BSOD - + lots of app crashes - 6 months of crashes...

[Dariusz]

Ehhh hell ! :- )

Anyway

I bought new GPU. Titan X. Plug it in. Hell begun. Crash after crash nightmare. Anyway 6 months down the line I tried

2x CPu
2x Mobo
2xRam
2x PSu
3x GPu
5xHDD

And errors still happen...

So here are some of errors... any hints as to what is wrong? :- )

The program VREDPro.exe version 8.0.4.8037 stopped interacting with Windows and was closed. To see if more information about the problem is available, check the problem history in the Action Center control panel.
Process ID: 3d9c
Start Time: 01d1383392215cbf
Termination Time: 1237
Application Path: C:\Program Files\Autodesk\VREDPro-8.04\bin\WIN64\VREDPro.exe
Report Id: 7c1b1df5-a432-11e5-827a-305a3a774064

- System

- Provider

[ Name] Application Hang

- EventID 1002

[ Qualifiers] 0

Level 2

Task 101

Keywords 0x80000000000000

- TimeCreated

[ SystemTime] 2015-12-16T20:33:33.000000000Z

EventRecordID 6832

Channel Application

Computer Master-PC

Security


- EventData

VREDPro.exe
8.0.4.8037
3d9c
01d1383392215cbf
1237
C:\Program Files\Autodesk\VREDPro-8.04\bin\WIN64\VREDPro.exe
7c1b1df5-a432-11e5-827a-305a3a774064
55006E006B006E006F0077006E0000000000


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Binary data:


In Words

0000: 006E0055 006E006B 0077006F 0000006E
0008: 0000


In Bytes

0000: 55 00 6E 00 6B 00 6E 00 U.n.k.n.
0008: 6F 00 77 00 6E 00 00 00 o.w.n...
0010: 00 00 ..


Next one:

The program Smite.exe version 2.20.3137.0 stopped interacting with Windows and was closed. To see if more information about the problem is available, check the problem history in the Action Center control panel.
Process ID: 3ed8
Start Time: 01d1381bf764c542
Termination Time: 37
Application Path: F:\Apps\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\smite\binaries\Win32\Smite.exe
Report Id: 4d0375e8-a410-11e5-827a-305a3a774064

- System

- Provider

[ Name] Application Hang

- EventID 1002

[ Qualifiers] 0

Level 2

Task 101

Keywords 0x80000000000000

- TimeCreated

[ SystemTime] 2015-12-16T16:16:05.000000000Z

EventRecordID 6782

Channel Application

Computer Master-PC

Security


- EventData

Smite.exe
2.20.3137.0
3ed8
01d1381bf764c542
37
F:\Apps\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\smite\binaries\Win32\Smite.exe
4d0375e8-a410-11e5-827a-305a3a774064
55006E006B006E006F0077006E0000000000


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Binary data:


In Words

0000: 006E0055 006E006B 0077006F 0000006E
0008: 0000


In Bytes

0000: 55 00 6E 00 6B 00 6E 00 U.n.k.n.
0008: 6F 00 77 00 6E 00 00 00 o.w.n...
0010: 00 00 ..


Help please :- )

Hardware

i7 5960x
Asus X99WS-E & Asus X99WS-E USB 3.1
2x PSU 1200W + both
Hdds, M.2 SAmsung sm951 512 gb, some random SSD 256 gb + 3x old hdds
ram = 64 gb Corsair PLX 2400 mghz
GPU = EVGA TITAN X 2x, GTX 680 Classified 4 gb

The same tasks I can run on my laptop 100% stable... I just dont know how to fix my workstation :- ((

 

[Pauly]

http://www.sevenforums.com/bsod-help-support/96879-blue-screen-death-bsod-posting-instructions.html

 

[Dariusz]

Dont have any BSOD's, did format yesterday...mmm maybe bit longer than yesterday :- ) :- ( Only got crashes for now. But that prog did find some issues . I'll post them asap !

Added file to 1st post, thank sorry for missing it !

With vred hangs is during the render. Software render for random number of time get to random % and then it hangs. CPU then drops from 99% to 6-12% and stays there for ever :- ( THis never happen before in last 3 years :- (


Another error hang :

Description:
A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows.

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: AppHangB1
Application Name: VREDPro.exe
Application Version: 8.0.4.8037
Application Timestamp: 563a90e0
Hang Signature: 4907
Hang Type: 0
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
Locale ID: 2057
Additional Hang Signature 1: 490779c2273b7cfea85d3405fb859964
Additional Hang Signature 2: e6e9
Additional Hang Signature 3: e6e90f4584b72fd3a4ea449021da75a9
Additional Hang Signature 4: 4907
Additional Hang Signature 5: 490779c2273b7cfea85d3405fb859964
Additional Hang Signature 6: e6e9
Additional Hang Signature 7: e6e90f4584b72fd3a4ea449021da75a9

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[Pauly]

Unfortunately there are only two dumps in your upload, one is a 0x124 error but the dump is corrupt so analysis of it will not complete
The other is a 0x117 Video TDR error (basically the same as a 0x116) blaming your NVidia drivers for the crash (driver dated Nov 14)

I'm sure you have tried much of this already but I will list some of the things you can try

Reset bios to defaults and/or update bios
Uninstall/reinstall driver using http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/83814-drivers-clean-left-over-files-after-uninstalling.html
Uninstall the driver as above and try an older/different version
Run Furmark to stress test your gfx card and check for any temperature issues
Confirm DX version installed

Heres a handy guide for info on 0x116/117 errors with lots of info links
http://www.sevenforums.com/crash-lo...op-0x116-video_tdr_error-troubleshooting.html

On a slight side note I notice you have a couple pieces of hardware that do not have drivers installed

View attachment 378101

 

[Dariusz]

Hey

Thanks for info !

I just did another format. As in last 6 months I always used the 2 DVD I got from MS with windows and that they are from 2009 I decided to download new ISO and try never version. I did a lot of reinstall/driver reinstall sadly nothing helps. Even now with fresh windows and few programs installed I'm getting app hangs :- ((( such nightmare!

Is there any way that I can provide you the apphang details?

The devices missing drivers are now disabled.

Weirdest stuff ever.

I installed windows
Nvidia drivers
Restart
It hangs on loading logo screen and it appers to be frozen crashed. How on earth did it crash on windows load :- ((( with nothing more than windows and drivers :- (

I have 12 gb DMP file from crashed app. Is there any way I can strip it down and send it to you for analisys ?

Regards

Dariusz

 

[Dariusz]

Hey

Got another error. This time luckily it was blue screen. Maybe it will tell us something more ! :- )

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
Locale ID: 2057

Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 7a
BCP1: FFFFF6FC5007A5B0
BCP2: FFFFFFFFC0000185
BCP3: 0000000051F75880
BCP4: FFFFF8A00F4B66C8
OS Version: 6_1_7601
Service Pack: 1_0
Product: 256_1

 

[Pauly]

Last error is a 0x7A KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR

This is generally related to memory problems - HDD (pagefile) or RAM but can also be caused by storage controller errors/bad sata cables etc

The fact it happens after such a fresh install can only mean you are carrying across a bad driver or the issue is hardware related, did you try different/older gfx drivers to see if any improvements ?

Not really 100% what to suggest other than working through hardware tests to confirm functionality of components starting with HDD & RAM
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/105647-ram-test-memtest86.html


Im going to post this thread to the rest of the BSOD team and see if any of them have any thoughts

 

[Dariusz]

Yeah tricky!

I tried up to 5 hhds.

M.2 Samsung sm951 512 gb
SSD samsung something
WD RE 3 500gb
Etc etc

Its very frustrating.

As I have now second brand new from shop ram 8 gb and is getting errors. No matter what HDD/driver I try to get./install I get apphangs :- (

I noticed that the page file was indeed being corrupted by something as after restart my license for software did not work. Not until I found out in Local > Security > something to wipe out virtual memory/page file on each restart which fixed the problem. < Scratch that still got licensing errors :- ((

Currently windows is on M.2 so there are no cables :- (

It feels that any longer renders 5-10min+ and I will get apphang. Anything short mostly works without a problem...

Regards

Dariusz

 

[essenbe]

Dariusz, have you tried installing without the M.2 installed? When your motherboard was made, there were no M.2 SSDs, so it is possible the M.2 is not supported.

Also, please go into your BIOS and give us the values of the +12V, +5V and +3.3V.

Have you tried a different graphics card in your computer? If so, which one, and did you have the same problems?

 

[Dariusz]

Hey

The m.2 socket is on the motherboard. The driver was already talked about on net and it is "supported". Beside It was working for 3 months 100% stable with no issues at all.

It only started when I replaced my GPU from GTX 680 to Titan X both EVGA gpus.

One thought keep moving in my head is if I have some kind of weird static damage that is in my case like virus... its weird right? :- )

I tried

EVGA GTX 680 Classified 4 gb
EVGA TITAN X SC
EVGA TITAN X SC

Yeah 2x Titan x. Always have issues.

For some time I moved the TITAN X to my old wokstation for 2 weeks. Had 0 problems all was stable like hell. So I dont think its card related! :- (

Now I cant even boot. The windows just stops at booting logo. Had to reset it now 4x before it went in. Alsso some times The PC wont even go past initial bios stage. Just give me that American Something logo and all stays black .Started when I added CIntiq 27 to the system that has USB connection...

I will do another format today. But this time I will put my GTX 680 in and do it using my old GPU. Will see if I can get the system stable on my old GPU. If it will be stable then it means the MOBO is incompatible with GPU maybe, not sure!

Thanks for help info !

I have tried 2x PSU so I don't think its PSU related... will get you voltages soon.

Unless both of my PSU's drops the voltage. But then the second PSU is supporting 2x Xeon system OC to 4ghz 6 core for past 4 years and it was 100% stable.

 

[essenbe]

Just for a test, when you do the clean install, let Windows install as many drivers as it will and use those. Do not install any software at all, use Microsoft Security essentials ((http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/security-essentials-download) for an AV. Install the Nvidia driver, but select Custom install, make sure the 'Clean Install' box is checked and install only the Display Driver and the PhysX driver, nothing else. See if that is any better. Just as close to a pure Windows install and nothing else as we can get. Then run all of the Updates. You may have to install the LAN driver if Windows doesn't.

 

[Dariusz]

Just for a test, when you do the clean install, let Windows install as many drivers as it will and use those. Do not install any software at all, use Microsoft Security essentials ((http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/security-essentials-download) for an AV. Install the Nvidia driver, but select Custom install, make sure the 'Clean Install' box is checked and install only the Display Driver and the PhysX driver, nothing else. See if that is any better. Just as close to a pure Windows install and nothing else as we can get. Then run all of the Updates. You may have to install the LAN driver if Windows doesn't.

I did

2x:
Install Windows
Let all updates update Except for Nvidia drivets
Install Drivers

more than 5x:

Install Windows
Let all updates update Except for Nvidia drivets
Install Drivers
Install Vred
Install PS
Install 1 game.

Start them all.

With no Antivirus or anything. Just basic stuff.

I even installed windows, dint update, added vred, ps and crashed it then...

I just updated by bios to newest version. Will see if that helps.

If no I will do ur suggestion tomorrow or so. Sadly I only have 2 days left then I'm going away for xmass :- ((( so I will be back to this issue later on.

Anyway thanks for help !

 

[Dariusz]

Just for a test, when you do the clean install, let Windows install as many drivers as it will and use those. Do not install any software at all, use Microsoft Security essentials ((http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/security-essentials-download) for an AV. Install the Nvidia driver, but select Custom install, make sure the 'Clean Install' box is checked and install only the Display Driver and the PhysX driver, nothing else. See if that is any better. Just as close to a pure Windows install and nothing else as we can get. Then run all of the Updates. You may have to install the LAN driver if Windows doesn't.

Hey

Back to testing!

You have confused me a little bit here soo... Here is what I did

1st connected my old trusted PSU, used brand new RAM and new HDD I purchased for testing.

I wonder if I Had static/power surge damage that damaged all components when I put in new GPU... anyway.


Install windows including SP1
Install NVidia drivers
Install Vred
Run render for 24h
100% stable.
Install all Updates from windows update centre.
run Render for 24h.
100% stable.

Install chipset drivers

Run render for 24h 100% stable.

Install USB drivers, restart. Crash on boot up.

Restart

Started up.

Shut down.

Start up again + smash delete key to go to bios.

Fail to boot, only got American Megatrends logo and blank frozen screen.

I figured I would go to bios and check USB settings and my razer mouse was not responding when I changed USB port.

Anyway.

Back to windows, started vred render left it for 5h 100%stable.

Now I was suspecting that the crash happens with user input. So I actually had to do stuff on PC otherwise it passess all the tests. In any case.

5h down the test I plugged in my phone to USB 2.0 port to charge up. 10 seconds later crash.

Looks to me like its USB drivers related issue but not sure.

BSOD was 024 which related to HDD.. .frustrating ! As its brand new SSD!

Attached the file.

I will run another test in a minute. Same set up start render. Let cpu hit 100% for 10-20 min and I'll try plugging in my phone again.

If it crash then I will uninstall intell USB 3.0 drivers. Will see if that will help.

Thanks every one for help !

Regards

Dariusz

Update

So the render is going 100% I plugged in my phone and it did not crash... ehh..

BUT Before I plug in my phone I was looking at screen and all over sudden I got this ! > Attached <
DSC_0025.jpg

So yea wow. Out of nowhere I got this :- ( and then I could not shut down LCD using LCD on/off button ! Its like the software was crashed ! I unplugged the main power/plug in back in LCD went back to normal.

On top of that the render still goes 100% and phone connected fine ehhh !

 

[essenbe]

I'll look at the files in a minute. But, if you mean an 0X124 BSOD, that does not mean a hard drive. It means a hardware error of some type or a very bad driver that causes the hardware to act like it is failing/has failed.

That was why I asked not to install anything other than what Windows installs. To try to be reasonably assured that it is a hardware problem and not a driver problem. Also, when you say Render, that sounds like a graphics program. You need to test for stability with a program such as Prime95, AIDA, Intel Burn Test or something made for stability. Those programs are designed to test for system stability. Graphics stability can be done with a program like Ungine Heaven or Furmark.

 

[essenbe]

NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM (24)
    If you see NtfsExceptionFilter on the stack then the 2nd and 3rd
    parameters are the exception record and context record. Do a .cxr
    on the 3rd parameter and then kb to obtain a more informative stack
    trace.
Arguments:
Arg1: 00000000001904fb
Arg2: fffff8800a681148
Arg3: fffff8800a6809a0
Arg4: fffff80002c8b4a5
Debugging Details:

CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT:  1
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
[COLOR=red]PROCESS_NAME:  DeviceDisplayO[/COLOR]

Where did you get the ISO file you installed with?

Please open an elevated command prompt ( click start, type cmd in the search box, right click on the cmd entry and select run as administrator) in the black box that opens, copy/paste sfc /scannow. If you decide to type it, notice the space between the sfc and the /. It is a system file checker which will scan your system files and attempt to correct any missing or corrupt files. What we want are the results to say windows found no integrity violations. If it says files were found but could not be repaired, close the box, reboot and run it again, after opening the administrative command prompt. You may have to reboot and run it three times for it to repair all system files. If it can't repair them after 3 reboots, let us know.

 

[Dariusz]

Hey

Thanks for fast reply !

The error is 000000024 more or less 0os..

The windows I got from.
1x DVD Backup from digital purchase from microsoft store
1x DVD Backup from digital purchase from microsoft store
they are from around 2009 year more or less.

Lately I tried to download another one from microsoft web but upon typing my serrials on MS website I was presented with korean and some other language versions only.. which is pretty weird as I bought my windowsses off UK MS store...

anyway I downloaded latest SP I could find from "internet" and used trial to install for testing purposes...

I tried sfc /scannow lots of time. Never fix anything.

The erros I'm getting are always random :- ((

The last one points to Display ? so the LCD can cause crash? I read somewhere that it is possible but uhh...

I'm so freaked that I already replaced every sata cable, DVI cable, HDMI, display port etc etc to brand new ones...

The renders that I run are CPU based so math calculation. I did stress test the system for 48h using different programs and different programs running at the same time. They do not cause crash. Only time when I crash is when I use the system actively like workstation. ;- (

I run like 14 copies of heavens benchmark, Aida stress, prime, memtesst and some other at the same time. cpu, ram gpu all was 100% even hdds. But 48h later I start clicking and doing stuff and I get crash ! :- ( In chrome browsing 9gag :- (

 

[Dariusz]

That was why I asked not to install anything other than what Windows installs.

Currently all I have is :

Windows
NV drivers
all windows updates that were recommended and optional.
Chipset drivers
USB drivers- that caused crash sort off maybe well it failed to do 1st boot up after installation?

Were I meant not to install windows updates? I did test using only windows + NV drivers but the render was 100% stable. So I guess must be driver issue?

 

[essenbe]

I would never use a download except from Microsoft. Anything else is usually a cracked copy and you don't know what has been done with it. Official Microsoft download are few and far between now. Use the Microsoft DVD and just do all of the Updates including SP1. That is the only way you will know for sure that the install is complete and correct. Windows Update will install most of the drivers other than USB 3.0. Do without that for a while until you see if the problem is the same. Once you find it stable, add one driver or program at a time, testing in between, to make sure it is stable. That is the long way around, I know. But, if you do it that way, when you start having problems again, you will know exactly which driver or program caused it.

Don't install anything at first other than Microsoft Security Essentials. It is the only AV that has never caused a BSOD. You have replaced almost everything in the computer except the Motherboard as I recall. It is possible that is the problem. Are you absolutely certain you do not have a bent CPU socket pin? That can cause all kinds of problems. Yes, it is possible a monitor caused the BSOD, but extremely unlikely. To Windows, usually a display device is the graphics card. If you will go to Device Manager and look under Display Adapters, you will see your Graphics card listed.

 

[Dariusz]

I would never use a download except from Microsoft. Anything else is usually a cracked copy and you don't know what has been done with it. Official Microsoft download are few and far between now. Use the Microsoft DVD and just do all of the Updates including SP1. That is the only way you will know for sure that the install is complete and correct. Windows Update will install most of the drivers other than USB 3.0. Do without that for a while until you see if the problem is the same. Once you find it stable, add one driver or program at a time, testing in between, to make sure it is stable. That is the long way around, I know. But, if you do it that way, when you start having problems again, you will know exactly which driver or program caused it.

Don't install anything at first other than Microsoft Security Essentials. It is the only AV that has never caused a BSOD. You have replaced almost everything in the computer except the Motherboard as I recall. It is possible that is the problem. Are you absolutely certain you do not have a bent CPU socket pin? That can cause all kinds of problems. Yes, it is possible a monitor caused the BSOD, but extremely unlikely. To Windows, usually a display device is the graphics card. If you will go to Device Manager and look under Display Adapters, you will see your Graphics card listed.

Hey

Agree 100% regarding source of ISO. But it was from link from some website like Technology reviews, advice, videos, news and forums - PC Advisor or tomshardware. Not sure it was more than a week a go. But I did not think it was a dodgy copy as then they would have a lot of problem with MS I'd imagine... still yeah the chance exists...

Anyway this is exactly what I did now. Installing 1 by 1 driver and testing in between. Latests driver that I put in was USB but also I did more than just render. As I went on seven forum and connected my phone... but not sure as it did crash on 1st restart after USB driver installation.

Will uninstall the USB drivers and run tests again. Its very hard to diagnose it as every format, different error happens and its all un-repeatable :- (

Thanks for help ! Will let you know how it goes without drivers.

Regards

Dariusz

 

[essenbe]

The versions you were offered, if one was Windows 7N, that is the EU version and most likely the one you have or should have in the UK. It is everything except Media Center and ie, I think. That was caused by an EU court decision forcing MSFT to remove them. I think that is the only difference. I can find the 'Media Refresh' installer that replaces everything removed making it be the same as the US version even though it will say the N version.