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Hi All!

System Drive c:\Program Data\Application Data\...

I don't know how deep this directory goes but the snapshot should give you an idea of what's going on here.

Is this normal?

Other than the Hex numbers, they appear to be replications, ad infinitum...

TIA!
 

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c:\Program Data\Application Data\...

I don't find anything like that. I have no C:\Program Data that I can find.
 

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It is because you altered permissions.
A thousand times I've said not to mess with them.
 

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Well, Hopalong X, what do you think about me deleting that directory? After a full backup, of course?

It looks to me that the sub-directories go on forever! Weird, huh?

I've run chkdsk and it comes up with no errors on that drive.

I don't know what to make of it. :confused:
 

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@logicearth

If I changed permissions, I'm not aware of it.

What I have done, is move User's folder to another drive; perhaps I inadvertently changed permissions then?

The question remains; what do I do with this directory? Ignore it? Delete it? Change permissions back to original? If so, how?

This comes from one of the links you suggested:
Junction points can be identified as follows :

  • They have the FILE_ATTRIBUTE_REPARSE_POINT, FILE_ATTRIBUTE_HIDDEN, and FILE_ATTRIBUTE_SYSTEM file attributes set.
  • They also have their access control lists (ACLs) set to deny read access to everyone.
Applications that call out a specific path can traverse these junction points if they have the required permissions. However, attempts to enumerate the contents of the junction points will result in failures. It is important that backup applications do not traverse these junction points, or attempt to backup data under them, for two reasons:

  • Doing so can cause the backup application to back up the same data more than once.
  • It can also lead to cycles (circular references).
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Since Acronis is showing up in all those sub-directories, could it be a source of the situation?

TIA
 

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It is a Junction one that is set to DENY, EVERYONE from reading the contents to prevent this exact thing. I am assuming you moved the whole Users folder? That is the same thing as changing permissions.
 

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Yep- I'm afraid so.
Not certain about this, but i think it's in one of the tutorials on this site?

My goal was to eliminate as much writing and clutter on my new SSD as possible; maybe I opened a can of worms.

Please don't tell me I should re-install Win7 :cry:
 

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You can either reset the required permission which is "EVERYONE, DENY List folder / read data"
Or if you are sure none of your applications use the older paths, the junctions can be deleted.
 

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OK- I changed the permissions to what you said. Nothing broken as far as I can tell.

All the directories with the little 'shortcut' icon- are they Junctions? Should they all be changed, too?

As it is, I have access to them.
 

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c:\Program Data\Application Data\...

I don't find anything like that. I have no C:\Program Data that I can find.

Hoppy, you should have that folder, if you choose to "Show hidden files and folders."
 

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...Or if you are sure none of your applications use the older paths, the junctions can be deleted.
I did that during the Win 7 beta period with no ill effects.

NO GUARANTEES
, though... :)

(Being emphatic, just in case.):zip:
 

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I did that during the Win 7 beta period with no ill effects.

NO GUARANTEES
, though... :)

(Being emphatic, just in case.):zip:

Well if you did it before installing any Adobe Creative Suite 4 program it would broke [sic] and be forever broke.
I believe it was fixed in CS5 however.
 

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Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB, Seagate 1TB Desktop Hybrid HDD, 2x Western Digital 4TB Green HDD
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875W Some Dell PSU <.<
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Custom Liquid Cooling (EK CPU & GPU blocks) dual EK 480RAD
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That's why I marked the idea "As Is". ;)
 

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Screen Resolution
Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon
Hard Drives
Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
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Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data Backup)
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Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W
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Main - Thermaltake Element G; 2nd - NZXT something or other
Cooling
Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems
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Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard
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Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse
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20Mbps Time-Warner Cable
FYI:

I changed the permissions to that folder and plan on doing the same to the others as well.
So far, everything seems to be working OK.

I confess- I'm too afraid :eek: to delete the folder as I have a lot of older programs that might be depending on this; the last thing I want to be faced with is a re-install.

Well, there you have it; I guess the best thing to do is to leave well enough alone, as has been preached, even by me, for so many years...

Thanks for everyone's help on this matter.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
OEM - Me
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1600T
Motherboard
GigaByte GZ-990FXA-UD3
Memory
16GB PC3-10700 (1342MHz)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon 5770 HD (x2) CrossFire
Sound Card
On-board RealTek chipset
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Hanns-G 1920x1080 Monitors
Screen Resolution
3x Hanns-G 1920x1080 Monitors
Hard Drives
Intel 25-V SSD 40GB: 218 MB/s AT: 0.1ms
Intel X-25M SSD 80GB: 230MB/s AT: 0.1ms
Seagate 750GB: 133 MB/s AT: 13ms (perpendicular storage)
Buffalo HD-PCTU3 1TB External drive
PSU
OCZ Stealth X Stream 750W
Case
Cheap (unknown)
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
HP USB
Mouse
LogiTech USB
Internet Speed
1.5 Mbps - Slow - At the tail-end of a rural network
Other Info
Printer: Epson Stylus C-84
Scanner: HP 3500C Flatbed
DVD-RW: Plextor
DVD-ROM: Unknown
WEI: 7.4
Next time when moving the Users directory use Robocopy or another that supports transferring the ACLs along with the files/folders.
For example:

Code:
robocopy C:\Users D:\Users /E /COPYALL /SL /MT
Untested...
 

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Motherboard
Alienware Aurora-R4 x79
Memory
4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
Sound Card
SteelSeries Siberia Elite
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp U3011
Screen Resolution
2560x1600
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB, Seagate 1TB Desktop Hybrid HDD, 2x Western Digital 4TB Green HDD
PSU
875W Some Dell PSU <.<
Case
Alienware Aurora ALX
Cooling
Custom Liquid Cooling (EK CPU & GPU blocks) dual EK 480RAD
Keyboard
Logitech G710+ Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios (50 mbps average)
Other Info
Server: Intel NUC D54250WYK: i5-4250U, 16GB, 256 GB mSATA, Windows Server 2012 R2
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