Are HDDs That Were Used In RAID 1 'Marked?'

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I can't figure out which terms to search to answer this question. I apologize if it has been answered before.

I have three sets of 'matching pairs' of disk drives in hand. Two sets were used in RAID 1 arrays in a previous XP/Pro based system. The RAID was established using Intel Rapid Storage Technology (IRST) software.

I want to reuse the drives in my recently installed Windows 7/Pro x64 system. I have not intentionally installed IRST on this system. Note that my motherboard, Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3P (rev. 2.1), was designed with RAID in mind.

The WD Raptors were OS/Program drives. If they don't prove too small at 74 Gb, I want to use them in an eSATA box for backup storage of data. I plan to completely reformat them as a single NTFS partition. Can I safely conclude that any memory that they were once in a RAID configuration will be removed by this process?

Is it true that the 477 Gb and 610 Gb WD Caviar drives may give me trouble if they, too, are not completely reformatted? Are they 'marked' as RAID drives? Will this cause problems in the future if I use only one of the pair to store data files and reformat the other to store backup images? Can they be 'unmarked' or do I need to move all the data to a temporary storage device so that I can reformat them?

I am using one of the third set, a pair of Crucial M550 SSDs, for my Windows 7 OS and program files. I'd like to use the other as a backup drive on which to store images of C:\ Unfortunately it has a botched attempt at installing Windows 7 on it and refuses to respond to 'diskpart' at a command prompt. In another thread I was told to try PartedMagic and I've emailed Patrick Verner in the hope that he will tell me how to get the program onto a bootable CD/DVD.

http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware...ive-use-after-failed-win7-install-attemp.html

Thanks,

baumgrenze
 

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To the best of my knowledge formatting this drives should wipe them enough to reconfigure your new Raid. Lets hope someone with deep Raid knowledge will confirm as well.
 

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(2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port
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Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
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(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(2) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 3 tb Seagate Barracuda
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS
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HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
Drobo 5N advanced NAS
I'd Prefer NOT to Reformat Unless Absolutely Needed

To the best of my knowledge formatting this drives should wipe them enough to reconfigure your new Raid. Lets hope someone with deep Raid knowledge will confirm as well.


Thank you, linnemeyerhere

Just to be clear, if I can undo the RAID 1 on the Data Disk pair without reformatting, I'd really like to do that. I'll reformat one of them later, perhaps the smaller of the two.

That said, I've seen some flaky behavior in the last few days.

I was warned that CHKDSK needed to run on F:\. I was in a rush and I ignored the warning as it was bedtime. When I later restarted the system, CHKDSK ran on D:\, not of F:\.

I was evaluating Apache Open Office Writer. I pasted a few pages of text into a document, changed line breaks into paragraph marks, eliminated double paragraph marks, and formatted the paragraphs to 0 pts before and 3 pts after. I decided to do a Save As to preserve my work. I realized I wanted a date from the top of the document. I closed the Save As dialog, navigated to the top of page 1, and tried again to save the document. The two step path I tried to save to under "My Documents" was gone, no trace. I've done a thorough search. I've asked on the AOO forum and been assured that AOO could not have caused the problem.

Does this ring any bells?

thanks

baumgrenze
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom built by GamePC/Solid Electric - Palo Alto - on 03/10/08
OS
Win 7 Pro 64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4 GHz) Quad Core
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P Intel P35 ATX (rev. 2.1)
Memory
2 x Crucial 4GB Kit (2GBx2) DDR2 CT2KIT25664AA800
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 PCIe 512 Mb
Sound Card
RealTek audio on MOBO + EDIROL UA-1EX
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S24A450BW 24" LED monitor
Screen Resolution
1600 x 1200 at 75 Hz
Hard Drives
2 Crucial 128 Gb SSD (CT128M550SSD1)
one mounted and running Win7/Pro x64
one disconnected containing only Win10/Pro upgrade - in process
1 1TB WD Caviar Black (WD1003FZEX-00MK2A0) (Data drive)
1 2TB Seagate 2TB (PN/ 9JB1N3-576 - ST2000DM001-1ER
PSU
Seasonic S12-HT 650W 80% Efficiency Power Supply
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Lian Li PC-B25B
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Gigabyte Silent-Pipe
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Dell MS Comfort
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HP x4000 wireless
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Sonic FTTN @ 23 Mbps
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Avast
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SeaMonkey
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BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. F6 06/18/2009

System Specs - Updated on 09//16/19
So you want to set up two Crucial ssd's in raid then set up two 10k WD 74GB spinners in raid to mirror the ssd raid?
 

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A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64
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i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD80 b3
Memory
32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Z Series Card
Monitor(s) Displays
(2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050 p
Hard Drives
Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(1) 1 tb WD Black
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(2) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 3 tb Seagate Barracuda
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS
(1) Drobo 5N w/5 Seagate 3tb
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Basic 120mbps down
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Trend Micro Titanium Max Security & Malwarebytes Premium
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Chrome and IE 10
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5 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on NZXT cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd/Blu Ray optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
Drobo 5N advanced NAS
Not At All - I'm Persuaded to Let RAID Go

So you want to set up two Crucial ssd's in raid then set up two 10k WD 74GB spinners in raid to mirror the ssd raid?

Thanks for persisting,

This is not the case at all. Everywhere I looked I've encountered the mantra, "RAID is not a backup." Well, maybe not on the Intel Communities forum website, but otherwise.

It is clear that there is another a steep learning curve to select an imaging backup approach that will work when a disk fails or some malware wipes out a set of photo files or music I've captured from 78 rpm shellac recordings from 110 years ago.

I'm here to learn. I'm also here to be told, don't trust that software; this approach really works. I hope I will hear something approaching a consensus.

thanks

baumgrenze
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Pro 64Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4 GHz) Quad Core2 x Crucial 4GB Kit (2GBx2) DDR2 CT2KIT25664A...Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 PCIe 512 Mb
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom built by GamePC/Solid Electric - Palo Alto - on 03/10/08
OS
Win 7 Pro 64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4 GHz) Quad Core
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P Intel P35 ATX (rev. 2.1)
Memory
2 x Crucial 4GB Kit (2GBx2) DDR2 CT2KIT25664AA800
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 PCIe 512 Mb
Sound Card
RealTek audio on MOBO + EDIROL UA-1EX
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S24A450BW 24" LED monitor
Screen Resolution
1600 x 1200 at 75 Hz
Hard Drives
2 Crucial 128 Gb SSD (CT128M550SSD1)
one mounted and running Win7/Pro x64
one disconnected containing only Win10/Pro upgrade - in process
1 1TB WD Caviar Black (WD1003FZEX-00MK2A0) (Data drive)
1 2TB Seagate 2TB (PN/ 9JB1N3-576 - ST2000DM001-1ER
PSU
Seasonic S12-HT 650W 80% Efficiency Power Supply
Case
Lian Li PC-B25B
Cooling
Gigabyte Silent-Pipe
Keyboard
Dell MS Comfort
Mouse
HP x4000 wireless
Internet Speed
Sonic FTTN @ 23 Mbps
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
SeaMonkey
Other Info
BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. F6 06/18/2009

System Specs - Updated on 09//16/19
This is my methodology from a painful past of digital loss:

1) SSD "C" drive for OS and Often used Software only
2) HDD for all Data (I actually have 2 drives - Music/Data) (Memeo Sync Plan)
3) External SSD Drive bay with SSD Image of "C" drive (critical BU of OS and Software) (Acronis)
4) HDD BU of Data Internal - Same for Music (Memeo Sync Plan)
5) HDD BU of Data External - Same for Music
6) 3TB HDD BU of Both Data and Music

To me the complexity of Raid and the unreliability of drives has me leaning to the above. I've had my eye on Drobo's but the storage space across all the drives is substantial as is the costs. Then there's the Cloud as well, talk about a off site BU plan. For the cost of all my drives I could have a lifetime subscription to some secure server somewhere.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate 64i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 ...32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64
CPU
i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
Motherboard
MSI P67A-GD80 b3
Memory
32 gb G.Skill Sniper DDR3 10-12-12-31 @ 2133
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon 7870 2GB DDR5
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Z Series Card
Monitor(s) Displays
(2) LG LED 23" 1920 x 1080 2ms Monitors via mini d-port
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050 p
Hard Drives
Samsung 256 gb 830 SSD sata III
(1) 1 tb WD Black
(2) 1 tb Hitachi deskmates/sata II
(2) 1 tb WD green/sata II
(2) 3 tb Seagate Barracuda
(1) 120 gb OCZ Vertex SS
(1) Drobo 5N w/5 Seagate 3tb
PSU
EVGA modular 1000G2 80% gold rating & APC 1200 RS
Case
CoolerMaster Storm Styker
Cooling
7 case fans 140mm & 120mm, NZXT Kraken X60
Keyboard
(2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless
Mouse
Logitech G700 & T-BC21 - nano nx for the laptop
Internet Speed
Basic 120mbps down
Antivirus
Trend Micro Titanium Max Security & Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Chrome and IE 10
Other Info
5 Noctua case fans + 3 Noctua in p/p on NZXT cooler
Integrated hot swap drive bays for 2.5" Drives
(2) Lite-on dvd/cd/Blu Ray optical 22X
Integrated fan controller and led on/off
HP Officejet Pro 8630 all-n-one
Hot-swappable 3.5" hard drive bay
Netgear Nighthawk router
Asus USB 3 & sata 6 PCIe card
Vantec IDE to sata adptr./Ultra sata adptr
Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
Drobo 5N advanced NAS
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