Bit of a dilemma with MSE

[PooMan UK]

I have a customer of mine who is an aged farmer who lives out in the sticks.
The problem I'm having is that he lives in an area that has no broadband and no mobile internet access.
He recently purchased a new PC from me as he has to log his livestocks passports for travel purposes to and from the market. This has now moved to an on-line process hence the reason for him purchasing a PC.
So he has no choice but to use dial-up (which also disables his use of the only phone line he has)
The thing is windows updates are causing his internet connection to time out as the files are so large and this also causes his mail to seize up.
He uses MSE for security, and MS office for a simple excel spread sheet that needs to be updated and emailed. And he has to log on once a day to the internet to check a few things on his livestock sales etc.
Is there any way to disable windows updates for office and windows but allow MSE to update automatically or does he have to update MSE manually each day ? (remember the poor bugger struggles to turn the PC on and for the first month I was there daily to fill in the 10 or so lines into the spread sheet and mail them, but he seems to have got the hang of it now)
I don't mind bringing his PC to my office to do monthly windows/office updates, but I would prefer for his anti-virus to be daily updated automatically as 3 other Farmers in the same area have been infected recently via email so I just wanted to keep the costs down of me going out to him so often and keep him happy and show him that I can be of service.

Thanks

Nick

 

[Golden]

G'day Nick,

I wonder if this might work?

Turn OFF ALL updates, but setup MSE as shown in the image below - setup a schedule scan each morning, and also check the option to run an update of the spyware definitions.

My understanding is that MSE will still update its defintions, as it runs separately from Windows Update.

Regards,
Golden

 

[DavidE]

I have MSE setup to check for virus definitions every 4 hours in Task Scheduler. I believe you could set it up to check at whatever time you want in Task Scheduler.

Let me know if you want my Task Scheduler details...

 

[PooMan UK]

Golden pal your a Star, thanks I'll give it a whirl

Also thanks David for the offer

I'll post back on how I get on

 

[Jacee]

Having been on 'dial-up' for 5 years (live in the boonies) the best thing to do, is update MSE manually when he dosen't need to use the computer immediately!
He can do these updates in the evening, or when he's doing his chores.

It also depends on the dialup ISP connection. I think I went through all of them to find one that wouldn't disconnect me when downloading updates.

 

[Anak]

David's Task scheduler tip would be the best way to go, it even suggests it in this page I found that has this MSE Update tool: MSE Update Utility [AddictiveTips Apps]

 

[CB]

Hi Nick.
About windows update for MS Office, I remember it was prompted on MS Office first run, I can choose not to change/update. And most likely windows won't include it on its update routines.

Hope I'm not mistaken.

Kevin

 

[DavidE]

Using MSE scheduled scan would be the easiest option, but consider...
A missed MSE scheduled scan (and update) does not "run later" if the PC is not on at the scheduled time.
I don't know what it would do if it is on, but the network (dial-up) is not available.
Hopefully it would just end the task silently...

Task Scheduler does have these options:
"Start only if the following network connection is available"
"Run task as soon as possible after a scheduled start is missed"

I've never used the combination of options you might prefer to use in this case, and i don't have dial-up...

 

[Qdos]

He needs a laptop, which he can run updates on when he's not at home and has access to a higher speed hotspot, and upon which he can run an online anti-virus scan such as NOD32 which is far better than MSE anyway.

I'd forget an onboard anti-virus completely. Slap all his archives onto a secondary partition from the OS, and use Windows Backup after every set of updates.

 

[Anak]

(remember the poor bugger struggles to turn the PC on and for the first month I was there daily to fill in the 10 or so lines into the spread sheet and mail them, but he seems to have got the hang of it now)

keep him happy and show him that I can be of service.

Thanks

Nick

Gentlemen!, Ladies! let us try to remember the K.I.S.S method.

Are we helping PooMan or his neighbor? This is getting entirely too complicated.

 

[PooMan UK]

I finally managed to go round and try out some of the suggestions. So I'de just like to give you an update.
Thanks to all for the assistance unfortunately I'm still where I started as the problem still persists. ....

Having been on 'dial-up' for 5 years (live in the boonies) the best thing to do, is update MSE manually when he dosen't need to use the computer immediately!
He can do these updates in the evening, or when he's doing his chores.

It also depends on the dialup ISP connection. I think I went through all of them to find one that wouldn't disconnect me when downloading updates.

This seems to be my only option at present ....

David's Task scheduler tip would be the best way to go, it even suggests it in this page I found that has this MSE Update tool: MSE Update Utility [AddictiveTips Apps]

This didn't work as his dial up needed to be running before the schedule could kick in.

He needs a laptop, which he can run updates on when he's not at home and has access to a higher speed hotspot, and upon which he can run an online anti-virus scan such as NOD32 which is far better than MSE anyway.

I'd forget an onboard anti-virus completely. Slap all his archives onto a secondary partition from the OS, and use Windows Backup after every set of updates.

pal ... please like I said he's a farmer :sarc: the closest he gets to a hotspot is when the sun is shining on his barn

(remember the poor bugger struggles to turn the PC on and for the first month I was there daily to fill in the 10 or so lines into the spread sheet and mail them, but he seems to have got the hang of it now)

keep him happy and show him that I can be of service.

Thanks

Nick

Gentlemen!, Ladies! let us try to remember the K.I.S.S method.

Are we helping PooMan or his neighbor? This is getting entirely too complicated.

Thanks Anak pal you seem to know where I'm coming from ....

It looks like he's just going to have get into the habit of doing updates manually, and I'll do the windows updates from my office periodically

Regards

Nick

 

[Anak]

Has anyone thought of the cost to the Farmers?
To the Market Vendors, and Government it is no big deal, the internet?, we've been doing that for years.
But to the Farmers, yes.

Has anyone in charge taken the time to check if the local CO-OP has web access?
Provisions should of been made to help the Farmers until they got up to speed.

Can your friend gather, and go to the co-op for them to send the livestock reports to the Market?
Maybe even a nearby University, School Library. Agreed, it still takes the time to compile the reports, but he could send someone in his stead to file.

I am only going by your Wales Flag, but if I were him, and you, I would send a letter to the Prince of Wales to see if anything can be done.
If it were me I'd raise a stink.


Old site, but links are still useful: BBC - South West Wales - Useful Links - Farming
I would of looked further, but I am deficient in your customs.