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My mom's 10+ year old computer died the other day. The light indicator for the PSU lights up but the computer doesn't do anything. When I took a look inside I saw the processor fan was just caked with gunk, dust, etc. It looked like somebody threw mud at it.

Anyways, she has this stuff on her HDD that she was wanting to retrieve. I thought I could just take the HDD out of her computer and hook it into mine and get whatever data she wanted that way and burn it to disc. Is that possible? Or is there another way? My computer is a year old, btw, and runs Windows 7 Home Premium. Her computer was running windows xp sp2.

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Thanks.
 

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It would be a fairly simple thing to do. Due to the age, I assume it is a PATA drive, or IDE connection as it is referred te.

Do you have an external HDD enclosure?
 

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I thought I could just take the HDD out of her computer and hook it into mine and get whatever data she wanted that way and burn it to disc. Is that possible?

Yes, that's what I would do.... provided you can connect the hard drive to your system as LiquidSnak has suggested.

Also, If you hook up the drive, check to see that it has no viruses lurking ;)
 

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It would be a fairly simple thing to do. Due to the age, I assume it is a PATA drive, or IDE connection as it is referred te.

Do you have an external HDD enclosure?

I don't have an external HDD enclosure. I guess I should find a spot to lock it down in my tower. My tower is a NZXT guardian 921. I only have one HDD in it now so I'm assuming there's room for another.
 

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I thought I could just take the HDD out of her computer and hook it into mine and get whatever data she wanted that way and burn it to disc. Is that possible?

Yes, that's what I would do.... provided you can connect the hard drive to your system as LiquidSnak has suggested.

Also, If you hook up the drive, check to see that it has no viruses lurking ;)

Good advice, Sygnus. I usually overlook the small details in my quest to get to the final end. http://www.sevenforums.com/images/smilies/nerd.png
 

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If you don't have an external enclosure, you will likely have to tack it onto your MoBo. Do you have an available IDE cable? Plug it in, but make sure that it's set to slave on the jumper settings :)
 

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what mobo are you running?
 

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After you get it all hooked up, you will need to take ownership of the drive. The attached .zip file will help you out with that.

Then you are going to have to edit permissions:

Open the properties of the drive you want to change your permissions on, and go into advanced security settings, then change permissions. Check the circled box, and apply. Don't forget to add/edit yourself to the permissions list as having full control using the add or edit button.

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If you don't have an external enclosure, you will likely have to tack it onto your MoBo. Do you have an available IDE cable? Plug it in, but make sure that it's set to slave on the jumper settings :)

Ok, on the HDD it gives me a diagram for the settings, but they're for lower 32g and upper 32g and 32g clip? It's a samsung spinpoint sv4002H.

update: it's currently set for uppper 32g cable select. so I've changed that to the slave settings.
 

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@Dirty Elf, my mobo is an asus p6t se
 

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Can you get a picture of the drive label? I can't find a good one on the internet.
 

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I wouldn't go through the "take ownershp" step unless you find you need it. The simple approach is to hook up the drive, run a virus scan, move the files you need. Simple.

Not saying LiquidSnak's approach isn't good, it's just that you may not need it.
 

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i WOULD JUST HOOK THE HDD UP WITH OUT THE JUMPER AS A FREE DRIVE THEM SKIM THROUGH IT VIRUS CHECK INCLUDED NO NEED TO BE FUMBLING AROUND WITH SETTINGS BECAUSE YOU WILL DOOM YOU'RE MACHINE AS WELL IF THERE IS SOMETHING ON THERE BAD


BASIC STEPS IS TO REMOVE JUMPER USE IDE CABLE USE IT AS A FREE DRIVE BOOT WINDOWS THEN REQUEST A EXPLORE LOOK INTO THE DRIVE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND EVERYTHING YOU NEED THUS I DID THIS WITH MY OLD SYSTEM HOOKING UP A OLD HDD THEN REFORMATTING IT FOR USE WITH THE NEW SYSTEM

AFTER THOSE STEPS YOU SHOULD BE GOOD AND IT WILL MAKE SURE SOMETHING DOESNT HOP ON YOUR SYSTEM AND THATS IT DONE DEAL YOU AND MOM ARE HAPPY :cool:
 

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I wouldn't go through the "take ownershp" step unless you find you need it. The simple approach is to hook up the drive, run a virus scan, move the files you need. Simple.

Not saying LiquidSnak's approach isn't good, it's just that you may not need it.

Oh, so I can still get the stuff off the HDD just by plugging it in and screwing it down in my computer? But if I wanted to use the HDD for maybe running another OS or something then I can use LiquidSnak's method, right? Because that's what I had in mind once I finished getting the data off the HDD for my mom.
 

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Again, if you find you need to take ownership, i.e you get messages about permissions, than use LiquidSnak's solution, but If you get no messages, no need to do it.

As for wanting to use the drive as an external drive, that has nothing to do with it. And if you're going to put another OS on it, again, those permission wouldn't apply since you're wipping the drive anyway :)

It's really rather simple, remove the drive, hook to your machine, scan for virus, copy files. If you want use the drive for something else, wipe it, or keep it in tact.

Simple :)

Hope this clears things up.
 

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Can you get a picture of the drive label? I can't find a good one on the internet.

Here's a pic, Liquid. I think you'll be able to see the diagram ok.
 

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If you don't have an external enclosure, you will likely have to tack it onto your MoBo. Do you have an available IDE cable? Plug it in, but make sure that it's set to slave on the jumper settings :)
He can do you one better...he has a totaled computer full of spare parts.
In case his HDD is SATA (as I expect) he probably doesn't have to change any jumpers.
but it was good to remind the TS of the chance it could be necessary.
Such details are easily overlooked.

i WOULD JUST HOOK THE HDD UP WITH OUT THE JUMPER AS A FREE DRIVE
That largely depends on the drive in question...10 years ago you had to jumper correctly or it's a no go.

TS: connect the drive to the ide port and boot into BIOS if it's not being recognized, shut down and switch the jumper to the other setting depending on the position on the bus. If it's alone CS (cable select) might be a possibility as well.

-DG
Edit: now that the pic is up, go for the settings on the first (top) diagram
 

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Well, i I read my mobo manual (p6t se) and I got the impression I had an IDE cable, but after looking inside the tower I can't find one. My HDD is sata, as some others suggested. I guess I wasted everybody's time. I took some pictures in case I'm missing something. One is my mom's HDD, and then mine and then the wiring harness in my computer.
 

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You have a slot for it, but you just need the cable. The first picture, of the drive, on the left of jumper settings is the one you should use. (as a slave drive, it will not try to boot from it) Nice cable management, btw.

On your last attached picture (of the motherboard), your IDE slot is on the bottom, near the expansion slots.

Newegg.com - OKGEAR 18" IDE round cable,dual device,Clear Silver Model RC18IDES - Cables

You might not have to take ownership, as Sygnus said, but if you do, refer to my other post ;)
 

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