Solved Advices in how analize and find which software is slowing windows down

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I am currently using windows 7 sp1 ultimate 64bits, and even having 8gb ram and a computer with the kind of specs i have i notice that sometimes after a few days windows starts getting REAL slow, i mean, starting to use a lot of virtual memory, i also notice that Windows7 start taking longer to draw windows graphics on screen and opening programs (even when not using virtual memory). Of course that when restarting windows fixes all these problems, but eventually the problem comes back. By the way i use windows's default swap file management, so i have a single 8191mb swap file, and the drives are defragmented.

Also unfortunately i need several programs installed everytime i re-install windows (it's always the same "pack" of software) so getting rid of them is not an option UNLESS i am able to find out exactly which ones are slowing things down and this is the problem, how to know which one is.

The problem is that i need the computer 24/7 turned on, and doing a daily restart is real boring (mostly because i can't afford SSD drives so please don't bother advising to go SSD) because with all these programs i get around 1 minute to have windows ready to be used after a restart, and i want to avoid restarts since apparently the HHD's get power cyles (i am not sure about this, doing a soft reset does make a power cycle on the HHDs just like when we turn off and on the computer?) and in other computers i had i definetly noticed that in a computer with the same model of harddrives, the harddrive got worned out a lot faster than in my computer which is always turned on, but let's not discuss this.

I also noticed that just having all these programs installed don't cause much slowdowns, it appears that it's when i run certain programs windows starts to get slow, and this is what i need, i would like to know if there is any software that is able to directly measure Windows7 response time or measure slowdowns by virtual memory without i having to do it visually ? I would prefer watching actual numbers of the milliseconds to be able to judge more accuratly which program does slowdown more the pc when open, because like this it can just be any program, and there's way too many programs to be closing or uninstalling one by one to try to find the "culprit".

I already checked the windows resource manager but i found nothing unusual (altough i don't have much experience analizyng it therefore the reason of this post as well), the amount of memory used by each program is more or less the same than it was after a restart, so i suspect that probably this is a problem of cache that is slowly "eating" up memory and doesn't get cleared. (i usually move large video files between harddrives i am not sure if the cache could be causing problems).

Also some kind of tool to be able to "optimize" memory or clear any cache or resources that aren't used anymore would be great, all of this to avoid doing soft resets in a daily basis. Unless doing a log-off/in solves the problem ? I haven't tried it yet but in case it doesn't i would appreciate some advices.

Also could downgrading from ultimate to premium improve this ?

Now, i am aware that i should be saying a lot more details about my situation, but there is so much to tell that i prefer that you people do the questions instead, just check out my profile before since i just updated it with my current hardware specs.

Oh one more thing i am aware of the more basic "tricks" to speed up windows, even tough i already deactivated search service most of the others i prefer to avoid (like turning off aero) because i dont' think that is the problem since in the first hours of use the computer is quite fast even when using aero (besides turning off aero only improves speed noticeably when that problem starts happening).
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor 3200 BE8GB DD3 PC3-10700 (4X2GB modules)ATI Radeon HD 5770
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
CPU
AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor 3200 BE
Motherboard
Asus M4A785TD-V EVO
Memory
8GB DD3 PC3-10700 (4X2GB modules)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 5770
Sound Card
Onboard
Screen Resolution
1024x768
Hard Drives
320GB SAMSUNG SATA2
500GB SEAGATE SATA2
2000GB SAMSUNG SATA2
250GB HITACHI SATA2
To me, that sounds suspiciously like a memory leak slowly eating up all your available RAM until Windows is forced to start paging continuously.

What we'll need is a detailed list of all your installed software. Can you open Programs and Features from your Control Panel, maximize the window and take a screenshot of it?

Which antivirus software do you have installed?
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bitIntel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz4GB DDR2-667 (4x1GB in dual-channel config)nVidia GeForce 9800 GT
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom-built
OS
Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz
Motherboard
Asus PL5D2
Memory
4GB DDR2-667 (4x1GB in dual-channel config)
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia GeForce 9800 GT
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer P236H
Screen Resolution
1920x1200 (DVI)
Hard Drives
OCZ SSD Vertex Plus 60GB SATA (Firmware 3.55), 64MB cache
Hitachi HD321KJ SATA, 320GB, 7200rpm, 16MB cache
PSU
Antec TruePower 2.0
Case
Cooler Master Centurion
Cooling
Too many fans
Keyboard
Standard
Mouse
Microsoft wireless optical mouse
Internet Speed
AT&T U-verse (18mbit/sec)
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Other devices:
Compaq CQ-60 laptop
Google Nexus 7 (2012) tablet
Nvidia SHIELD tablet (US/LTE)
Hardkernel ODROID-XU single-board computer (Samsung Exynos 5420)
To me, that sounds suspiciously like a memory leak slowly eating up all your available RAM until Windows is forced to start paging continuously.

Yeah now that you mention it yes, i am starting to think it's indeed a memory leak because i think that the computer does get slower and slower even when not doing anything at all, but is it normal that doesn't show up in the resouce manager ? If not is there a way to detect this ?

What we'll need is a detailed list of all your installed software. Can you open Programs and Features from your Control Panel, maximize the window and take a screenshot of it?

Well... it's really a ton of software, there's going to take a long time troubleshooting all this i hope you or anyone else have patience to go on with me on this :)

Which antivirus software do you have installed?
Kaspersky internet security 2010. There's no way to replace this, not even with the more recent versions, also this is the only firewall / antivirus i trust, i already tried many others but always had worse problems. Also i tried the 2011 version a few months ago and it was even slower than this one (100% cpu usage in the first core very frequently), altough i might try it again soon if i found that the culprit is this 2010 suite.
 

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My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor 3200 BE8GB DD3 PC3-10700 (4X2GB modules)ATI Radeon HD 5770
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
CPU
AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor 3200 BE
Motherboard
Asus M4A785TD-V EVO
Memory
8GB DD3 PC3-10700 (4X2GB modules)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 5770
Sound Card
Onboard
Screen Resolution
1024x768
Hard Drives
320GB SAMSUNG SATA2
500GB SEAGATE SATA2
2000GB SAMSUNG SATA2
250GB HITACHI SATA2
Wait a minute... i have found this application "Advanced System Optimizer" from systweak and it has a module specifically suited for memory optimizer and even recover memory leaks maybe it's perfect for the problem i have...

Maybe it's best to postpone this here and let me test the software for a week and then i give the feedback here, in case it's not enought to solve the problem i reply back here and then we continue this.

Update : it seems its supposed to temporarly clear the memory leaks and optimize memory, so even if this works, i will be only treating the symptons of the problem and not it's root cause so i guess it's best continue this thread, since i don't see how this program can help tracing the root of the problem it's mostly to temporarly "delay" the problem i think :)
 
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My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor 3200 BE8GB DD3 PC3-10700 (4X2GB modules)ATI Radeon HD 5770
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
CPU
AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor 3200 BE
Motherboard
Asus M4A785TD-V EVO
Memory
8GB DD3 PC3-10700 (4X2GB modules)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 5770
Sound Card
Onboard
Screen Resolution
1024x768
Hard Drives
320GB SAMSUNG SATA2
500GB SEAGATE SATA2
2000GB SAMSUNG SATA2
250GB HITACHI SATA2
Finally i think i know which was the problem : the problem is Adobe audition 3.0 it "eats" almost 4gb of memory just by opening a 44m audio file after applying some filters, this seems to be caused by it's undo system. Anyway so now i know how to avoid the problem from happening, so i guess this can be marked as solved :)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor 3200 BE8GB DD3 PC3-10700 (4X2GB modules)ATI Radeon HD 5770
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
CPU
AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor 3200 BE
Motherboard
Asus M4A785TD-V EVO
Memory
8GB DD3 PC3-10700 (4X2GB modules)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 5770
Sound Card
Onboard
Screen Resolution
1024x768
Hard Drives
320GB SAMSUNG SATA2
500GB SEAGATE SATA2
2000GB SAMSUNG SATA2
250GB HITACHI SATA2
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