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mjf · Jul 26, 2015

ThrashZone said:
Nice build
Wire management could be better but a good starter system

Thanks for the feedback. Can you be a bit more specific about how wire management could be improved.
I didn't want to be too tight $ wise for my sons build but do you really think it is a starter system. The components excluding OS, Monitor, keyboard, GPU came to ~AU$1330 or US$970 from the lowest cost Australian supplier.
Here is the windows rating. It's a bit better than a "starter" system IMO.

Here are my current PC WEI (see system specs)

ThrashZone · Jul 26, 2015

Hi,
Starter meaning as you described
gpu upgrade and probably psu depending on the gpu chosen

Wiring well if you look at other builds wiring either goes vertically or horizontally most never in a diagonal and as much as humanly possible hidden except for the actual connections
That usually gives it a cleaner appearance or more orderly

Mobo and cpu are good to go and are a good base ram is also pretty good

I never really count or take notice to monitor/ keyboards/.. those are mandatory anyway.

linnemeyerhere · Jul 26, 2015

Here's my AMD rig in a 400R Corsair case it may give you some idea's for cable management, but each case/build has it's own issues and in the end the air flow in you build is just fine. I'll bet your son is digging the speed of the system.....nice build.

ThrashZone · Jul 27, 2015

More here,
http://www.sevenforums.com/pc-custo...173-show-us-your-rig-8-a-151.html#post3116526

mjf · Jul 28, 2015

You guys are definitely neater than me with wiring. You should have seen it before I tidied up a little.

The temps seem good particularly for a Haswell CPU. Inside case dust cleaning is always an issue for me. I buy these cans of compressed air but when you can find them they are quite expensive (2 reasonable cleans per can). I'd like a low cost anti static compressed air unit but can't locate them here.

ThrashZone · Jul 28, 2015

Hi,
I made some actual air filters for my new system,
Because the grid screens do not pick up micro fine dust
It was pretty easy to do using a real a/c filter and just flattening it out and taping it to the body and put the stock filter on top modern a/c filter material has a wire backer and is almost paper thin

My front filter I had to get a aluminum grid from Home depot so the filter material didn't get sucked into the fans
A little cut to size and taped the real filter material to it

I got some great advice from LaybackBear = Jack to also tape up all of the additional holes in the top and back of the case with multiple materials which the simplest was clear tape to keep my intakes and exhaust narrowed to where the actual fans were

So far it's working great

Micro fine dust is the killer it gets into everything.
Still experimenting on how long it takes before I need to clean or replace the filter material
I expect every month should be about right.

Lady Fitzgerald · Jul 28, 2015

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
I made some actual air filters for my new system,
Because the grid screens do not pick up micro fine dust
It was pretty easy to do using a real a/c filter and just flattening it out and taping it to the body and put the stock filter on top modern a/c filter material has a wire backer and is almost paper thin

My front filter I had to get a aluminum grid from Home depot so the filter material didn't get sucked into the fans
A little cut to size and taped the real filter material to it

I got some great advice from LaybackBear = Jack to also tape up all of the additional holes in the top and back of the case with multiple materials which the simplest was clear tape to keep my intakes and exhaust narrowed to where the actual fans were

So far it's working great
Micro fine dust is the killer it gets into everything.
Still experimenting on how long it takes before I need to clean or replace the filter material
I expect every month should be about right.

Pictures? You know it didn't happen unless we see pictures, right? Please keep us posted on this little experiment goes. I'm curious to see how well the dust gets filtered out and if airflow gets restricted or not.

ThrashZone · Jul 28, 2015

Oh yea the pictures

The logic is,
If you can easily see light not much restriction is happening
The front filter is for a radiator so all the fans "all 4 of them" push/ pull are sp140's so they are already static air design

The bottom filter well it was a radiator intake at first same as above except it was the evga 980 hybrid
Now I replaced the gpu with a asus 20th anniversary gold 980-P
So it now has a af140 blue on the bottom still a pure intake on full speed,
Blocked the parts not under the fan with thin cardboard as per Jack's wonderful idea :thumbsup:

Then just taped the filter material to it
The bottom of the case has small holes so no grid was needed

Lady Fitzgerald · Jul 28, 2015

Thanks, Mike! It makes a sense to me now. Have your temperatures changed any since you put in the paper? Please keep us posted on how well the filter keeps out the really fine stuff, how often it needs cleaning and/or changing, and if air flow restriction increases much as dust builds up. I've been toying around with ideas for a future custom built case and have though about using a pleated paper furnace filter on a bottom intake.

ThrashZone · Jul 28, 2015

Temps are good so says real temp utility never goes past 35c benchmarking I suppose that the corsair h110i gt doing it's thing

I do have a lot better exhaust than intakes but I feel better about it now with at least one on the bottom that is a true intake without going through a radiator

I kind of let the gpu do it's own thing now fan speed wise
I was cranking up the fan so it stays cool but I get better numbers if I leave it on auto
That way it gets to a operating temperature instead of staying to cool

Material wise for filters I started with an old speaker cloth but thought it was too thick ?
Then I just cut to the chase and used actual air filter material easy to find need a/c filters anyway for the house

mjf · Jul 29, 2015

I don't want to restrict air flow with additional filters. I think portable anti static electric air blowers (watching my words here) would be the way to go. Give the insides a dust out every month or so. I can't source them locally but they must exist for people who need to service systems on site.

Lady Fitzgerald · Jul 29, 2015

Try looking here. I use the DataVac electric duster myself and highly recommend it (don't let the name fool you; it's actually a very powerful blower). As long as you don't touch anything with the nozzle (and maybe not even if you do), you won't have to worry about ESD. It's powerful enough you don't really want to touch anything with the nozzle.

It may seem expensive but just divide the cost the duster by the cost of "canned air" times the amount of time a can lasts to determine how long it will take the duster to pay for itself. For me, it was a little over a year. I've had my duster over two years now and it's still going strong.

ThrashZone · Jul 29, 2015

Everyone needs to deal with dust the best way they can
I definitely knew I had a dust problem and chose to deal with it just like my a/c

Just a little more often for my computer
Dust on black objects stick out like a sore thumb so I'll take a few pic's in a couple months when most are shocked at how fast it collects and has the blow everything out

My black psu and wiring will speak for themselves

Lady Fitzgerald · Jul 29, 2015

Dust is a huge problem where I live. If I didn't filter the air my computer inhales, I would be able to harvest potatoes in the real estate that would accumulate inside. I have to clean the filters fairly frequently to avoid impeding airflow into my computer and frequently open it up and blow out the fine dust that gets through the filters.

One thing I found that reduces the build up of dust on the outside of my black computer is to wipe on a light coat of spray on furniture polish. I just spray a generic brand onto a paper towel and lightly wipe it across the outside surfaces of my case, then use a dry towel to remove any excess. The polish helps to repel the dust and gives the surface a satiny glow. Even the plastic surfaces look better after applying the polish. Dust doesn't accumulate on the air intake grills nearly as fast. The polish will also hide fine surface scratches. An application will generally work for a week or so. It's a pity I can't use the polish on my TV and monitor screens without risking wrecking the antiglare coating.

ThrashZone · Jul 29, 2015

Just recently I saw a awesome machine here and it was sitting on carpet

The dust was all over the bottom in the images they posted

I suggested lifting the machine up a foot or so but I doubt they will
Some people don't believe it's a big deal = I do with this machine

I remember after about 4 years of use which I did blow out the machine ever once in a while
But removed the cpu cooler fan and was shocked to see all of the stuff on the aluminum cooler
It was so thick it looked like a Velcro skin :shock:
Almost looked like it belonged there but I knew it didn't

Can you imagine how a radiator would look lol bugs.... like a car rad

Lady Fitzgerald · Jul 29, 2015

My first computer sat on a bare tile floor and it collected dust like it was gold. I got an el cheapo night stand from a thrift store to set the next one on and the difference was like night and day.

boyer90 · Aug 26, 2015

mjf said:
NEW i5 PC Build to upgrade 2nd PC

Motherboard AsRock H97M-Pro4
PSU Antec Antec Neo Eco 80+ Bronze 620W
CPU Intel i5 4590
CPU Cooler CoolerMaster Hyper D92
Thermal Paste Artic Silver 3.5gm
RAM GSkill Ripjaw-X 1600 16GB Kit
SSD Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB
HDD 1 WD Blue 1TB
HDD 2 WD Blue 1TB
Case Corsair CC400R
Speakers Logitech

I have the OS, GPU, monitor etc. The GPU is a GTX750. The user does a bit of gaming.

Does anything stand out as a bad choice? I'm not really happy using the Intel stock cooler. The case was the most uncertain choice.

if this case is compatiable with everything in your build, i would actually recommend this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= its about the same design, but half the price. im was actually really satisfied with mine

mjf · Aug 26, 2015

I completed the build a few weeks ago. The system won't ever use more than one graphics card so I went for a Corsair RM 550 80 plus Gold PSU. Also, The Coolermaster cpu cooler wasn't available so I went for the Noctua NH-U12S cooler. The PC is really quiet and performing well so far.
The only nuisance is the motherboard and CPU were dropped by the supplier pushing 1551 pin motherboards. So there will be a replacement problem if one fails during warranty.

ThrashZone · Aug 27, 2015

Hi,
We missed the pictures

Yea I guess we all run into that possibility products go on the endangered list way too soon

Lady Fitzgerald · Aug 27, 2015

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
I made some actual air filters for my new system,
Because the grid screens do not pick up micro fine dust
It was pretty easy to do using a real a/c filter and just flattening it out and taping it to the body and put the stock filter on top modern a/c filter material has a wire backer and is almost paper thin

My front filter I had to get a aluminum grid from Home depot so the filter material didn't get sucked into the fans
A little cut to size and taped the real filter material to it

I got some great advice from LaybackBear = Jack to also tape up all of the additional holes in the top and back of the case with multiple materials which the simplest was clear tape to keep my intakes and exhaust narrowed to where the actual fans were

So far it's working great
Micro fine dust is the killer it gets into everything.
Still experimenting on how long it takes before I need to clean or replace the filter material
I expect every month should be about right.

Any word on how the paper filters are doing? this inquiring mind wants to know.

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