Solved ati radeon 7200 BSOD at power down

grandad69

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Hello, hope someone can help. I'm running an oldish pc with the above graphics card and win7.
All seemed well but I noticed that some displays were slow to load on certain web pages and Windows Experience Index gave the graphics a rating of 1.0. I checked in Device Manager and found that the graphics driver was running the Windows default driver.
After researching some chat forums, I discovered that there were no drivers for this graphics card for Win 7, but one suggested downloading an XP driver and manually installing it. I did this and all seemed fine, now see in Device Manager: Radeon 7000 series driver, version 6.14.10.0.313. However, when shutting down/restarting the pc or if it is left idle I get a Blue Screen of Death, which requires manual intervention to shut down the pc.
I downloaded BluescreenView which tells me that the problem is linked to the ati2dvag.dll with terminal_server_driver_made incorrect_memory_reference.
More researching of forums indicates there are a host of entries for this dll. I followed some leads: downloaded supposed win 7 driver and ran setup.exe. this completed successfully but the driver was unchanged. Tried uninstalling the driver, but windows re-installed the same driver on startup. I downloaded a different version of the dll, replaced the old but regsvr32 failed to run in elevated command mode, so replaced with the original dll.
So, here we are, the graphics work better but I keep getting the BSOD. I'm hesitant to download one of these tools recommended by some techie forums that are supposed to rectify all things known to man because I don't trust them/their motivation. However, if some one can recommend a utility to download that will fix this problem then happy to change my views.
Thanks in anticipation.
 

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Can you show us the BSOD? Try taking a picture of it and post here :) Our BSOD experts will help you
 

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BSOD details

Hi, glad to have you on board, I'm grateful for your help.
I used a utility called Bluescreenview to get the details, I have put the details of one minidump into a word doco which has hopefully uploaded. Let me know if this is insufficient.
 

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Hello grandad69.

Please upload the actual dmp files, you can find those files by opening File Explorer(this ain't IE), type this into the address bar: %SYSTEMROOT%/Minidump

^ And if there are any files there please upload them in a zip file!

Or if what explained above feels too messy/complicated you can use this tool:
Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Posting Instructions

Cheers, Boris :)
 

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Looking at the data in the document the AMD display drivers are suspicious, but we'll need an actual dump file to confirm it.
Software like Bluescreenview and WhoCrashed aren't very reliable so we can't really trust the data they provide which is why we need a dump for confirmation.
 

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BSOD zipped files

Hail Boris and AxeO, I'm grateful for the help.
I used the tool in the forum and the zipped folder is below. It looks like it has collected all the minidumps.
 

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Unfortunately it is only the dumps that are present, there are about 19 other files added when running the tool and these missing files are important.
However, when looking at the BIOS (dated 2004) and your motherboard support page it can be said that there are compatibility issues, even if you're running Windows 7 for some time.
Code:
Machine ID Information [From Smbios 2.3, DMIVersion 35, Size=982]
BiosVendor = Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BiosVersion = 6.00 PG
BiosReleaseDate = 0[COLOR="Red"]7/26/2004[/COLOR]
SystemManufacturer = eMachines
SystemProductName = MS-6714
SystemVersion = PCB 5.0
BaseBoardManufacturer = MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
BaseBoardProduct = MS-6714
BaseBoardVersion = PCB 5.0

Please fill in your system specs to remove the 'unknown' parts :)
Please follow this tutorial and download the tool. The tool will give you detailed information about your system specs, please fill in your system specs more completely.
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Updated system specs

Hello axe0, thanks for the reply.
I used the DM Log Collector tool to collect the info you wanted, I watched all the steps in the command line window and all completed ok. At the end there is a message which tells you that the info has been saved to a zipped folder on the desktop, this is what I uploaded. I have run it again today and it did exactly the same thing, the folder only contains dmp files, nothing else. The command line window doesn't tell you where all the other copied files are put otherwise I would upload them as well ... sorry, just doing what I'm told as I don't know any better. :)
I have run the tool to collect the system info and used the auto process to upload the details to My Specs. It looks ok, although the tool doesn't seem to collect everything.
Grateful for all your help and worried about BIOS/motherboard disparity.
 

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Update

Hello axe0, hope you managed to get a rest over Easter.
Just to check are you saying the my problem is caused by compatibility issues between the bios and the motherboard? I had a quick look and updates for this bios don't seem to be easy to come by?
Thanks.
 

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AMD Radeon HD8370D
Sound Card
Realtek AC'97 Audio
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0 x 0 x 0 bits (0 colors) @ 0 Hz
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ST500LX003-1AC15G (2) Generic USB CF Reader USB Device (3) Generic USB MS Reader USB Device (4) Generic USB SD Reader USB Device (5) Generic USB SM Reader USB Device
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I think the problem is incompatibility with Windows 7 and your hardware (motherboard and/or possible other components).
 

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Hello axe0, thanks for the input. What would you do in my place. This only came about because I updated the drivers on the graphics card, shall I try a new graphics card as I'm loathe to move on from Windows 7. Hopefully, I wont have to replace the pc even though it is old?
Thanks for all your help.
 

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unknown
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
CPU
AMD A4-6300 APU 3.70HGz
Memory
4.00 GB
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AMD Radeon HD8370D
Sound Card
Realtek AC'97 Audio
Screen Resolution
0 x 0 x 0 bits (0 colors) @ 0 Hz
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ST500LX003-1AC15G (2) Generic USB CF Reader USB Device (3) Generic USB MS Reader USB Device (4) Generic USB SD Reader USB Device (5) Generic USB SM Reader USB Device
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Old hardware may fail suddenly, you need to keep an eye on the health and status of your hardware where you can if you're not planning on replacing.
 

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Hello axe0, I really appreciate you taking the time to check out the problems I'm having.

Sorry to be thick, but I want to get my head round what you are saying before I close this thread down.

From what you have seen it is the installation of W7 on the motherboard/bios combination in my pc that is causing the BSOD (I thought W7 did compatibility checks before installation?) and nothing to do with the updating of the graphics adapter driver that I carried out?
There is nothing I can do ie upgrading the bios (if possible), changing the graphics adapter, or upgrading the os that will correct the situation, the only thing to do is to replace the pc?
Many thanks.
 

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PC/Desktop
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unknown
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
CPU
AMD A4-6300 APU 3.70HGz
Memory
4.00 GB
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AMD Radeon HD8370D
Sound Card
Realtek AC'97 Audio
Screen Resolution
0 x 0 x 0 bits (0 colors) @ 0 Hz
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ST500LX003-1AC15G (2) Generic USB CF Reader USB Device (3) Generic USB MS Reader USB Device (4) Generic USB SD Reader USB Device (5) Generic USB SM Reader USB Device
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Your motherboard is incompatible with Windows 7, your BIOS cannot be updated to a version compatible for Windows 7.
There is no certainty that incompatibility has anything to do with the cause or being the cause, but it can and in most cases will complicate things and could make it impossible to fix the problems you're experiencing.
 

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Windows 10 Proi5-650016GB DDR4 2133 Crucial Ballistix Sport LTMSI GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING X 6G
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Custom build
OS
Windows 10 Pro
CPU
i5-6500
Motherboard
Gigabyte B150-HD3P-CF
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16GB DDR4 2133 Crucial Ballistix Sport LT
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING X 6G
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Intel Display Audio
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Liyama ProLite XB2483HSU-B2
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Corsair RM550x
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Fractal Design Define S
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Func KB-460 (MX Red)
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Corsair Gaming M65 RGB
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Bitdefender Total Security 2016 + MBAM Pro + MBAE Pro
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Thanks

axe0, thanks for your patience, I am purchasing a new pc at long last.
 

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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
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AMD A4-6300 APU 3.70HGz
Memory
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Sound Card
Realtek AC'97 Audio
Screen Resolution
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