A look ahead: 2012 is Microsoft's turning point

Microsoft is replete with 'turning points'.
The 'cloud' is fine for installs / updates. I'm keeping my data with me thank you. If I can't I'm not running it.

Speaking of clouds, I hope the fan in the men's room doesn't konk out for the chilli cook-off.
 

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I hate the smell of friggin corn chip butt breath snacks.
Indeed, but ...

Or PC Settings instead of Control Panel.....

Why aggravate the 100s of millions of existing users, who already know about the "Control Panel", to try and gain a few million new users?

If MS make enough pointless idiotic marketing changes, their user base may decide to swap to:

  • Linux (highly customisable and free).
  • Mac (supposedly super easy to use).
"I'm going to have to retrain my idiotic staff at a ridiculous cost to my business. I might as well swap to Linux and save myself the cost of the MS licenses."
 

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Realtek?
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WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
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Cooler Master
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2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
Or PC Settings instead of Control Panel.....

Why aggravate the 100s of millions of existing users, who already know about the "Control Panel", to try and gain a few million new users?

If MS make enough pointless idiotic marketing changes, their user base may decide to swap to:

  • Linux (highly customisable and free).
  • Mac (supposedly super easy to use).
"I'm going to have to retrain my idiotic staff at a ridiculous cost to my business. I might as well swap to Linux and save myself the cost of the MS licenses."
Why aggravate hundreds of millions of users with new Windows operating systems every few years? Things change. Terminology changes.

If an IT person were to use linux, it would need to be ubuntu or otherwise there would be software fragmentation like android.

And the mac os, from what I've seen, has taken ipad-like features for the macbooks, imacs, and other replicated idevice. Things change.
 

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ASUS
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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M4A78LT-M LE
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SuperTalent 4gb DDR3
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ATI Radeon 3000HD
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1440*900
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Re-modded Dell Dimension 4550
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Vantec 92mm Tornado x2
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It looks pretty.
And Metro is going to be everywhere
God save the PC, please.

Linux. It's the only worthy alternative to Windows on a PC. I'm actually converting to Linux as my primary OS. Even my phone and tablet (Kindle Fire) use Linux (in the form of Android).
 

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iBuyPower Chimera X58
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Windows 8 Pro x64
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Intel Core i7 920
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Asus P6T Deluxe V2
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12GB (2GB x6) Triple Channel DDR3 1333 MHz
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ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB GDDR5
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Integrated Digital HD 7.1 Surround Sound
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24.6-inch ASUS VW246H 20000:1 Contrast, 2 ms response time,
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1 TB 7200 RPM SATA II 3 GBps 16MB cache
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NZXT 800W Gaming Series
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Guardian Inferno (Custom Painted NZXT Guardian 921)
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Thermaltake V1 Fan Cooling System OC Proof
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Razer Lycosa
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iBuyPower Ergonomical Internet Mouse
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And Metro is going to be everywhere
God save the PC, please.

Linux. It's the only worthy alternative to Windows on a PC. I'm actually converting to Linux as my primary OS. Even my phone and tablet (Kindle Fire) use Linux (in the form of Android).


Hi there
the main trouble with Linux as a desktop (or workstation / laptop ) OS is that there are so many different distributions often requiring different methods of software installs / updates etc.

I agree as a server Linux is first class but as a desktop OS the problems of updating / installing software then it won't fly for anybody other than individuals.

I know a few corporations have tried Linux as a workstation OS -- but it can't compete with Windows in a corporate environment as a desktop OS.

Macbooks can offer another client workstation alternative but Windows still has it by MILES for corporate client laptops / workstations.

As for Android -- It's a TEXTBOOK case of how NOT to write an OS. It's held together by "pieces of string" and any sort of QC on available applications ("apps") seem to be totally non-existent.

My next smart phone will NOT be an android phone !!!. I like the hardware of HTC or Samsung but that Android system -- No thanks !!.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
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8GB, 16GB
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Realtek HD audio
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4 X 1TB SATA
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I can see Linux being used by certain individuals in certain situations. I even had Mint on my laptop for a while.

But my main rig is Windows 7 only because:

1. I record music with Cakewalk Sonar and various soft synths, and I don't know of any equivalent to that on Linux.
2. I do some heavy gaming, much of it in Eyefinity now that I have the hardware and multiple monitors.
3. I have some devices that I imagine probably work best with Windows only, like a Zune HD, Flip pocket camcorder, etc.
4. I have a Blu-ray player in my PC and enjoy watching high-def movies, and it's plug-n-play with Windows (I don't know how well Linux supports something like that -- if anyone has any input, feel free to chime in).
5. I'm required to know Office 2010 for my job.
 

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ASUS M4A87TD/USB3
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Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 4
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Hanns.G HG281D 27"
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Western Digital Caviar Black 2 TB SATA-3
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HP Photosmart 8150 printer
HP Scanjet 4070 scanner
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As for Android -- It's a TEXTBOOK case of how NOT to write an OS. It's held together by "pieces of string" and any sort of QC on available applications ("apps") seem to be totally non-existent.
Absolutely true. The Android development does not seem to be very professional. E.g pushing out 3 releases in 1 year cannot be a thorough job. And all the complaints about V3.0 (Honeycomb) are testimony for that. The Ice Cream release seems to be a bit better. Maybe they are learning.
 

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
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from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
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2x HP w2207
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5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
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with trackball - no mices
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Trackball mice
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DSL 6000
Ubuntu are "Splitters"

Why aggravate the 100s of millions of existing users, who already know about the "Control Panel", to try and gain a few million new users?

There is a difference between worthwhile changes (e.g. bug fixes, improved files systems, optimised code, etc.) and worthless change (e.g. changing the names of functions).

If an IT person were to use linux, it would need to be ubuntu or otherwise there would be software fragmentation like android.

Most IT people I know hate Ubuntu (and that was before the "Unity" debacle and now "HUD").

For example, my Linux Networking tutor "hates" Windows, but he'd rather use W7 than Ubuntu.
He's a "Fedora Man".

If I hadn't already customised Ubuntu 10.04, I'd probably switch to "Linux Mint + Cinnamon".

CentOS would probably be the way-to-go for business users.
I didn't experience any glitches when we used it on my networking course.

I agree as a server Linux is first class but as a desktop OS the problems of updating / installing software then it won't fly for anybody other than individuals.

In a business setting, individuals shouldn't be installing software or updating their PCs, the IT dept. should be handling that (just like in a Windows environment).

I know a few corporations have tried Linux as a workstation OS -- but it can't compete with Windows in a corporate environment as a desktop OS.

Businesses could pay for RHEL.
I don't know what the price comparison between RHEL and MS is like though.

The real problem is that certain groups (e.g. Government) insist that submissions be made using MS Office formats.
 
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PC/Desktop
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W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
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AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
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ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
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12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
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Realtek?
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Samsung S23B350
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1920x1080
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WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
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Cooler Master
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Antec GX300 Tower
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3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
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Wired Optical
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DSL
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Avast
Browser
Pale Moon (64 bit)
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2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
Here is what your beloved Bill Gates is really concerned about.
 

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Windows 10 ProCore2Quad (2.6 Ghz)8 Gigs DDR2Geforce Titan Black
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Custom Built
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Windows 10 Pro
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Core2Quad (2.6 Ghz)
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nVidia 775
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8 Gigs DDR2
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Geforce Titan Black
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Motherboard Audio
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25" Asus LCD
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1680x1050
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120 Gig SSD
60 Gig SSD
750 Gig HDD
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850 Watts
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Mid-Size
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Logitech
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Logitech - I love logitech mouses
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DSL 25Mbps - Although extremely expensive
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Microsoft Anti-Virus
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