7 for Dell 2350

[theforumboy]

I bought Dell Dimension 2350 Pc about 6 years ago and I've used windows xp pro now and I want to install windows 7 to my pc; but I have some questions in my mind below my questions and my system feature below it. There are also my computer's features link because I've not change any part of my pcs.

Windows 7 is better than windows xp? I think: of course
windows 7 works on My system with better performance than xp???????
Can I setup and use windows 7 on my system; but I will setup xp + 7. I think to use 10 harddisk for xp and 30 gb for 7

Documentation

My System= Dell Dimension 2350
-Intel® Pentium® 4 - 2.00 GHz
-384 MB DDR SDRAM (128+256) PC2100 (266-MHz) = I can upgrade this if necessary
-64 MB integrated Intel 3D Extreme Graphics
-40GB Ram = I'm think to use 10gb for xp and 10gb for 7 but if necessary I can use all( I will install xp for my family because I want to seperate os after family sent emails from my account that is hosted on outlook)

I'm waiting for each commment. Thank You!

 

[geeve420]

Not sure on some of your questions, but I can say that you will not be able to use screensavers or aero effects because of the video. I would try to push your Ram up in your system quite a bit more. I am running it on my old Dell Optiplex GX260 with these specs:

P4 2.6 Ghz
1GB Ram
40 GB HD
Geforce 6200 256 MB (Just upgraded from a 64 MB so I could use the aero effects)

I am using two hard drives, one with XP and one with 7. I just open the case and swap them them out if I need to go into XP. I did the same thing on my wifes.

I'm sure someone else can give you a better idea, I have seen it run on Computers like yours, but have no idea of the actual funtionality of it.

Geeve

 

[SquonkSC]

I bought Dell Dimension 2350 Pc about 6 years ago and I've used windows xp pro now and I want to install windows 7 to my pc; but I have some questions in my mind below my questions and my system feature below it. There are also my computer's features link because I've not change any part of my pcs.

Windows 7 is better than windows xp? I think: of course
windows 7 works on My system with better performance than xp???????
Can I setup and use windows 7 on my system; but I will setup xp + 7. I think to use 10 harddisk for xp and 30 gb for 7

Documentation

My System= Dell Dimension 2350
-Intel® Pentium® 4 - 2.00 GHz
-384 MB DDR SDRAM (128+256) PC2100 (266-MHz) = I can upgrade this if necessary
-64 MB integrated Intel 3D Extreme Graphics
-40GB Ram = I'm think to use 10gb for xp and 10gb for 7 but if necessary I can use all( I will install xp for my family because I want to seperate os after family sent emails from my account that is hosted on outlook)

I'm waiting for each commment. Thank You!

Hi,

I would strongly advise you not to install Windows 7.

Your machine is just not up to par, and I am sure you will regret it.

Greetz

 

[Muad Dib]

Memory type 184 pin DDR 2700. Expensive, older and slower memory.

Small IDE hard drive.

Video - no Aero for you.... 'nuff said...

Sloooowwww FSB.

Save your money and put it toward a new computer with Windows 7 pre-installed.

There is a forum where people share good buys they come across. It is a good place to find slick deals.

Another place to watch is the big brand outlet sites - Dell, HP, etc all have a variation. I have had good luck with outlet deals numerous times. Systems come with full factory warranty.

A low end $300-500 desktop will be better than what you could upgrade your Dim 2350 to. Might even be able to beat that price.

 

[ken9122]

I agree with Squonksc. You would be better off getting a new system with Win 7 than trying to upgrade your present system.

Ken

 

[Antman]

Are we making a valid case for XP remaining a viable option in some circumstances?

 

[SquonkSC]

Are we making a valid case for XP remaining a viable option in some circumstances?

Yes, I guess we are.

If Petrossa was still here we could see a teardrop running down his cheek.

 

[Antman]

Yes, I guess we are.

If Petrossa was still here we could see a teardrop running down his cheek.

Petrossa

 

[Muad Dib]

Are we making a valid case for XP remaining a viable option in some circumstances?

Yes and no. More a case of a Win7 upgrade NOT being a viable option for some systems on a cost/benefit basis.

If a person were to chose purchasing a Win7 license, for arguments sake, at $120 for a Home Premiuim upgrade and still require significant costs to upgrade an older system it might be time to retire the old horse.

Again for arguments sake:

184 Pin DDR Memory - $60-70
300 GB IDE HDD - $50
Video -a PCI based video card - why bother - but say $50

$280 - 290 total.....

My numbers are fast and loose but the cost/benefit is a loser, IMO, because it will still be an older slower system.

Add another $200 and wait for a nice desktop with Win7 pre-installed. Depending on the specs, memory could be added/upgraded later as well as a video card - if needed and as funds become available.

And as I mentioned I have seen some $300 desktop deals (no monitor) that would be better than ANY upgrade to a Dim 2350.

On the other hand, if the Win7 copy is free... well one could always experiment for the hell of it.

But to put any amount of $$$ into the Dim 2350 hardware upgrade would not be my idea of a good investment. JMO.

 

[Muad Dib]

Yes, I guess we are.

If Petrossa was still here we could see a teardrop running down his cheek.

Some (I will restrain from mentioning any name) would say "That is a fine candidate for Linux, just run Linux and you will never need that fancy stuff! If everyone would just run Linux we would have world peace!"

 

[kpo6969]

I bought Dell Dimension 2350 Pc about 6 years ago and I've used windows xp pro now and I want to install windows 7 to my pc; but I have some questions in my mind below my questions and my system feature below it. There are also my computer's features link because I've not change any part of my pcs.

Windows 7 is better than windows xp? I think: of course
windows 7 works on My system with better performance than xp???????
Can I setup and use windows 7 on my system; but I will setup xp + 7. I think to use 10 harddisk for xp and 30 gb for 7

Documentation

My System= Dell Dimension 2350
-Intel® Pentium® 4 - 2.00 GHz
-384 MB DDR SDRAM (128+256) PC2100 (266-MHz) = I can upgrade this if necessary
-64 MB integrated Intel 3D Extreme Graphics
-40GB Ram = I'm think to use 10gb for xp and 10gb for 7 but if necessary I can use all( I will install xp for my family because I want to seperate os after family sent emails from my account that is hosted on outlook)

I'm waiting for each commment. Thank You!

1GB ram max
Computer memory upgrades for Dell Dimension 2350 Series Desktop/PC from Crucial.com

pci video card only
Documentation

I wouldn't but can be done.

 

[KazeNoKoe23]

One of my girl friends has the same type of machine (except she has double the RAM), and we've tried putting Windows 7 on it. It's not possible unless you upgrade the RAM and install a video card. The integrated graphics for that brand of machine is too outdated, and only has drivers for XP. If 7 is installed on that machine as is, not only would it be painfully slow, but your graphics would be stuck on an extremely low resolution, with an 8 or 16-bit color rate.

 

[vidman1]

Windows 7 on a Dell 2350

My kids have a Dell 2350 and for FUN just to test Windows 7, I installed Windows 7 Ultimate onto it last night, the only problem I had was the video driver, once I got that by using Win2000 legacy driver it works great. PRoving once again WINDOWS 7 is able to be used on ANY machine, roll that up in your Apple and SMOKE it. Feel free to email me and I will explain any issues you have when you go to install it.

 

[vidman1]

Try again

One of my girl friends has the same type of machine (except she has double the RAM), and we've tried putting Windows 7 on it. It's not possible unless you upgrade the RAM and install a video card. The integrated graphics for that brand of machine is too outdated, and only has drivers for XP. If 7 is installed on that machine as is, not only would it be painfully slow, but your graphics would be stuck on an extremely low resolution, with an 8 or 16-bit color rate.

Trust me it works with integrated Intel 82845G video card, just install Legacy drivers and select manual install choose the Win2000 drivers and restart... see the pretty colors again...

 

[bobkn]

I bought Dell Dimension 2350 Pc about 6 years ago and I've used windows xp pro now and I want to install windows 7 to my pc; but I have some questions in my mind below my questions and my system feature below it. There are also my computer's features link because I've not change any part of my pcs.

Windows 7 is better than windows xp? I think: of course
windows 7 works on My system with better performance than xp???????
Can I setup and use windows 7 on my system; but I will setup xp + 7. I think to use 10 harddisk for xp and 30 gb for 7

Documentation

My System= Dell Dimension 2350
-Intel® Pentium® 4 - 2.00 GHz
-384 MB DDR SDRAM (128+256) PC2100 (266-MHz) = I can upgrade this if necessary
-64 MB integrated Intel 3D Extreme Graphics
-40GB Ram = I'm think to use 10gb for xp and 10gb for 7 but if necessary I can use all( I will install xp for my family because I want to seperate os after family sent emails from my account that is hosted on outlook)

I'm waiting for each commment. Thank You!

I recently volunteered to clean up a 2350 that belong to a friend-of-a-friend. (It had been afflicted with the Total Security scareware.) It was running XP, as Michael Dell intended.

Even after it was tidied up, the machine flogged the hard drive much too often. It was essentially frozen during those periods. It had only 256MB of RAM installed.

I maxed out the RAM with a 1GB (2X512MB) upgrade:

Newegg.com - Kingston ValueRAM 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR400AK2/1GR - Desktop Memory

($35.99, with free shipping). I had to clear the CMOS to get the machine to boot properly, but once that was done, the RAM passed a cycle of MemTest86+.

I'm not sure that I'd recommed putting Win7 on hardware that never even had full Vista support, but if you must do it, you'll be much happier if you go with the full 1GB of RAM.

The 40GB hard drive is also small by current standards. I didn't find whether the 2350 supports LBA48 drives (larger than 137GB), but it may.

If you really want to run Win7, the best upgrade would be a new PC. You can buy a new PC with Windows 7 pre-installed for around $400. (Example: Dell Inspiron 546, base model, without a monitor.)

 

[vidman1]

I bought Dell Dimension 2350 Pc about 6 years ago and I've used windows xp pro now and I want to install windows 7 to my pc; but I have some questions in my mind below my questions and my system feature below it. There are also my computer's features link because I've not change any part of my pcs.

Windows 7 is better than windows xp? I think: of course
windows 7 works on My system with better performance than xp???????
Can I setup and use windows 7 on my system; but I will setup xp + 7. I think to use 10 harddisk for xp and 30 gb for 7

Documentation

My System= Dell Dimension 2350
-Intel® Pentium® 4 - 2.00 GHz
-384 MB DDR SDRAM (128+256) PC2100 (266-MHz) = I can upgrade this if necessary
-64 MB integrated Intel 3D Extreme Graphics
-40GB Ram = I'm think to use 10gb for xp and 10gb for 7 but if necessary I can use all( I will install xp for my family because I want to seperate os after family sent emails from my account that is hosted on outlook)

I'm waiting for each commment. Thank You!

I recently volunteered to clean up a 2350 that belong to a friend-of-a-friend. (It had been afflicted with the Total Security scareware.) It was running XP, as Michael Dell intended.

Even after it was tidied up, the machine flogged the hard drive much too often. It was essentially frozen during those periods. It had only 256MB of RAM installed.

I maxed out the RAM with a 1GB (2X512MB) upgrade:

Newegg.com - Kingston ValueRAM 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR400AK2/1GR - Desktop Memory

($35.99, with free shipping). I had to clear the CMOS to get the machine to boot properly, but once that was done, the RAM passed a cycle of MemTest86+.

I'm not sure that I'd recommed putting Win7 on hardware that never even had full Vista support, but if you must do it, you'll be much happier if you go with the full 1GB of RAM.

The 40GB hard drive is also small by current standards. I didn't find whether the 2350 supports LBA48 drives (larger than 137GB), but it may.

If you really want to run Win7, the best upgrade would be a new PC. You can buy a new PC with Windows 7 pre-installed for around $400. (Example: Dell Inspiron 546, base model, without a monitor.)

The 2350 that I installed it in has 1gb ram and 2 500 GB Hard drives, like I said the WINDOWS 7 OS works speldidly on it, TEN times faster than XP and the only trick was finding the right driver for the on-board video. But if you dont have the option of Upgrading the computer put $60 bucks in and get a bigger HD, the minimum requirements is 16GB for WIN 7, but as we all know minimum is never ENOUGH... We have tried to install WIN 7 on a bunch of different machines and this OS is amazing it works, no driver (it finds a driver and it works, it simply works. JUst try it and work through it, its 10 times better than anything your running NOW.

 

[bagdave]

One of my girl friends has the same type of machine (except she has double the RAM), and we've tried putting Windows 7 on it. It's not possible unless you upgrade the RAM and install a video card. The integrated graphics for that brand of machine is too outdated, and only has drivers for XP. If 7 is installed on that machine as is, not only would it be painfully slow, but your graphics would be stuck on an extremely low resolution, with an 8 or 16-bit color rate.

Trust me it works with integrated Intel 82845G video card, just install Legacy drivers and select manual install choose the Win2000 drivers and restart... see the pretty colors again...

What is Legacy drivers I searched and get loads off websites offering to scan for new drivers and they all say i am upto date.

 

[bobkn]

The 2350 that I installed it in has 1gb ram and 2 500 GB Hard drives, like I said the WINDOWS 7 OS works speldidly on it, TEN times faster than XP and the only trick was finding the right driver for the on-board video. But if you dont have the option of Upgrading the computer put $60 bucks in and get a bigger HD, the minimum requirements is 16GB for WIN 7, but as we all know minimum is never ENOUGH... We have tried to install WIN 7 on a bunch of different machines and this OS is amazing it works, no driver (it finds a driver and it works, it simply works. JUst try it and work through it, its 10 times better than anything your running NOW.

I like Win7, but "TEN times faster than XP"? In which universe?

It's good to know that the system supports large (LBA48) drives. Or are you using an add-on drive controller card?

 

[bobtran]

Your machine will run Win7 just fine (I find it runs just as good or a little better than XP Pro did with the same hardware). Upgrade your ram as far as you can go (512 minimum and more is better, Good idea even if you choose to stick with XP). You can imitate the AREO interface using a product called "True Transparency" as your graphics card will not support native AREO.

I currently run it on a Dell C600. 1ghz PIII processor, 512 ram (max for this machine), 60 gb HDD (I would recommend a larger drive than 40gb if you can).

Find a thread on SevenForums about older machines here: http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/1657-windows-7-old-computers.html

 

[bagdave]

Dell Dimension 2350

I have also installed Windows 7 on my Desktop and as the previous person said the screen resolution go crazy but it can be sorted. I would say it is slightly faster than XP but more flexible todo things. Its my sons PC he is ten and syays its faster. Great extra features for parental control along with the family filterct key then activated it..

I used the same copy of windows 7 I used on my laptop and unticked the activate on internet connection. I did this to get the 30days Trial. As it worked I went and brought another copy and just changed the product key to activate it.

well worth doing better running machine.