Solved AMD FX4100 or AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition

[adamwentzell82]

As the title says I plan on upgrading to the new AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX and would like to know if this new Processor is better or just as good as I got now. Also what's the difference between the 2. I'm new to the FX series CPU's
I have this CPU now AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb (OC 3.7GHz) Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX.
Thanks guys

 

[quickdraw2011]

What motherboard do you have?

 

[M1GU31]

stay with the phenom ii x4 955, the fx-4100 is less powerful

here take a look at these cpu gaming benchmarks you will see the difference and that it is a downgrade

AMD FX-8120, AMD FX-6100 and AMD FX-4100 CPUs Review. Page 6 - X-bit labs

 

[adamwentzell82]

I just bought this mobo ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

 

[adamwentzell82]

I need to get a new CPU where the one I have now is starting to show it's age where it has been OC to 3.7GHz ever since I had it so it's starting to run slower then it did when I first got it.

 

[quickdraw2011]

I've looked around, but don't see anything much better than the one you already have.

Some have 6 core, 8 core but there isn't software available to fully support multi-threading on 6 and 8 cores, yet.

So, the 4 core is just as good.

That's my two cents worth.

 

[M1GU31]

yeah pretty much what you had is pretty good and I can't seem to find much expect that the amd fx-8150 seems to beat the phenom ii x4 955 but not by much and and some benches loses to it but beats it in other test. So if you want something a tad better or about the same as that phenom ii 955 then get a fx-8150 but I find it odd that it's a 8 core and performs about the same as a 4 core phenom ii 955 . Choice is yours mate,personally i would just go with the phenom ii 955 which is cheaper and gives about the same performance. Amazed how amd messed this one up with the fx series.

 

[adamwentzell82]

I tried to get the Phenom ii 955 and the Phenom ii 980 but i can't get them anywhere no store around my place sells these or most of the Phenom's sad to say the Phenom is a dying breed lol

 

[quickdraw2011]

Do you mean these?

AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition, 4x 3.70GHz, boxed

http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Phenom-Edition-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B00275G0VE

4 and 6 core are on their way out.

It appears production stopped April 2010, on 6 core Phemon ll

 

[adamwentzell82]

I can't get these at the local stores i tried and I just ran the OC software that came with my new motherboard and I was able to push my CPU right up to 4GHz my old mobo the max was 3.7GHz.

 

[quickdraw2011]

What exactly are you trying to achieve? Are you just tinkering or ?

I stopped buying computer hardware locally when I found out years ago I could buy it on the Internet cheaper and have it shipped to my door step.

I'm current building two new systems for my game crazy sons!

You know the new 3D stuff.

 

[adamwentzell82]

I'm just having fun with my new mobo LOL and I may go all out and buy the FX4170 or just buy the cheaper FX4100 and OC it to the same speed lol

 

[quickdraw2011]

Hey, most of us computer geeks do the same thing...all the time!


I have a pile of blown up motherboards!

Just kidding

 

[adamwentzell82]

By reading reviews on the FX4100 I see some people able to OC that CPU from 4.5 to 5GHz range with a good PSU and cooling and I was thinking I could never come close to that with the CPU I have now lol

 

[adamwentzell82]

Ok let's change this and tell me what's better:

1) AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX.
2) AMD FX-4170 Zambezi 4.2GHz (4.3GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4170FRGUBOX

 

[adamwentzell82]

Would this CPU be better then the Phenom II X4 955 I have now? AMD FX-6100 Zambezi 3.3GHz Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core Desktop Processor FD6100WMGUSBX

 

[M1GU31]

It would be about the same I believe according to what I read up in google, you be better off buying a [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Phenom II X6 1045T would be a better option[/FONT] in my opinion, here's a trusted supplier I know and also is based in Canada were you live so should be faster shipping then it would be to the u.s. So i linked it to the Canadian page and it would cost you 159.98 CAD and it's in stock
AMD Phenom II X6 1045T Six Core Processor AM3 2.7GHZ 6MB Cache 95W 45NM Retail Box - AMD - HDT45TWFGRBOX

 

[quickdraw2011]

To answer some of your questions. Read through this article.

AMD Phenom II series comparison

 

[Iceman1955]

Interesting article. So, would these be the best processors for his application?

Old Type:
Amazon.com: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Processor, Black Edition (HDE00ZFBGRBOX): Electronics

New Type:
http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FX-8150-Edition-Processor-FD8150FRGUBOX/dp/B005UBNLFK/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

x6 core would be an upgrade to his x4 core. So, would run future multi-threaded software faster.

Since his Mobo supports 125w TDP. He would only need to buy a processor, and use the old heatsink and fan.

Here's a comment taken from the article Quickdraw supplied.


"The Thurban And Zosma cores posses a feature called "turbo core overclocking". This feature allows the CPU to run in two different modes, When an application does not require all of the cores to be enabled, half of the cores can be disabled while the remaining cores can be automatically overclocked by up to 500Mhz. When an Application then requires all cores to be enabled the CPU will revert to all cores being in use and return to the standard clock speed."

Iceman

 

[adamwentzell82]

I just ordered this one AMD FX-6100 Zambezi 3.3GHz Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core Desktop Processor FD6100WMGUSBX and I plan to put the AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition in my spare motherboard and build a spare computer with that CPU I hope this new 6 core is as fast as what people are saying on New Egg cause I ordered this one local and it cost me with tax just under $229