32-bit to 64-bit install

[pjd1952]

I have a 64-bit capable machine from everything I can find out (Intel Pentium D 945 CPU 3.2GHZ and an Abit I-45c MB). I originally installed the 32-bit Win 7 Beta. Subsequently, I downloaded the 64-bit RC install (7100.0.090421-1700_x64fre_client_en-us_retail_ultimate-grc1culxfrer_en_dvd.iso). I have tried to upgrade and I tried a new Custom install but it looks like I end up with Win 7 32-bit. Can anybody offer any help on this one?
Additionally, I seem to remember seeing Win 7000 on the desktop yet I see the install file begins with 7100; is my install not taking?- Paul D.

 

[zigzag3143]

pjd1952

First welcome to sevenforums. There are some friendly knowledgible people who are happy to help.

Could you tell us some more abt your system? Mfr, ram, how you did the install (upgrade or clean install), etc

Ken

 

[pjd1952]

My system is homemade: Abit i-45c MB (according to Abit it's 64-bit capable), 4 GB Ram (of course only 3.2 shows up under 32-bit), Pentium D (945) 3.2 GHz dual core CPU (according to Intel all Pentium D's are 64-bit capable) and an ATI Radeon x1300 display adapter. That pretty much says it all, I think.
Anyway, at install I originally picked the upgrade path which requires the OS to be running and afterwards I found that I was still at 32-bit...so, I ran the custom install after booting from the DVD and chose to install the OS to disk x, etc. After all is said and done I am still at 32-bit. Additionally, as stated above, I see 7000 on the desktop but I notice the install file starts with 7100 so I'm wondering what's going on.

 

[zigzag3143]

pjd1952

Should be 64 cap. Almost sounds like you have 2 versions in different places. Do you get a screen (at boot) that askes you to choose?
Ken

 

[pjd1952]

>> Do you get a screen (at boot)...

No. I boot up into and am running Win 7 Ultimate, ver. 6.1, build 7000. I have a windows folder which is where the aforementioned version runs from and I have a windows.old folder which is where the Custom (new) install of Win 7 RC moved my previous version.

Is there a build 7100?

 

[zigzag3143]

pjd1952

If you did a clean install woudn't it only have the windows folder and not window.old? Windows.old is created when you install into the same directory as the existing windows files setup moves to *.old. Did you have to re-install all your apps?

BTW win 7000 is gonna start timing out soon (I'm using it too). I believe the beginning shutdowns start July or august 1, 2009

 

[Robert Cartman]

I have some stupid questions. Is it possible to upgrade from 7201-32bit to 7201-64bit?
Does it worth? Will my 32bit programs run on 64bit system? Will I find easily drivers for my hardwares? Will it be faster?
I haven't ever tried 64bit but now I want. I only know about the memory handling difference but there must be more.

 

[pjd1952]

>> woudn't it only have the windows folder...

Not so. Since I installed onto the same drive as the original install lived it took it upon itself to make the move of the old directory without a query. I assume the thinking is that you could always go back if you needed to. As for my apps, yes the registry is brand new so I have to reinstall.

>> BTW win 7000 is gonna start timing out soon...

Exactly. I have the new build (7100), downloaded two weeks ago when I received the notice from MS, and a new product key that came with it, which is what I used at install, but I am looking at 7000. I'm kind of confused.

 

[pjd1952]

robertoszwald asked: >> Is it possible to upgrade from 7201-32bit to 7201-64bit?

That's exactly what this thread is about. I have, as yet, not been successful in going from x32 to x64. I am trying to work out the bugs and determine why it isn't happening. Stay tuned...

 

[myzr7]

I have a 64-bit capable machine from everything I can find out (Intel Pentium D 945 CPU 3.2GHZ and an Abit I-45c MB). I originally installed the 32-bit Win 7 Beta. Subsequently, I downloaded the 64-bit RC install (7100.0.090421-1700_x64fre_client_en-us_retail_ultimate-grc1culxfrer_en_dvd.iso). I have tried to upgrade and I tried a new Custom install but it looks like I end up with Win 7 32-bit. Can anybody offer any help on this one?
Additionally, I seem to remember seeing Win 7000 on the desktop yet I see the install file begins with 7100; is my install not taking?- Paul D.

Hi, try this tutorial and do a clean install of your x64 iso and see if that helps. Please pay close attention to the instructions and post back with results. Good luck. lm
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1649-clean-install-windows-7-a.html?ltr=C

 

[ccatlett1984]

you can not upgrade from 32bit to 64bit, you must do a clean install. I'd advise backing up your files and formatting the drive.

32bit apps run on 64bit windows, but for the most part you will need 64bit SIGNED drivers. I would check that all the hardware in your computer has 64bit drivers posted before upgrading. That way, you dont end up with a piece of hardware that doesnt work.

 

[pjd1952]

Thanx myzr7, I'll give it a try and report back later this evening. - PJD

 

[pjd1952]

Thanx ccatlett1984, I will try that (format). As far as destroying my machine...no worry, I am running XP-Pro on my 500GB SATA Drive and Win 7 on one of my IDE Drives. I select from the boot menu which one to run at boot-up. Additionally, at install, I disconnect the SATA drive so there are no unintended accidents. As far as drivers, again, CPU & MB are capable so that should get me started. My only other concern would be my graphics card (ATI Radeon x1300) and I can deal with that later if there is an issue. - PJD

 

[Robert Cartman]

you can not upgrade from 32bit to 64bit, you must do a clean install. I'd advise backing up your files and formatting the drive.

32bit apps run on 64bit windows, but for the most part you will need 64bit SIGNED drivers. I would check that all the hardware in your computer has 64bit drivers posted before upgrading. That way, you dont end up with a piece of hardware that doesnt work.

Thank you! If It is not possible to upgrade, i wouldn't try 64bit now. I'm too lazy to reinstall all my programs and settings. May be when the RTM is out I will do a clean install again and then I'll try it.

 

[myzr7]

Thanx ccatlett1984, I will try that (format). As far as destroying my machine...no worry, I am running XP-Pro on my 500GB SATA Drive and Win 7 on one of my IDE Drives. I select from the boot menu which one to run at boot-up. Additionally, at install, I disconnect the SATA drive so there are no unintended accidents. As far as drivers, again, CPU & MB are capable so that should get me started. My only other concern would be my graphics card (ATI Radeon x1300) and I can deal with that later if there is an issue. - PJD

mmm pdj, I am wondering do you have a install of that 7000 on your sata drive with xp pro? and you have been removing the sata to install 7100 on a differnt drive?maybe you are just booting to the sata drive and not seeing your new install?
Instead of removing your sata drive before you start write down the space used and free space on all the partitions that you can see xp and win 7 and the drive that you intend to install on. then when you get to the part for advanced drive instructions go with that as a guide as which partition to select(highlight) then if you delete that partition when the window blinks and comes back to format make sure that you have the proper drive or partition selected before you format. If at all unsure ask for more help after reading this post. good luck to you... lm

 

[pjd1952]

Thanks 'myzr7' & 'ccatlett1984' for your suggestions. I deleted the partition I was using for Win 7 and remade it and then formatted it. Nothing doing. Also recaptured Win 7 RC 7100 and burned a new install DVD. No difference.

As for your questions 'ccatlett1984'...when I boot my machine I hit F3 to get into the boot menu. I then select the drive I want to boot from, that is, I select the SATA Drive and boot to XP-Pro or select the IDE drive and boot to Win 7. There is no chance of what you are suggesting, I can see all the load directories in Win Explorer. Additionally, when I installed Win 7 with the SATA Drive out I then booted into it after the install with the SATA drive still out so there's no chance of what you're suggesting.

Here's the kicker, when I do the install it states that it is installing build 7000. My Bios tells me my I have an EM64T CPU and all my documentation tells me my MB is 64-bit capable. How am I installing build 7000 x32 from an ISO image named "7100.0.090421-1700_x64fre_client_en-us_retail_ultimate-grc1culxfrer_en_dvd.iso"? I have downloaded the image twice and burned 3 discs (2 from the first download and 1 from the second download) all with the same results. Is it possible that the download has been misnamed? I can't think of any other explanation. If my machine were incapable of loading the 64-bit version I would expect either an error or the inability of the desktop to load but the install is successful and the OS runs fine. I am being informed from the gitco that the install file is loading build 7000. So what gives?

 

[myzr7]

Did you download your iso from ms website? Is it downloaded to your 7000 install? If so have you tried burning it with this tutorial?

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/548-burn-disc-image-iso-img-file.html

so when you type in start / search winver and click on result it says 7000. I'm truly as stumped as you are lm

 

[pjd1952]

Yes, "winver" results in "Build 7000 ver.6.1". I posted over in the General Discussion group to see if anyone there had a clue. In the mean time, just for grins, I'm downloading the x86 (32-bit) image.

 

[myzr7]

Sounds like a good plan. Need something at this late date huh. How much longer will ms let us download the rc?

 

[pjd1952]

Okay, as I suspected, I downloaded the x32 RC from the MS site and I end up with Build7100 32-bit. I ran the WEI (haven't figured out out to paste it in here but I tadded it as an attachment) and it tells me my computer is 64-bit capable.

So, here's the mystery, why when I boot up to the "7100.0.090421-1700_x64fre_client_en-us_retail_ultimate-grc1culxfrer_en_dvd" DVD does the install screen tell me that it is installing Build7000? I've downloaded the image twice and used three different DVD burns. Is the image at the site misnamed?


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