Solved BSOD while randomly using computer after replacing motherboard + CPU

YpsiNine

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Greetings,

Thanks for having me. I want to ask for help on a random BSOD experience I am having with my computer.

I am quite frustrated after replacing my motherboard and CPU since I'm experiencing random BSOD's now 3-5 times per week. My old motherboard (a Z87) was RMA'd so I figured I could upgrade the CPU at the same time, so now I am on the Z97 platform. Also, I am not overclocking the system, everything is running at stock speeds. This is on a fresh installation of Windows.


What I've done to try to fix it:
  • Ran Memtest86+ for 8 passes without any errors
  • Updated all drivers to the latest versions
  • Updated the motherboard BIOS to the latest version
  • Disabled the Atheros Killer on-board network card and using an Intel PCI-E card instead
  • Reading a lot on the net (forums etc) to try to understand where the problem is
  • Uninstalled Windows twice and did a fresh install both times, to no avail
Basically I am at a point now where I want to just throw the darn thing out of the window. I consider myself quite skilled with computers (I work as an IT-consultant) and so this is extra painful for me, not being able to solve this problem.

I am using the exact same hardware parts that I was using with the old motherboard + CPU and I never had a random BSOD on that system. The only difference with this system now, is the replaced motherboard + new CPU.

The .zip file contains only 1 dump file, but I've probably have had 50+ BSOD's since Windows was installed ~1 month ago. Sometimes the files are not created, and other times I've simply deleted them because the problem was obvious (like the Killer network card). The dump file in the .zip has the 7F bugcheck code (UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP), but other common bugchecks have been:
  • 0A (IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL)
  • 24 (NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM)
  • D1 (DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL)
  • 1E (KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED)
...and almost all of them point to ntoskrnl.exe which is why I am unable to find the problem.


I am attaching the .zip file as per the instructions. Apologies for the long post.

Any input will be greatly appreciated.

Best,
Martin
 

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Windows 7 Professional x64
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Intel Core i7 4790k
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MSI Z97 Gaming 7
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Corsair Dominator GT 16GB (4x4GB CMT16GX3M4X2133C9)
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MSI GTX 970 Gaming
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S/PDIF out to external DAC (Atoll HD100)
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256GB Samsung 850 Pro, 2x3TB WD Red (Raid 1)
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YpsiNine, let's not throw it out the window quite yet. let's see if we can find out what is the problem. Please do a couple of things for me. There was not much to go on in your dump file. What it shows is a double fault, which normally is a bad driveror hardware. I am sure you know your settings in BIOS, if not make sure of what your sata controller is set to (IDE,AHCI or Raid). Get the manufacturer's specs for the ram, you will need the frequency, timings and voltage. Set your bios to optimized defaults, set your sata controller to what it is right now, set your ram to Manufacturer's specs for timings, frequency and Dram voltage, set your boot order, save and exit.

If you do not already have it, please install CPUz (CPU-Z CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting) and post screenshots (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/9733-screenshots-files-upload-post-seven-forums.html) of the CPU, mainboard, Memory and SPD tabs. On the SPD tabs, you can select each Dimm Slot in the upper left of the tab, just post the Dimms populated with ram.

Also, please make sure your computer is set for small memory dumps
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/174459-dump-files-configure-windows-create-bsod.html

That should set everything in order. Let's take a look at the set up and see if everything is as it should be.

Please also, hold down the windows key (the one with the flag) and press R, in the run box that opens, type msconfig and press OK. Please click on the startup tab and uncheck everything except Security essentials and Windows Sidebar press apply and OK. Reboot and see how you do.

I would also like to know your CPU Cooler, what your CPU temps are and your GPU temps. If you need software to read them, just let me know. Please use programs that will give you a constant reading of the temps. Also in BIOS please tell me the values of the +12V, +5V and +3.3V.

This may all sound elementary to you, and it is. But, it should give me an idea of a baseline of what we are looking at.
If you have any questions or want any explanations, feel free to ask. I don't mind explaining at all.
 

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    1 TB NVME
essenbe, thanks a lot for your reply. Let's get down to it.

YpsiNine, let's not throw it out the window quite yet. let's see if we can find out what is the problem. Please do a couple of things for me. There was not much to go on in your dump file. What it shows is a double fault, which normally is a bad driveror hardware. I am sure you know your settings in BIOS, if not make sure of what your sata controller is set to (IDE,AHCI or Raid). Get the manufacturer's specs for the ram, you will need the frequency, timings and voltage. Set your bios to optimized defaults, set your sata controller to what it is right now, set your ram to Manufacturer's specs for timings, frequency and Dram voltage, set your boot order, save and exit.
Done. The SATA controller is set to Raid (I am using a Raid 1 setup on my WD Red NAS drives). All RAM timings are running per manufacturer's spec (2133 MHz @ 9-11-10-27 2T @ 1.5V). Again to emphasize, this is the exact same timings used with the previous motherboard, and also Memtest86+ does not show any errors through at least 8 passes.

If you do not already have it, please install CPUz (CPU-Z CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting) and post screenshots (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/9733-screenshots-files-upload-post-seven-forums.html) of the CPU, mainboard, Memory and SPD tabs. On the SPD tabs, you can select each Dimm Slot in the upper left of the tab, just post the Dimms populated with ram.
Done. Here are the first 3 CPU-z items you asked for:
View attachment 341119

Then the SPD tabs:
View attachment 341120

Done. It was set to Kernel memory dump, so I changed it to small.

That should set everything in order. Let's take a look at the set up and see if everything is as it should be.

Please also, hold down the windows key (the one with the flag) and press R, in the run box that opens, type msconfig and press OK. Please click on the startup tab and uncheck everything except Security essentials and Windows Sidebar press apply and OK. Reboot and see how you do.
Done. Let's see if it changes anything.

I would also like to know your CPU Cooler, what your CPU temps are and your GPU temps. If you need software to read them, just let me know. Please use programs that will give you a constant reading of the temps. Also in BIOS please tell me the values of the +12V, +5V and +3.3V.
Sorry about not filling in my spec properly, I've added it now. It's a Cooler Master Nepton 140XL, which is a liquid cooler (for the CPU), I am also using Noctua case fans. Here are the temperatures, at idle (at load the CPU maxes out at about roughly ~70'C):
View attachment 341121

And then voltages (from BIOS, please look at the bottom of the picture):
View attachment 341122

This may all sound elementary to you, and it is. But, it should give me an idea of a baseline of what we are looking at.
If you have any questions or want any explanations, feel free to ask. I don't mind explaining at all.
Thanks but so far I am following you. :)

Best,
Martin
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 4790k
Motherboard
MSI Z97 Gaming 7
Memory
Corsair Dominator GT 16GB (4x4GB CMT16GX3M4X2133C9)
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX 970 Gaming
Sound Card
S/PDIF out to external DAC (Atoll HD100)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2713HM
Screen Resolution
2560x1440
Hard Drives
256GB Samsung 850 Pro, 2x3TB WD Red (Raid 1)
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EVGA Supernova G2 750W
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NZXT H440
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Cooler Master Nepton 140XL
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Func KB-460
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Steelseries Rival
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Microsoft Security Essentials
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Ryzen 9 5900X
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    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
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    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
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    EVGA 850
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Intel Ultra 9 288V
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    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
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    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
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    1 TB NVME
Make sure you have a folder in C:/Windows named Minidump. If you do not, create one. If you have another BSOD, please run the
http://www.sevenforums.com/bsod-help-support/96879-blue-screen-death-bsod-posting-instructions.html again. Use option 2 and press the 'Grab All' button then give it time to do it's collection and let's see what it says.
essenbe,

Yes I already have that folder. I will wait for the next BSOD, then run the program again as you instructed. Thanks!
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 4790k
Motherboard
MSI Z97 Gaming 7
Memory
Corsair Dominator GT 16GB (4x4GB CMT16GX3M4X2133C9)
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX 970 Gaming
Sound Card
S/PDIF out to external DAC (Atoll HD100)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2713HM
Screen Resolution
2560x1440
Hard Drives
256GB Samsung 850 Pro, 2x3TB WD Red (Raid 1)
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EVGA Supernova G2 750W
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Func KB-460
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Would you check in BIOS and see what the CPU Voltage is set to please? The CPUz screenshot you showed really didn'y look right. That is way too low of a Vcore in that shot.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
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    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
    PSU
    EVGA 850
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    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
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    EVGA 280 AIO
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    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
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    Logitech G502
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    Dell 16 Plus
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
Would you check in BIOS and see what the CPU Voltage is set to please? The CPUz screenshot you showed really didn'y look right. That is way too low of a Vcore in that shot.
Hi essenbe,

As you can see in the CPUz screenshot, Intel Speedstep is in effect (when the computer is idle the speed and voltage is reduced). The voltage is set to 1.2V manually by me in BIOS, as you can see in the BIOS screenshot (1.208V).
 

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Windows 7 Professional x64
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Intel Core i7 4790k
Motherboard
MSI Z97 Gaming 7
Memory
Corsair Dominator GT 16GB (4x4GB CMT16GX3M4X2133C9)
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX 970 Gaming
Sound Card
S/PDIF out to external DAC (Atoll HD100)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2713HM
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256GB Samsung 850 Pro, 2x3TB WD Red (Raid 1)
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Where did you get the 1.2V? I understand it is reduced, but not to 0.17, I don't think. I believe it should be to 0.7ish.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
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    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
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    EVGA 850
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    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
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    EVGA 280 AIO
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    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
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    Logitech G502
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    24/1
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    Chrome/ Firefox/ Edge
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    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell 16 Plus
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
Where did you get the 1.2V? I understand it is reduced, but not to 0.17, I don't think. I believe it should be to 0.7ish.
Hi essenbe,

I got it from the voltages screenshot I posted earlier (bottom left):
View attachment 341298

Are you saying the CPU is faulty? I feel that the voltages in CPUz are a bit dodgy when Speedstep kicks in.

Anyway, I left the computer on overnight, doing nothing in particular (no standby), and when I woke up there was a new BSOD message and Windows had restarted. It happened approximately 7 hours after I went to sleep.

I have attached the zip file using your previous instructions.

Best,
Martin
 

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PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 4790k
Motherboard
MSI Z97 Gaming 7
Memory
Corsair Dominator GT 16GB (4x4GB CMT16GX3M4X2133C9)
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX 970 Gaming
Sound Card
S/PDIF out to external DAC (Atoll HD100)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2713HM
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2560x1440
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256GB Samsung 850 Pro, 2x3TB WD Red (Raid 1)
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EVGA Supernova G2 750W
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Cooler Master Nepton 140XL
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Func KB-460
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Microsoft Security Essentials
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Martin, the CPU is the last component in your computer I suspect. It is more than likely the Motherboard is not setting the voltages correct or one of the C states. I am really unfamiliar with your chipset and the MSI BIOS settings. However, would you post a screenshot of the bios page showing the CPU Voltages and settings where you change CPU voltages and also where the C states are. On my board, that is under advanced, CPU Configuration.

Please do me a favor. I am going to give you a tutorial link on using Intel Burn Test which is a CPU stress test and will stress your CPU extremely high. The only exception to the test are the monitoring programs suggested. I would like you to use Core Temp (Core Temp) having Core Temp, CPUz and Intel burn test open. Please run the test on standard and post a screenshot of it running with CPUz and Core temp open. I would like to see all 3 at the same time. When you are running it, keep a close watch on temps. They will get extremely high and it will happen very quickly. If the temps get too high, stop the test. But, you can skip the part about HW Info since you are not going to be using it. Core Temp will also tell you your TJ Max, which is the maximum temp your CPU can get before shutting down. Keep at least 20C below that. I am showing Core Temp open and have outlined the TJ Max for you. Yours will be different than mine, most likely. The tutorial is http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/220743-cpu-stress-test-using-intelburntest.html

View attachment 341300

What I am most interested in is a number on Core Temp and the voltages on CPUz and some of the settings. The test itself will last maybe 3-5 minutes.

The dump file didn't give us a whole lot of info. This is what I got.

Code:
KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED (1e)
This is a very common bugcheck.  Usually the exception address pinpoints
the driver/function that caused the problem.  Always note this address
as well as the link date of the driver/image that contains this address.
Arguments:
Arg1: 0000000000000000, The exception code that was not handled
Arg2: 0000000000000000, The address that the exception occurred at
Arg3: 0000000000000000, Parameter 0 of the exception
Arg4: 0000000000000000, Parameter 1 of the exception

Notice all the 'arguments' are 0, which means there is not much to tell. But I did get it to tell me this

Code:
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for e1q62x64.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for e1q62x64.sys

That is your Intel Ethernet driver
Code:
e1q62x64
start             end                 module name
fffff880`04c00000 fffff880`04c7c000   e1q62x64 T (no symbols)           
    Loaded symbol image file: e1q62x64.sys
    Image path: e1q62x64.sys
    Image name: e1q62x64.sys
    Timestamp:        [COLOR=red]Wed Mar 27 12:10:32 2013[/COLOR] (51532808)
    CheckSum:         00083E4E
    ImageSize:        0007C000
    Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4

You can go to https://downloadcenter.intel.com/default.aspx and let it scan your computer and it should give you an updated driver and any other drivers supplied by Intel.

After you finish that, which is not very much, I am going to get you to do something else, but this post is long enough.

If you have any questions, ask away.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
    PSU
    EVGA 850
    Case
    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
    Cooling
    EVGA 280 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
    Internet Speed
    24/1
    Antivirus
    ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
    Browser
    Chrome/ Firefox/ Edge
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell 16 Plus
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
Martin, the CPU is the last component in your computer I suspect. It is more than likely the Motherboard is not setting the voltages correct or one of the C states. I am really unfamiliar with your chipset and the MSI BIOS settings. However, would you post a screenshot of the bios page showing the CPU Voltages and settings where you change CPU voltages and also where the C states are. On my board, that is under advanced, CPU Configuration.
Hi essenbe,

Of course. Here you are:
View attachment 341303
View attachment 341302

Please do me a favor. I am going to give you a tutorial link on using Intel Burn Test which is a CPU stress test and will stress your CPU extremely high. The only exception to the test are the monitoring programs suggested. I would like you to use Core Temp (Core Temp) having Core Temp, CPUz and Intel burn test open. Please run the test on standard and post a screenshot of it running with CPUz and Core temp open. I would like to see all 3 at the same time. When you are running it, keep a close watch on temps. They will get extremely high and it will happen very quickly. If the temps get too high, stop the test. But, you can skip the part about HW Info since you are not going to be using it. Core Temp will also tell you your TJ Max, which is the maximum temp your CPU can get before shutting down. Keep at least 20C below that. I am showing Core Temp open and have outlined the TJ Max for you. Yours will be different than mine, most likely. The tutorial is http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/220743-cpu-stress-test-using-intelburntest.html
View attachment 341300

What I am most interested in is a number on Core Temp and the voltages on CPUz and some of the settings. The test itself will last maybe 3-5 minutes.
Test ran fine. I post two screenshots, the first one during one of the runs, while the second one is when the test was finished:
View attachment 341304
View attachment 341305

What I can see here is that while the computer is idle, CPUz seems to show the incorrect voltage. Notice how Core Temp shows the Voltage as 0.7214, which is more in line of what you mentioned earlier (0.7 ish).

The dump file didn't give us a whole lot of info. This is what I got.

Code:
KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED (1e)
This is a very common bugcheck.  Usually the exception address pinpoints
the driver/function that caused the problem.  Always note this address
as well as the link date of the driver/image that contains this address.
Arguments:
Arg1: 0000000000000000, The exception code that was not handled
Arg2: 0000000000000000, The address that the exception occurred at
Arg3: 0000000000000000, Parameter 0 of the exception
Arg4: 0000000000000000, Parameter 1 of the exception

Notice all the 'arguments' are 0, which means there is not much to tell. But I did get it to tell me this

Code:
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for e1q62x64.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for e1q62x64.sys

That is your Intel Ethernet driver
Code:
e1q62x64
start             end                 module name
fffff880`04c00000 fffff880`04c7c000   e1q62x64 T (no symbols)           
    Loaded symbol image file: e1q62x64.sys
    Image path: e1q62x64.sys
    Image name: e1q62x64.sys
    Timestamp:        [COLOR=red]Wed Mar 27 12:10:32 2013[/COLOR] (51532808)
    CheckSum:         00083E4E
    ImageSize:        0007C000
    Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4

You can go to https://downloadcenter.intel.com/default.aspx and let it scan your computer and it should give you an updated driver and any other drivers supplied by Intel.

After you finish that, which is not very much, I am going to get you to do something else, but this post is long enough.

If you have any questions, ask away.
Actually, that the dump files doesn't show me much is something I'm used to. :) I have installed the debug tools for Windows so I usually open them to see if something concrete is showing. But my skills with debugging dump files isn't great.

Regarding the Intel driver, it comes from the latest package they have on their website, dated 28th of October 2014:
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=18713&lang=eng&ProdId=3025

I am aware that the date of the driver itself is from 2013, I noticed this while updating all the drivers and reinstalled the package above, but it didn't change. The Intel scan also did not find anything to update after I clicked "Auto Scan":
View attachment 341306

Thanks again for your quick help!

Best,
Martin
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 4790k
Motherboard
MSI Z97 Gaming 7
Memory
Corsair Dominator GT 16GB (4x4GB CMT16GX3M4X2133C9)
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX 970 Gaming
Sound Card
S/PDIF out to external DAC (Atoll HD100)
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2713HM
Screen Resolution
2560x1440
Hard Drives
256GB Samsung 850 Pro, 2x3TB WD Red (Raid 1)
PSU
EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Case
NZXT H440
Cooling
Cooler Master Nepton 140XL
Keyboard
Func KB-460
Mouse
Steelseries Rival
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Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
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Martin, I am going to check with a few people, but I believe C1e should be enabled. Also, with your Vcore, do you have the option of Manual and offset voltage?

VID as shown in Core Temp is not the voltage you are actually using. It is a number hard coded into the CPU which in basic terms is the voltage the CPU is asking for. That was the number I was looking for. Core temp is about the only program that shows it and what I use in setting my voltages when overclocking. You will find you can run at less than the VID, at least with Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge. Also, with those 2 chipsets, C1e is enabled, otherwise CPUz cannot read the proper voltages. Haswell has about 10 C states and will drop voltages more than Ivy does. I drop to 1.6 when EIST kicks in and run in the range of 0,845V at idle. You should drop to 800MHz at idle and a Vcore of 0.7ish. What you showed in your screenshot yesterday of 0.17V is either CPUz not being able to read it correctly or way wrong.

Do you and are you planning to overclock your CPU? If you do, you will need better cooling. You notice you got up to 80C and you have a max of 100C. Plus, software is notoriously wrong and just a close approximation of CPU temps. Don't ever trust it too much. Core Temp and Real Temp are the 2 which I trust the most, but I still will not go within 10-15C of max. Just some info for you to keep in mind. Here's what I would like you to try for me. When you set it up, I want you to sort the drivers by provider and select all drivers NOT PROVIDED BY MICROSOFT, but be certain you create a restore point first. It's possible that will be your only way back. We are trying to make you BSOD. It puts extra stress on the selected drivers. In theory, the problem driver will crash and the dump file will catch it. The computer will be sluggish and feel kind of slow. That is normal. But, continue to use it as you would normally and do anything you want with it. There are no restrictions. The more you do with it the better I like it.

   Warning
Be sure to create a System Restore point before proceeding further http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/697-system-restore-point-create.html


Driver Verifier - Enable and Disable
Run Driver Verifier for 24 hours or the occurrence of the next crash, whichever is earlier.
   Information

What is Driver Verifier:
It puts stress on the drivers, and tries to make the faulty driver crash the computer. It is designed this way, to attempt to trap the offending driver.


What you will notice:
It will tend to make the computer rather slow and sluggish because the drivers are being stressed.
   Warning

Before enabling DV, make sure you have created a system restore point before enabling Driver Verifier. make a System Restore Point manually before enabling DV.


   Tip




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Martin, I am going to check with a few people, but I believe C1e should be enabled. Also, with your Vcore, do you have the option of Manual and offset voltage?
Ok, should I enable it now?
Yes, I have the option of Manual and offset voltage. It is set to auto.

VID as shown in Core Temp is not the voltage you are actually using. It is a number hard coded into the CPU which in basic terms is the voltage the CPU is asking for. That was the number I was looking for. Core temp is about the only program that shows it and what I use in setting my voltages when overclocking. You will find you can run at less than the VID, at least with Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge. Also, with those 2 chipsets, C1e is enabled, otherwise CPUz cannot read the proper voltages. Haswell has about 10 C states and will drop voltages more than Ivy does. I drop to 1.6 when EIST kicks in and run in the range of 0,845V at idle. You should drop to 800MHz at idle and a Vcore of 0.7ish. What you showed in your screenshot yesterday of 0.17V is either CPUz not being able to read it correctly or way wrong.

Do you and are you planning to overclock your CPU? If you do, you will need better cooling. You notice you got up to 80C and you have a max of 100C. Plus, software is notoriously wrong and just a close approximation of CPU temps. Don't ever trust it too much. Core Temp and Real Temp are the 2 which I trust the most, but I still will not go within 10-15C of max. Just some info for you to keep in mind. Here's what I would like you to try for me. When you set it up, I want you to sort the drivers by provider and select all drivers NOT PROVIDED BY MICROSOFT, but be certain you create a restore point first. It's possible that will be your only way back. We are trying to make you BSOD. It puts extra stress on the selected drivers. In theory, the problem driver will crash and the dump file will catch it. The computer will be sluggish and feel kind of slow. That is normal. But, continue to use it as you would normally and do anything you want with it. There are no restrictions. The more you do with it the better I like it.
I am not overclocking and I am not planning to. This is because 4.4 GHz with Haswell-E is more than enough speed for this computer. As long as it is not BSOD'ing. :)
   Warning
Be sure to create a System Restore point before proceeding further http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/697-system-restore-point-create.html


Driver Verifier - Enable and Disable
Run Driver Verifier for 24 hours or the occurrence of the next crash, whichever is earlier.
   Information

What is Driver Verifier:
It puts stress on the drivers, and tries to make the faulty driver crash the computer. It is designed this way, to attempt to trap the offending driver.


What you will notice:
It will tend to make the computer rather slow and sluggish because the drivers are being stressed.
   Warning

Before enabling DV, make sure you have created a system restore point before enabling Driver Verifier. make a System Restore Point manually before enabling DV.


   Tip



Let us know the results, with the subsequent crash dumps, if any.
I have created a restore point and enabled the Driver Verifier as per your instructions. Let's see if it BSOD's again soon.

Your Motherboard ( MSI Global - Computer, Laptop, Notebook, Desktop, Motherboard, Graphics and more 64 ) lists a Killer Network Lan driver not an Intel Lan driver. What am I getting wrong? I believe that is your motherboard and where the most current drivers are supposed to be.
You are not getting anything wrong, you probably just didn't read the full "What I've done to try to fix it" part in my OP saying "Disabled the Atheros Killer on-board network card and using an Intel PCI-E card instead". I have had lots of BSOD's with this on-board network so I have disabled it in the BIOS. If you do a google search for "e2200 killer bsod" you will see that lot's of people have problems with it as well.

The Intel card I'm using is this one:
Intel® Gigabit CT Desktop Adapter Product Brief

Thanks,
Martin
 
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I don't have to Google. I work on BSOD's. ;) I know all about the Killer Network Drivers. It's a shame too. They work pretty good, when they are not causing BSODs.

I didn't miss that, I just forgot. Easy to do at my age and working on several of these cases. :o When you ran the Intel Scan, it didn't pick up the Intel card you have. It should pick it up even if you have the latest driver. I have an Intel Lan too, but it doesn't pick it up either, but that is because Asus has made some alterations to mine. I would like you to enable C1e, just for a try, but would rather wait until after we are finished with Driver Verifier. I think I told you earlier, you should be at 1.25V at stock. When you ran Intel Burn Test, if you noticed the voltage jumped up to 1.264, which is about where it should be. You could most likely change your BIOS to offset and set a -.010 and try it, if you want to. I'm an old overclocker and it's in my blood to run at the lowest stable voltage possible. Especially with a hot running CPU like you have. But, it won't hurt anything to leave it alone, you'll never see stress (thus voltages and temps) like you did running IBT.
 

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Hi essenbe,

I don't have to Google. I work on BSOD's. ;) I know all about the Killer Network Drivers. It's a shame too. They work pretty good, when they are not causing BSODs.

I didn't miss that, I just forgot. Easy to do at my age and working on several of these cases. :o
No worries. Yes I agree it's bad that a) they make bad drivers and b) hardware producers incorporate their solutions when they are not very good.

When you ran the Intel Scan, it didn't pick up the Intel card you have. It should pick it up even if you have the latest driver. I have an Intel Lan too, but it doesn't pick it up either, but that is because Asus has made some alterations to mine. I would like you to enable C1e, just for a try, but would rather wait until after we are finished with Driver Verifier. I think I told you earlier, you should be at 1.25V at stock. When you ran Intel Burn Test, if you noticed the voltage jumped up to 1.264, which is about where it should be. You could most likely change your BIOS to offset and set a -.010 and try it, if you want to. I'm an old overclocker and it's in my blood to run at the lowest stable voltage possible. Especially with a hot running CPU like you have. But, it won't hurt anything to leave it alone, you'll never see stress (thus voltages and temps) like you did running IBT.
Ok, I will enable C1e now, I just had another BSOD after enabling Driver Verifier (that was fast). I am attaching a new .zip again.

Best,
Martin
 

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Here's what it says

Code:
SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX:  7
SYMBOL_NAME:  [COLOR=red]tcpip!TcpUpdateIsnGenerator+6c[/COLOR]
FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner
IMAGE_NAME:  [COLOR=red]hardware[/COLOR]
DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  0
IMAGE_VERSION:  6.1.7601.18438
MODULE_NAME: hardware
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_IP_MISALIGNED
BUCKET_ID:  X64_IP_MISALIGNED

Also

[CODE*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for iusb3xhc.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for iusb3xhc.sys][/CODE]

That's your Intel(R) USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller Driver

Code:
iusb3xhc
start             end                 module name
fffff880`0464b000 fffff880`04712000   iusb3xhc T (no symbols)           
    Loaded symbol image file: iusb3xhc.sys
    Image path: iusb3xhc.sys
    Image name: iusb3xhc.sys
    Timestamp:        Fri Aug 08 08:09:23 2014 (53E4CC03)
    CheckSum:         000CF4F9
    ImageSize:        000C7000
    Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4

and

Code:
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for nvlddmkm.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for nvlddmkm.sys

Your Graphics Driver

Code:
nvlddmkm
start             end                 module name
fffff880`0f6f5000 fffff880`103d5000   nvlddmkm T (no symbols)           
    Loaded symbol image file: nvlddmkm.sys
    Image path: nvlddmkm.sys
    Image name: nvlddmkm.sys
    Timestamp:        Wed Nov 12 14:51:31 2014 (5463C853)
    CheckSum:         00CA4D59
    ImageSize:        00CE0000
    Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4

What you are probably find is one of those 3 was the cause and the other 2 were the victim. My bet is the first one, the Intel Lan, mostly because it is the first one listed and is the same as the dump before.
 

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What you are probably find is one of those 3 was the cause and the other 2 were the victim. My bet is the first one, the Intel Lan, mostly because it is the first one listed and is the same as the dump before.
Hi essenbe,

Wow that is quite interesting. I spent $30 just to buy this network card because I was not going to use the Killer integrated network card because it was already giving me trouble. :)

So what I'll do is to remove the Intel card and use a Wireless USB key and see what happens.

Should I disable Driver Verifier now or is it still advised to keep it running?

Best,
Martin
 

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In most cases I would probably say turn it off, but in yours I would like to keep it running and see what happens the next time. Much of this is kind of an educated guess, and with only 2 dump files, I would like to see if the same fault continues.
 

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In most cases I would probably say turn it off, but in yours I would like to keep it running and see what happens the next time. Much of this is kind of an educated guess, and with only 2 dump files, I would like to see if the same fault continues.
Excellent, I'll keep it running. I have now removed the Intel NIC so I don't have any wired adapter running, only the Wireless USB. Let's see what happens next.

By the way, if it is indeed the Intel NIC that was causing the BSOD's, isn't that quite strange? I have always found Intel products to be solid, both software and hardware wise. Could it be a faulty/damaged network card, physically, that I was unlucky to get?

Thanks again.

Best,
Martin
 
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