properties. Then where you see your Windows Experience index, below that you will see workgroup and you can click change settings. A popup will appear and click on the box near the bottom it says "Change" then change the workgroup to the same as your PC or vice versa.

Glad to help.

I was able to setup homegroups and am listening to music right now and viewing it on my nice screen!!

that is one sweet setup linuzo...

the routers name shouldnt matter unless you are connecting to a different router....
(if they have both have NAT)

your network card should have NDIS 6.0 (at least the wired one)

also you must have DHCP enabled as ive seen that it gets fuzzy with static ip's (or with ICS).....

johngalt · Jan 11, 2009

cOLDiNSIDE said:
SOB... After re-enabling IPv6, I can now create a home group. That doesn't make sense, but it fixed the issue at hand. Thanks!

Yes, it does actually. Break your homegroups, disable IPv6 on both machines and then create the new Home group and see if it works.

cazeault · Dec 23, 2009

but how to reactivate Ipv6 (mine went out by itself)

It is present in the liste with IPv4 etc... but it sys "not active"

cOLDiNSIDE said:
SOB... After re-enabling IPv6, I can now create a home group. That doesn't make sense, but it fixed the issue at hand. Thanks!

sidmouth · Dec 30, 2009

I have had similar problems, trying to "see" the homegroup on my main computer from my laptop. Have gone through all the hoops suggested by others. Eventually solved, based on the solution fopm Linzo above. My problem was that both my main and laptop computers had the same name, in my case "Dave-PC", but found when I changed my laptop computers name to "Laptop [right click on computer and go to properties, then where you see your Windows Experience index, and you can click change settings], I could now "see" and join the homegroup.

Hope this might work for others with the same problem

tabooky · May 12, 2010

Changing computer names worked for me. Seems each computer must have a unique name. I battled this for hours using some of the tips here to no avail, then noticed the names were identical. I changed the desktop name (which was the creator of the homegroup if that matters), and it worked. My notebook could finally see the homegroup and offered to join, no problems.

My dad had named both computers STAN-PC. I noticed that early on but on the desktop it was shown as lower case in the Windows System Info screen, while on the notebook it was all caps. But despite what was displayed on the screen both are really stored as caps, that is, computer names are not case sensitive. I noticed this when we mapped the network with our security software and it reported both computers in upper case.

Try unique computer names.

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