Solved Another slow file moving story

DCSeven

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My Internet searching brought me here because this site had the closest answer to my problem. I see other people have complained about file transfer speeds in Windows 7 but, the best I can tell, their problem had to do with network drives. My problem is slow speeds between my stack of internal hard drives so I'm not sure if the solution for network issues would apply to me.

I do a ton of video editing, so my folder sizes always measure in gigabytes. When I copy or cut and paste a folder, the transfer speed always starts out anywhere from 90 to 120 MB/s and it slowly drops and drops to something like 35 MB/s. Right now I'm moving 90 gigs, it's about 30% done and I'm still looking at an hour to go. Until a month ago, this was an XP machine and it was never this slow. If my motherboard hadn't gone belly up, it would still be an XP machine. Is this a known W7 issue or what? Are there any reg hacks or other things to look at to speed things up here?

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Intel Core i7-4790K Devil’s Canyon Quad-Core 4.0GHz
Asus Maximus VII Hero Motherboard
G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB DDR3 2133
CRUCIAL 512GB 2.5 MX100 SSD Boot drive
4x Seagate 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB
4x WD 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core i5-7500 CPU @ 3.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
Motherboard
Asus Maximus VIII Hero
Memory
Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB 2 x 8GB DDR4-2400
Hard Drives
Crucial 512GB 2.5 MX100 SSD Boot drive
2x Seagate 10TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB
4x Seagate 12TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB
Why do you think it is slower? Large file transfers like you are doing are going to hit the wall on the max sustained transfer speed. Understand, hard drives are only fast during the first part of the transfer this is because HDDs work in burst thanks in part to their cache. (64MB for your drives)

So the beginning part of the transfer is fast then it slows down, why? Because at the start Windows is sending the data to the cache on the HDD which then gets flushed onto the physical platters. However the cache fills back up faster then the HDD can write the data. Your slow down is the physical limitations of the HDD, software will not over come that.


As for why it might have been faster in Windows XP....I doubt it was. XP hid a lot of data going on the back end, and was never accurate. XP would tell you the transfer was complete even if the HDD was still writing the buffer in the cache. This lend to data corruption and data lost when users unplugged thinking it was done.

(Please forgive misspellings and poor grammar, on phone)
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Alienware Aurora ALX R4
OS
Windows 10 Pro (x64)
CPU
Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz - 4.5GHz)
Motherboard
Alienware Aurora-R4 x79
Memory
4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)
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Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
Sound Card
SteelSeries Siberia Elite
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Dell UltraSharp U3011
Screen Resolution
2560x1600
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB, Seagate 1TB Desktop Hybrid HDD, 2x Western Digital 4TB Green HDD
PSU
875W Some Dell PSU <.<
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Alienware Aurora ALX
Cooling
Custom Liquid Cooling (EK CPU & GPU blocks) dual EK 480RAD
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Logitech G710+ Mechanical
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Logitech G700s
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Verizon Fios (50 mbps average)
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Server: Intel NUC D54250WYK: i5-4250U, 16GB, 256 GB mSATA, Windows Server 2012 R2
Have you tried TeraCopy? Supposed to be faster than the built in copy. Worth a try.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo IdeaCenter 450
OS
Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
Memory
16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Integrated HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 22" LCD
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD
2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2
1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
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Dell USB
Mouse
Lenovo USB
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Cable via Road Runner 3MB Upload, 30MB Download
Antivirus
Windows Defender, MBAM Pro, MBAE
Browser
Seamonkey
Other Info
UEFI/GPT
PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
Don't get fooled by the 6GB/sec rating. That means nothing. The transfer speed is what the platters allow. Make a test with HD Tune. That will tell you the capabilities of your disks. It will also show the degradation over time.

HD Tune website
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
logicearth - Thanks for your input. I'll be the first to admit that I'm a wannabe geek. I'm a semi-old guy, self-taught when it comes to computers, and really know just enough to build a decent computer and get in over my head. Still learning as I go along... I can't say I remember any issues with XP corrupting data from disconnecting a drive too soon, but that could have just been luck on my part.

Ztruker - No, I haven't, but that'll be something worth taking a look at. Thank you.

whs - Also something I'll be checking out. Thank you as well.


I guess I can mark this as solved.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core i5-7500 CPU @ 3.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
Motherboard
Asus Maximus VIII Hero
Memory
Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB 2 x 8GB DDR4-2400
Hard Drives
Crucial 512GB 2.5 MX100 SSD Boot drive
2x Seagate 10TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB
4x Seagate 12TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB
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