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1.I have just noticed that my external hard drive has been forced to have its connector be bent by its own carrying case for one whole year. I have never noticed that the pocket in the case was there for the cable so I have always thought the case was supposed to be used with the connector plugged in. :doh: Is it safe to continue using this connector or should I get a replacement from Western Digital, the manufacturer? The port on the drive itself is fine, it is the connector that is bent and it still works. The only problem is that I would have to have the cable be shipped internationally from the US, (for anyone wondering, I always use international shipping legally) as WD drives don't sell in Korea. Also one side question: Could any harm have been done to the drive so far because of the case restricting airflow? I am supposed to not use the case when I actually am using the drive on my computer, right? (Don't worry about the data, I have another copy of the data on this drive.)
IMPORTANT Edit: Question 1 is now basically void as it is not the connector that is bent, but the port is bent instead. More info in post #6.

2.Also, I have a USB to Micro-USB cable and the outer insulation for the part of the cable right besides the USB plug is starting to come off from pulling too hard and shows a peek into what I assume are the shielding wires. So far, it is less than a millimeter wide so I can only see a bit of wire. Is it safe to continue using this cable as it is only exposing a very tiny bit of the shielding wires or should I get a replacement?

3.This last question is pretty simple. Do external hard drives and flash drives show SMART alerts like internal drives do?
 
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A simple rule of the thumb.

***If a cable in any fashion shows a problem; replace it.***

Can you show us exactly what case you have your hard drive in?
 

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It's a carrying case. I would never recommend using a hard drive while in the case.
You should always unplug the cables when they are not in use.

I have no control where you can or can not buy cables.

A damaged cable is a damaged cable.
Any more information on my part world be nothing but a guess. I understand your concern about different brand cables and the possibility of low quality.

You have 3 choices.

1. Don't replace the cables
2. Buy replacement locally
3. Buy the replacement using international shipping.

I can't make the choice for you.

If it was my choice in your position I would try to buy locally. My understanding is that in South Korea their are good manufactures of quality computing hardware. It would be nice if you could find a South Korean made cable.

A Chinese made cable sold in South Korea shouldn't be any worse that a Chinese made cable sold in the U.S.A.
 

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It's a carrying case. I would never recommend using a hard drive while in the case.
You should always unplug the cables when they are not in use.

I have no control where you can or can not buy cables.

A damaged cable is a damaged cable.
Any more information on my part world be nothing but a guess. I understand your concern about different brand cables and the possibility of low quality.

You have 3 choices.

1. Don't replace the cables
2. Buy replacement locally
3. Buy the replacement using international shipping.

I can't make the choice for you.

If it was my choice in your position I would try to buy locally. My understanding is that in South Korea their are good manufactures of quality computing hardware. It would be nice if you could find a South Korean made cable.

A Chinese made cable sold in South Korea shouldn't be any worse that a Chinese made cable sold in the U.S.A.

If only they still had Korean (not North of course) made cables though. If I ever have any problems, I will get a replacement cable. The cable is working fine and in the past I have had bent plugs on other cables correctly work until the device it is used for becomes obsolete. I have a backup of the drive anyway.

Also, the answer for the cable counts for the Micro USB cable too, right?

Is the reason why the case should not be used when connected to the computer because of ventilation?
(One note, the info for the replacement cable in the WD Store lists my model number as a WD My Passport Essential, even though it is really a original My Passport)

Also, can someone please answer my third question?
 

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Oh no. Forget everything I said about the external drive cable. Now I just noticed it actually is the center plastic part in the port of the external drive cable bending, not the cable itself. Well, this has become a completely different problem. Warranty would probably not even count for this as this is damage done by my mistakes. Well, should I just calm down and hope that it won't ever break off as it is bent only by less than a 1 degree angle?
 

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I can't see what you are seeing.
Never have your drive in a inclosed case without air circulation of any kind when in use.
Yes the drive when being used need to be able to cool. Air circulation is necessary.
Hard drives don't produce a lot of heat but it must have a way to dissipate the heat it does produce.
 

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I can't see what you are seeing.
Never have your drive in a inclosed case without air circulation of any kind when in use.
Yes the drive when being used need to be able to cool. Air circulation is necessary.
Hard drives don't produce a lot of heat but it must have a way to dissipate the heat it does produce.

Well, thankfully, I always did open it up enough so that air can get in when using it.

But now I get what you are saying so I will just use the case for storage purposes and take out the external drive from the case when actually using it.
 
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If I followed this correctly...

You have an external drive that you have transported in a carrying case.
You did not remove the USB cable when you put it in the case and the connector on the drive is bent at about 1 degree.

You also have another micro USB cable that has the outer insulation slightly torn and the shielding is exposed a little bit.

All pieces of equipment work.

Some things to think about:
You can always put the drive in a new enclosure.
To defray shipping costs find everything you need to replace and make it one order.
I think LayBack Bear gave wise advice. If the cable or connectors are damaged they should be replaced. He also said that he can't see the equipment nor can he decide for you.

I agree with what he said, but I'll tell you what I told my daughter in the Philippines (no local replacement parts and same $$$$ shipping concerns).
1) Backup your data (you have a backup so skip this)
2) See if costs are lower from Australia
3) Run the drive only when absolutely necessary on one USB connector (2nd one for power was chewed up by cat)
4) Replace the cable as soon as possible (she visits every the US year and friends visit her from all around the world)

The end of the story is that she just replaced the drive - the cable (forked power and data) cost nearly as much.
The really sad part of the story is that I purchased a Pay-as-you-go cell phone for about $15 USD and it had the exact cable needed - same rating and all. It was too late for her drive though, she wiped it and donated it.

The moral of the story is - USB cables are, for the most part, universal. If you have another cable, check the ratings and if they are equal then use that when you need to travel. You might get lucky like I did and find an unrelated piece of equipment that has a cable you can use for less money than a new cable + shipping. The catch is the cable ratings.

The micro USB cable doesn't sound too bad and electrical tape might extend it's usefulness. I really can't tell from here. If it's been pulled by the cable and not the head, then there might be damage in the head.

Some external drives report SMART, it really depends on the enclosure. The drive inside is a drive, but the SMART data has to get through the enclosure connector.

Best of luck.
 

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(This paragraph is about the Micro USB cable for my tablet) Well the way the insulation got kind of torn is because I accidentally pulled on my tablet while I was charging and somehow I was unlucky that the insulation on the cable connected to the head, not the connector, came off a tiny bit that if I bend the cable in one direction, what I assume are the shielding wires are seen. I may be able to post a picture later this week when I have the time to try and get a good picture.

(This part is about the external drive)Also, by the way, it is the plastic part in the center of the port that is bent, not the connector now that I looked more carefully. The port is a Micro-USB 3.0, you know, the one on the Samsung Galaxy Note 3, which has an extra part next to the normal Micro-USB part for USB 3.0 speeds. Maybe if I am gentle with the connector, it won't bend more as it is still not even 1 degrees bent, it is barely visible unless I see it from an lower angle. It definitely is bent though as the connector on the cable is not bent, but when the connector is plugged in, it does bend in an angle, but the port is barely bent.
 

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I thought I would throw this little tidbit out there too.

Do not try to bend it back - doing that might break it and make it unusable.
Please post a picture when you get a chance.

I can't think of anything else.
 

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I thought I would throw this little tidbit out there too.

Do not try to bend it back - doing that might break it and make it unusable.
Please post a picture when you get a chance.

I can't think of anything else.

Thanks but I already know. ;) Almost everything I have tried to fix physically has broken even more in the past, so these days I'm too scared to try and fix anything other than on the software side of computers. That's why I don't want to have get a new enclosure if possible.

Also, two side questions,
1. Do utilities like CrystalDiskInfo work on all external drives that support SMART?
2. Is running CHKDSK every month to sometimes every week overkill?(For my system drive, not external)
 

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I know very little about CrystalDisk because I don't use it.

I don't run CHKDSK unless I have a problem.

Their will be other that do it different so I will leave you in the hands of Slartybart.
 

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Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Pictures of the hard drive problem:
IMG_20150118_170220.jpg
IMG_20150118_170406.jpg

If you look closely at the exposed part of the connector in the second picture, you can see that the connector is not bent, but the port is pushing it up. I didn't take a picture of the port because the bend is barely noticeable on the port itself anyway.

Also, I could not take a picture of the Micro-USB picture because it was too hard to take a picture of it that showed the shielding wire with it focused correctly.
 

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Windows 7 Professional 32-bit/Windows 8 64-bi...Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600/Intel Core i7 4790/In...2GB/16GB/4GBIntel G33/G31 Express(Vostro)/NVIDIA GeForce ...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Vostro 400/Dell XPS 8700(Slightly Customized for me by Dell)/Toshiba Satellite T135
OS
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit/Windows 8 64-bit/Win7 Pro64-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600/Intel Core i7 4790/Intel Pentium
Memory
2GB/16GB/4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel G33/G31 Express(Vostro)/NVIDIA GeForce GTX 745(XPS)
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 2009m(Vostro)/ViewSonic VX2250wm-LED(XPS)
Screen Resolution
1600x900(Vostro)/1920x1080(XPS)
Hard Drives
Seagate ST3160815AS(Vostro)/Western Digital Blue(Satellite)
External:
Western Digital My Passport 0748
Samsung HM121HC
Keyboard
Dell L100)(Vostro)/Dell KB2133p(XPS)
Mouse
Dell M-UAV-DEL8(XPS)
Internet Speed
100 Mbit/s(Only when IPTV is plugged out)
Antivirus
Avast, Malwarebytes PRO
Browser
Internet Explorer 11
Other Info
Note: Names with slashes between two different parts mean that the left is my old desktop and the right is my old laptop and the middle is my new desktop.(Unless specified)
Ping is horrible for servers overseas in US and Europe.
New laptop:LG Gram(Not available in US) Processor:Intel Core i3 4th Gen Ultra Low Power RAM:4GB Hard Drive:SK Hynix OEM MSATA or M.2 Graphics:Intel HD
If it's still working, I wouldn't worry about it. I bent the USB cable end on some laptop portable speakers I have (bad design makes it easy to mistake the cable end for the clamp) and they have been working fine for the past couple, three years. If it's really bugging the snot out of you, you could try using a bad or otherwise expendable USB cable to bend it back; just be prepared to replace the external drive if you do break it (otherwise, don't try it).
 
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Win 7 Ultimate 64 bitIntel i7-3930KKingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modul...MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
Well I won't try to bend it back because of what I said in post 12. So, the only solution would be to replace the drive and replacing the cable would be useless. But I'm just going to agree with Jeannie that I shouldn't worry about it.
 

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Windows 7 Professional 32-bit/Windows 8 64-bi...Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600/Intel Core i7 4790/In...2GB/16GB/4GBIntel G33/G31 Express(Vostro)/NVIDIA GeForce ...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Vostro 400/Dell XPS 8700(Slightly Customized for me by Dell)/Toshiba Satellite T135
OS
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit/Windows 8 64-bit/Win7 Pro64-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600/Intel Core i7 4790/Intel Pentium
Memory
2GB/16GB/4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel G33/G31 Express(Vostro)/NVIDIA GeForce GTX 745(XPS)
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 2009m(Vostro)/ViewSonic VX2250wm-LED(XPS)
Screen Resolution
1600x900(Vostro)/1920x1080(XPS)
Hard Drives
Seagate ST3160815AS(Vostro)/Western Digital Blue(Satellite)
External:
Western Digital My Passport 0748
Samsung HM121HC
Keyboard
Dell L100)(Vostro)/Dell KB2133p(XPS)
Mouse
Dell M-UAV-DEL8(XPS)
Internet Speed
100 Mbit/s(Only when IPTV is plugged out)
Antivirus
Avast, Malwarebytes PRO
Browser
Internet Explorer 11
Other Info
Note: Names with slashes between two different parts mean that the left is my old desktop and the right is my old laptop and the middle is my new desktop.(Unless specified)
Ping is horrible for servers overseas in US and Europe.
New laptop:LG Gram(Not available in US) Processor:Intel Core i3 4th Gen Ultra Low Power RAM:4GB Hard Drive:SK Hynix OEM MSATA or M.2 Graphics:Intel HD
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