Angry? I'm FURIOUS

[Skype]

So I expected Windows 7 to be revolutionary, for both every day tasks and gaming. I've heard about miraculous boosts in FPS for people running W7 as opposed to vista, 3 FPS to 30 FPS.

I, on the other hand, have never used such a terrible operating system for gaming. Vista benefited me in many more ways.

I'm not running on some out dated machine.

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition ( 4 CPU's ) @ 3.2GHz
ASUS M4N82 Deluxe
8GB DDR2 4x2GB @ 800MHz
2x nVidia GeForce GTX 275 896MB GDDR3 2-way SLI
1TB Hitachi HDD
2x 24" LG W2452TX @ 1920 by 1200

With Vista it ran crysis DX10, full screen and everything maxed out with an average of 40 FPS. Now I'm getting 28.

Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising
W7: 28 FPS
Vista: 70+

Mirrors Edge:
w7: 40-50
Vista: 60+

I am pissed beyond belief. I can't enjoy games if I can see stutter. I bought this machine so I could run games with a beastly frame rate, and know I can splash out on all the new release games without worrying about a thing. W7 has put this worry back into my mind.

I've tried running in compatibility mode. I've tried updating my drivers. I've tried closing all of my applications and ending processes that I don't need. I've even tried disabling my second monitor while I play.

Nothing. It's still a pile of crap and frankly, unplayable.

Is there anything I can do to make w7 run games better? I don't want to switch back to Vista because it'd mean a fresh install. Backing up is a pain and w7 had the upgrade option so I didn't have to worry about that.

 

[swarfega]

Your problems are likely to be from the upgrade install. Upgrading has been known to cause issues. Personal preference would be to back up and clean install win7. Its worth it.

 

[Tews]

Return to Vista and be at peace....

 

[scubasteve]

Wow...with those differences, it looks like it must be a driver issue...and/or perhaps SLI not being utilized. Hard to believe the OS could adversely affect performance to that degree otherwise.

 

[zigzag3143]

So I expected Windows 7 to be revolutionary, for both every day tasks and gaming. I've heard about miraculous boosts in FPS for people running W7 as opposed to vista, 3 FPS to 30 FPS.

I, on the other hand, have never used such a terrible operating system for gaming. Vista benefited me in many more ways.

I'm not running on some out dated machine.

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition ( 4 CPU's ) @ 3.2GHz
ASUS M4N82 Deluxe
8GB DDR2 4x2GB @ 800MHz
2x nVidia GeForce GTX 275 896MB GDDR3 2-way SLI
1TB Hitachi HDD
2x 24" LG W2452TX @ 1920 by 1200

With Vista it ran crysis DX10, full screen and everything maxed out with an average of 40 FPS. Now I'm getting 28.

Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising
W7: 28 FPS
Vista: 70+

Mirrors Edge:
w7: 40-50
Vista: 60+

I am pissed beyond belief. I can't enjoy games if I can see stutter. I bought this machine so I could run games with a beastly frame rate, and know I can splash out on all the new release games without worrying about a thing. W7 has put this worry back into my mind.

I've tried running in compatibility mode. I've tried updating my drivers. I've tried closing all of my applications and ending processes that I don't need. I've even tried disabling my second monitor while I play.

Nothing. It's still a pile of crap and frankly, unplayable.

Is there anything I can do to make w7 run games better? I don't want to switch back to Vista because it'd mean a fresh install. Backing up is a pain and w7 had the upgrade option so I didn't have to worry about that.

You may have a warp drive machiine but if the networking isnt set up correctly you are going to have stutter and lower frame rates. Suspect you are running homegroup and IPv6. Change to workgroup and disable IPv6 then retest.

With my pile of C***P machine the frame rates are up 10-20% over vista

Ken J

 

[Skype]

Wow...with those differences, it looks like it must be a driver issue...and/or perhaps SLI not being utilized. Hard to believe the OS could adversely affect performance to that degree otherwise.

Scubasteve? As in Scubastever from PM?

Edit: SLI is enabled. I actually have to run Steam in compatibility mode for Counter-Strike Source to run without crashing.


@swarfega:

Are you 100% on that? I'd rather not back up everything, spend hours doing a fresh install then have the same problem. It's lightning fast for everything else, which is why I want to keep it. What I was thinking was partitioning my HDD and having vista on it, so I can just reboot to game ( my boot up time is literally 20 seconds, so it doesn't bother me at all. )


@ Ken J / zigzag3143

Sorry, again in english?

 

[Jonathan_King]

Are you 100% on that? I'd rather not back up everything, spend hours doing a fresh install then have the same problem. It's lightning fast for everything else, which is why I want to keep it. What I was thinking was partitioning my HDD and having vista on it, so I can just reboot to game ( my boot up time is literally 20 seconds, so it doesn't bother me at all. )
)

Yes, it is definitely advisable to do a clean install rather than an upgrade.

 

[Skype]

Are you 100% on that? I'd rather not back up everything, spend hours doing a fresh install then have the same problem. It's lightning fast for everything else, which is why I want to keep it. What I was thinking was partitioning my HDD and having vista on it, so I can just reboot to game ( my boot up time is literally 20 seconds, so it doesn't bother me at all. )
)

Yes, it is definitely advisable to do a clean install rather than an upgrade.

I understand this, but what if it doesn't fix it? I appreciate your help but I'd rather a 100% definite YES that I wont have the same problem.

 

[Jonathan_King]

We can't give you a definite answer. All we know is that you are having problems, and doing an upgrade can sometimes cause problems. If someone knew exactly what the problem was, and could give an exact solution, they would have given it already. One person mentioned it could be a driver issue. Another mentioned it could have to do with your networking settings. You decide: is it worth your time to back up and do a clean install, or are you okay with this terrible performance you are getting?

 

[Darryl Licht]

So I expected Windows 7 to be revolutionary, for both every day tasks and gaming. I've heard about miraculous boosts in FPS for people running W7 as opposed to vista, 3 FPS to 30 FPS.

I, on the other hand, have never used such a terrible operating system for gaming. Vista benefited me in many more ways.

I'm not running on some out dated machine.

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition ( 4 CPU's ) @ 3.2GHz
ASUS M4N82 Deluxe
8GB DDR2 4x2GB @ 800MHz
2x nVidia GeForce GTX 275 896MB GDDR3 2-way SLI
1TB Hitachi HDD
2x 24" LG W2452TX @ 1920 by 1200

With Vista it ran crysis DX10, full screen and everything maxed out with an average of 40 FPS. Now I'm getting 28.

Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising
W7: 28 FPS
Vista: 70+

Mirrors Edge:
w7: 40-50
Vista: 60+

I am pissed beyond belief. I can't enjoy games if I can see stutter. I bought this machine so I could run games with a beastly frame rate, and know I can splash out on all the new release games without worrying about a thing. W7 has put this worry back into my mind.

I've tried running in compatibility mode. I've tried updating my drivers. I've tried closing all of my applications and ending processes that I don't need. I've even tried disabling my second monitor while I play.

Nothing. It's still a pile of crap and frankly, unplayable.

Is there anything I can do to make w7 run games better? I don't want to switch back to Vista because it'd mean a fresh install. Backing up is a pain and w7 had the upgrade option so I didn't have to worry about that.

Drivers have always been an issue after a new OS release. The manufacturers and their programming staffs are racing to get Win7 drivers released! Have a little patience, this is a great OS and many ppl have seen great increase in fps and gaming performance when using win7 compliant drivers!

Skype: If you have an old HDD laying around try the clean install to that first!

 

[ickymay]

Edit: SLI is enabled. I actually have to run Steam in compatibility mode for Counter-Strike Source to run without crashing.

the fact you are running steam in compatibility mode is a clue somethings not right

always do a clean install otherwise you are likely going to inherit the best and worst of your old system

 

[Skype]

Ok well I'm currently re-installing w7 on a partition. I'll test out the games I'm having troubles with and if that doesn't fix it, I'll do as Darryl suggested and just wait it out.

Once I've finished testing +rep to all of you. Thanks

 

[Jonathan_King]

You are welcome. I hope it works out for you. Windows 7 is a great OS, and I am sure you will be happy with it, once these issues get sorted out.

 

[BadLag]

I just installed Win7 64bit and Medal of Honor: Airbourne rocks, had some issues with Timeshift but a patch from the game manufacturer resolved this...so far in my experience, Win7 rocks on gaming, in fact it was so good I had to try it on my Sony 46XBR3 downstairs TV...I hauled the box downstairs, tweak the resolution running on HDMI, wow, games are great at 1920x1080....may have to leave the box in the living room although my NEC 22 wide screen is good at native resolution 1680x1050 in my office....so far so good with Win7

 

[Darryl Licht]

Ok well I'm currently re-installing w7 on a partition. I'll test out the games I'm having troubles with and if that doesn't fix it, I'll do as Darryl suggested and just wait it out.

Once I've finished testing +rep to all of you. Thanks

Please let us know how it works out!

And BTW... which version # bits Win7 are you trying to install... i might have missed that!

Latest Nvidia Drivers 32 bit: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_32bit_191.07_whql.html

Latest Nvidia Drivers 64 bit: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_64bit_191.07_whql.html

Apparently they are same file...is this the version you are trying 191.07???

 

[Skype]

Hi all! Great news. I partitioned my drive, installed a clean copy of vista, and then 64bit w7 ( it was an upgrade CD ). Installed Fraps and ran Operation Flashpoint off of my other partition, a solid 45 FPS. OK it's not 70 like it used to be, but it's playable. And that's what matters, right?

Looks like you guys were right, a clean install is always best. I'll bare this in mind in the future.

+rep to everyone who posted here helping me. You can lock/do whatever you do to finished threads.

Thanks a bunch!

 

[Darryl Licht]

Installed Fraps and ran Operation Flashpoint off of my other partition, a solid 45 FPS. OK it's not 70 like it used to be, but it's playable. And that's what matters, right?

Is that 45 fps with the updated win7 driver and a reboot?

If yes, sounds like you still have some other driver issue, you should be equal to or faster than you were in Hasta La Vista!

Have you double checked your mobo manufacturer website for win7 chipset drivers, etc? Also double check your video settings in BIOS, especially if you reset to factory defaults...

Please keep us updated!

 

[BusOfTheUndead]

Hi all! Great news. I partitioned my drive, installed a clean copy of vista, and then 64bit w7 ( it was an upgrade CD ). Installed Fraps and ran Operation Flashpoint off of my other partition, a solid 45 FPS. OK it's not 70 like it used to be, but it's playable. And that's what matters, right?

Looks like you guys were right, a clean install is always best. I'll bare this in mind in the future.

+rep to everyone who posted here helping me. You can lock/do whatever you do to finished threads.

Thanks a bunch!

Did you still do an upgrade to Windows 7 from the new Vista install? You can perform a clean install with the upgrade media. As long as the setup detects a previous version of Windows it will allow you to perform a clean install. Even without having another OS installed it is possible to do a clean install with a simple work around.

 

[Skype]

Yep I did a clean install.

I'm also getting a boosted frame rate in crysis with alternate-frame rendering 2 ( nvidia ) for alla you who have it also!

50+ fps yay!

 

[Darryl Licht]

Yep I did a clean install.

I'm also getting a boosted frame rate in crysis with alternate-frame rendering 2 ( nvidia ) for alla you who have it also!

50+ fps yay!

Still not great, if you were at 70 fps with Hasta La Vista!