American ISPs to launch massive copyright spying scheme on July 12

[akentrepreneur]

Protect your online privacy

The privacy rights that we are supposedly afforded in life don’t translate to our online lives. When we send a letter we have a reasonable expectation of privacy. The letter will arrive at its destination, unopened. Sadly, this is not the case online. Most traffic sent over the Internet is plain text, and even that which is encrypted with SSL is susceptible to a trusted man in the middle interception.


With this being said, there are ways to protect your internet privacy. You can prevent ISP's from spying on your traffic by using an encrypted tunnel such as hushtunnel.com

 

[seekermeister]

Gamestop's case is completely legal. The point I was making is people are profiting of other company's works through what Phone Man said--legal mumbo-jumbo of the EULA. Companies complain that piracy is the cost of lost sales while they ignore the fact that the used product industry receives a huge profit from it while the creators will never see a dime.

Piracy, at its most, makes something more popular. More audience=more popularity=more likelyhood of people actually buying said product. I really hate when companies go to sever methods to "protect their property", but then again I don't them to completely remove any form of DRM because I've seen both sides of the extremes and both just have real terrible effects.

Regardless of what any EULA or law says, I fail to see anything wrong with selling a used licensed program, game, video or music media. Is it piracy to sell a used automobile, house, or any other personal property? And yes, as far as I'm concerned, it is my property...at least the license that is.

Intellectual property...where does that rate any higher than the amount of intellect that goes into designing and manufacturing a tangible product? In fact, when it does come to tangigle products, you can't copyright thoughts or ideas, they have to be reduced to a physical form.

 

[seekermeister]

The privacy rights that we are supposedly afforded in life don’t translate to our online lives. When we send a letter we have a reasonable expectation of privacy. The letter will arrive at its destination, unopened. Sadly, this is not the case online. Most traffic sent over the Internet is plain text, and even that which is encrypted with SSL is susceptible to a trusted man in the middle interception.


With this being said, there are ways to protect your internet privacy. You can prevent ISP's from spying on your traffic by using an encrypted tunnel such as hushtunnel.com

Interesting, I'll have to give it some thought. The part that bothers me is that it is not something that you can simply buy, you have to rent it month by month.

I found it interesting that my ISP claims that my 50GB data usage cap allows for 125 movies, and this services 100GB cap claims that it only provides for 50. Quite a difference, but I tend to think that 125 is closer to accurate.

 

[Phone Man]

Regardless of what any EULA or law says, I fail to see anything wrong with selling a used licensed program, game, video or music media. Is it piracy to sell a used automobile, house, or any other personal property? And yes, as far as I'm concerned, it is my property...at least the license that is.

If you are the owner, then you can sell it. If you own the car you can sell it, but if you lease the car then you cannot. The same holds true for a license for a game. Just because you paid money for it, it depends on the contract (Eula) as to whether you own it or just paid to use it. Just because you say you own it does not make it fact. The Eula is a legal contract between you and the vendor.

Jim

 

[seekermeister]

Not everything that is legal is right, and not all contracts are legal. I spoke of what is right and good, not what is legal, so there is no point in beating a dead horse.

 

[M1GU31]

another fail attempt from congress just like sopa and pipa lol these big money business and the government are trying so hard yet most of there attempts have failed. Hopefully this one fails just like all the others did.

 

[Anak]

I just noticed a CNET article that updates the implementation to July 1, 2012.

Correction March 16 at 9:04 a.m.: This story incorrectly reported the date when ISPs are expected to begin implementing their graduated response programs. The correct date is July 1.

Source at bottom of page:
RIAA chief: ISPs to start policing copyright by July 1 | Media Maverick - CNET News

 

[mr pc]

some very interesting points made in the comments section concerning privacy, liability, and possible complicity

 

[bigcitycat]

the only reason why they are hurting is because half the crap they put out is crap - both movies and music

curious who will be exempt from the witch hunt - wonder how this will affect their market share and if customers and websites alike will protest this. Maybe don't go to the movies, buy music, and disconnect internet for a couple months?

see what really hurts?

I agree, Hollywood is anti Christ and pro liberal. They are alienating more than half the country. I boycott everyday and it's not difficult cause I'm not interested in the crap they are peddling.

With regards to the issue. I never download copyrighted material illegally, but I do not want my ISP being the police force for the entertainment industry or for the Govt. If I found out they are I will move to an ISP that does not and the beautiful thing about capitalism is that someone will take that role for my business.

 

[windude99]

I think that our government and these companies need to open their eyes and focus on what's really important. There are always going to be movie, software pirates. There is no way to stop them. If these companies haven't gone out of business yet, then they're fine. We are in tough economic times, so that is what our government needs to focus on.

 

[iseeuu]

I offer this experience, and ask what conclusions might be reached:

This person once bragged to me how after copying hundreds of music CDs to blanks, all the originals were sold and just the copies were kept. Later this person participated in a band and posted their original music on-line. But before doing so they made sure the original music was copyrighted. When I asked why, the response was to keep the music from being copied without permission.



Cheers!
Robert

 

[Anak]

I offer this experience, and ask what conclusions might be reached:

This person once bragged to me how after copying hundreds of music CDs to blanks, all the originals were sold and just the copies were kept. Later this person participated in a band and posted their original music on-line. But before doing so they made sure the original music was copyrighted. When I asked why, the response was to keep the music from being copied without permission.



Cheers!
Robert

That translates to a peculiar quirk that humans have, it's called "Don't do as I do, do as I say".

Your acquaintance obviously felt it was okay to do what S/he did as an individual, but once associated with a group/band had to acquiesce to the groups majority ruling.

 

[Skulblaka]

Can someone fill me in on this? What I mean to say, wouldn't Peerblock still do whatever it does; hiding pirates from being monitored on what they're downloading from their ISP? If Peerblock is still working, then what's the point in this "scheme" if many knowledgeable pirates use Peerblock or some other service to avoid being caught?

 

[A Guy]

The "professionals" will still skate by. The occasional "pirate" is always the one who gets caught, and is made an example of. A Guy

 

[jeepmann4x4]

Can someone fill me in on this? What I mean to say, wouldn't Peerblock still do whatever it does; hiding pirates from being monitored on what they're downloading from their ISP? If Peerblock is still working, then what's the point in this "scheme" if many knowledgeable pirates use Peerblock or some other service to avoid being caught?

Peerblock can't catch all the spys, it can only catch known-spy's (I think).

A Guy:
The "professionals" will still skate by. The occasional "pirate" is always the one who gets caught, and is made an example of. A Guy

That is the truth of it right there, with seedboxes,tunnels...ect that the pros hide behind "They" can only catch the little guy!


@Everyone: Don't sing in the shower!! They will shut your water off!!!

 

[Anak]

@Everyone: Don't sing in the shower!! They will shut your water off!!!

I had to chuckle when I read that, but how prophetic.

Think about this the next time you sing "Happy Birthday" snopes.com: Happy Birthday Copyright

The Snopes article states they don't "go after" casual usage, mostly commercial usage, $2million a year, so interpret that as you like.

When is the last time you have ever heard it sung on the telly or radio?

 

[arkhi]

I'm going to search for other ISPs here that don't invade my privacy. On the other note, don't they realize torrents have encryption capabilites? No? Oh well.

 

[Skulblaka]

So, nothing's changed except the policy on warning possible pirates.

I'm going to search for other ISPs here that don't invade my privacy. On the other note, don't they realize torrents have encryption capabilites? No? Oh well.

This, my ISP provider isn't among those who will enforce the new policy. I don't think this will get anywhere, I mean, Peerblock.

 

[seekermeister]

I'm going to search for other ISPs here that don't invade my privacy. On the other note, don't they realize torrents have encryption capabilites? No? Oh well.

Even with encryption they can tell whether you connected with a torrent. They couldn't tell what you may have downloaded, but that doesn't matter, because they don't have to prove anything...only suspect you.

 

[arkhi]

I'm going to search for other ISPs here that don't invade my privacy. On the other note, don't they realize torrents have encryption capabilites? No? Oh well.

Even with encryption they can tell whether you connected with a torrent. They couldn't tell what you may have downloaded, but that doesn't matter, because they don't have to prove anything...only suspect you.

Yeah, and I could be patching Final Fantasy XIV or World of Warcraft with the new 14 GB exapansions--or I could be downloading a media file a company distributed via torrenting.

This policy just reaks of fail. Companies always assume the worst of things and the reason I am concerned is because it will be more of a hindrance than a benefit to anyone.