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Windows 7: CleanMem, the only memory optimizer that really works !

04 Jul 2010   #1
hackerman1

W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
 
 
CleanMem, the only memory optimizer that really works !

hi !

from what i´ve learned, all those RAM-optimizers are just BS.
they delete the Prefetch-cache from memory which although gives you more memory, doesn´t improve the performance at all.

on the contrary, since they delete the Prefetch-cache, you actually lose performance....

the only program that really does something useful is CleanMem:

"Cleanmem is very small as it doesn't need to do much. First off Cleanmem doesn't clean the memory from the processes itself! It asks Windows to do that. When the program starts up it grabs a list of running processes. It then grabs the ID of each process and calls the Windows API EmptyWorkingSet for each processes, Cleanmem of course checks the ignore list and skips those processes. Then Windows cleans the process, and once all the processes have been cleaned Cleanmem closes itself.

Well that's the part that seems to freak some people out, if the memory is being cleaned then the process itself will suffer! the memory will be pushed to the hard drive! the world will end! And guess what they are wrong. So let me explain why. The API call only removes memory no longer being used by the process. It doesn't touch memory in use. Here is an example from a visual basic programming stand point"

more info about it: CleanMem v.1.5.0 | PcWinTech.comâ„¢
View Video Of How CleanMem Works: CleanMem V1.5 |

CleanMem works very well, i´ve used it for 2 years on XP Vista & W7.

it´s FREE, so try it....


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04 Jul 2010   #2
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hackerman1 View Post
hi !

from what i´ve learned, all those RAM-optimizers are just BS.
they delete the Prefetch-cache from memory which although gives you more memory, doesn´t improve the performance at all.

on the contrary, since they delete the "Prefetch-cache", you actually lose performance....

the only program that really does something useful is Cleanmem:

"Cleanmem is very small as it doesn't need to do much. First off Cleanmem doesn't clean the memory from the processes itself! It asks Windows to do that. When the program starts up it grabs a list of running processes. It then grabs the ID of each process and calls the Windows API EmptyWorkingSet for each processes, Cleanmem of course checks the ignore list and skips those processes. Then Windows cleans the process, and once all the processes have been cleaned Cleanmem closes itself.

Well that's the part that seems to freak some people out, if the memory is being cleaned then the process itself will suffer! the memory will be pushed to the hard drive! the world will end! And guess what they are wrong. So let me explain why. The API call only removes memory no longer being used by the process. It doesn't touch memory in use. Here is an example from a visual basic programming stand point"

more info about it: CleanMem v.1.5.0 | PcWinTech.comâ„¢
View Video Of How CleanMem Works: CleanMem V1.5 |

CleanMem works very well, i´ve used it for 2 years on XP Vista & W7.

it´s FREE, so try it....
Ooo, you've opened a can of worms! lol I've been through this with the elites here at Seven who consider it nothing more than snakeoil which it isn't and works really well. It uses the same Call that Windows uses for doing the very same thing.
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04 Jul 2010   #3
JonM33

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

I have 4GB RAM and never once had memory issues with Windows 7. Extra "memory cleaner" programs are unnecessary.
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04 Jul 2010   #4
hackerman1

W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
 
 

yes, but for those with less RAM...
a "Mini-PC" like fx. ASUS EEE has only 1GB RAM, and can be upgraded to 2GB.
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04 Jul 2010   #5
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hackerman1 View Post
yes, but for those with less RAM...
Exactly
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JonM33 View Post
I have 4GB RAM and never once had memory issues with Windows 7. Extra "memory cleaner" programs are unnecessary.
Yes, I agree for those who are able to boast about their 4GB of ram
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04 Jul 2010   #6
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

I have to ask. What does this achieve in the long run?
What benefit is there cleaning out the working sets?

I have just 1 GB on my Dell Mini running Windows 7 Ultimate, no memory problems.
And I never used such an application like this.
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05 Jul 2010   #7
Krispy1

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

ive actually seen in many cases from comparisons this makes thins worst in the long run
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06 Jul 2010   #8
Taliseian

Win 7 SP1
 
 

From my experience with W7, doing things like this only push stuff out of the swap file.

W7 handles memory much better than any previous version of Windows.

What's the point of having memory "free"....you want to use it....after all, you bought it.

W7 uses your memory to enhance system speed by keeping the most commonly used code in the fastest access possible...system memory.

If you run something and that process needs more memory, then it drops that code and you get your memory.

Also, don't believe in those "memory defrag" myths.......memory (like SSD Drives) doesn't need to be defragmented. Since there are no moving parts and any part of memory can be accessed quickly, defraging memory is useless.

In other words...the only memory "optimization" that you can do is get more memory for the system to use so it uses less of the page file.

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06 Jul 2010   #9
hackerman1

W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Taliseian View Post
From my experience with W7, doing things like this only push stuff out of the swap file.
no.
have you not read my first post above ?
i posted a description of how CleanMem works...

it does NOT delete prefetch-cache or move data to the swap-file.

"...push stuff out of the swap file."

i suppose you mean TO the swap-file ?
since the swap-file is on your harddisk, not in memory....
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06 Jul 2010   #10
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

Swap prefetch
A few operating systems use anticipatory paging, also called swap prefetch. These operating systems periodically attempt to guess which pages will soon be needed, and start loading them into RAM. There are various heuristics in use, such as "if a program references one virtual address which causes a page fault, perhaps the next few pages' worth of virtual address space will soon be used" and "if one big program just finished execution, leaving lots of free RAM, perhaps the user will return to using some of the programs that were recently paged out".

This is from wiki..... so I think what Taliseian was meaning was that this is the same thing:

Quote:
The API call only removes memory no longer being used by the process.
As such memory is being stored in the swap as info to Keep on the RAM. When it is taken out of the swap file, it can be written over in the RAM
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