Can't use windows update - Where can I find optional updates?

klear6

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Due to a problem with BITS I cannot currently download updates using Windows Update. I can download them manually and install them from the Microsoft website. Unfortunately I can only find the required updates but not any of the optional ones. Does anyone know where I can find these? Even if I search for the update number the search comes back empty. Also, if you would like to help with the BITS problem please look at my profile to find the other thread. :huh:
 

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Acer Aspire One D270-1865
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x32
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Intel Atom N2600 (1.6 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache)
Motherboard
Acer JE01_CT
Memory
2 GB DDR3
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Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3600 Series
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320 GB HDD
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avast! Free Antivirus 2015
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Maxthon v4.4.7.1000
Let's fix BITS instead.

Please download the Farbar Service Scanner from

Farbar Service Scanner Download

Right-click on the saved file and select 'Run as Administrator', and tick all the options, then click on the Scan button - copy and paste the report to your response.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
Farbar Service Scanner Version: 26-07-2015
Ran by klear6 (administrator) on 23-08-2015 at 02:32:02
Running from "C:\Users\klear6\Downloads\From Maxthon\Windows Updates"
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Service Pack 1 (X86)
Boot Mode: Normal
****************************************************************

Internet Services:
============

Connection Status:
==============
Localhost is accessible.
LAN connected.
Google IP is accessible.
Google.com is accessible.
Yahoo.com is accessible.


Windows Firewall:
=============

Firewall Disabled Policy:
==================


System Restore:
============

System Restore Policy:
========================


Action Center:
============


Windows Update:
============
BITS Service is not running. Checking service configuration:
The start type of BITS service is OK.
The ImagePath of BITS service is OK.
The ServiceDll of BITS service is OK.


Windows Autoupdate Disabled Policy:
============================


Windows Defender:
==============
WinDefend Service is not running. Checking service configuration:
The start type of WinDefend service is set to Demand. The default start type is Auto.
The ImagePath of WinDefend service is OK.
The ServiceDll of WinDefend service is OK.


Windows Defender Disabled Policy:
==========================
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Defender]
"DisableAntiSpyware"=DWORD:1


Other Services:
==============


File Check:
========
C:\Windows\system32\nsisvc.dll => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\Drivers\nsiproxy.sys => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\dhcpcore.dll => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\Drivers\afd.sys => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\Drivers\tdx.sys => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\Drivers\tcpip.sys => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\dnsrslvr.dll => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\mpssvc.dll => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\bfe.dll => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\Drivers\mpsdrv.sys => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\SDRSVC.dll => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\vssvc.exe => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\wscsvc.dll => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\wbem\WMIsvc.dll => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\wuaueng.dll => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\qmgr.dll => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\es.dll => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\cryptsvc.dll => File is digitally signed
C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MpSvc.dll => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\ipnathlp.dll => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\iphlpsvc.dll => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe => File is digitally signed
C:\Windows\system32\rpcss.dll => File is digitally signed


**** End of log ****



Also I think something is wrong with my permissions. I keep having to take ownership of folders to be able to run the applications inside of them. Is there a way to reset the permissions? This may be a completely separate problem but it is quite annoying.
 

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Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Aspire One D270-1865
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x32
CPU
Intel Atom N2600 (1.6 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache)
Motherboard
Acer JE01_CT
Memory
2 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3600 Series
Hard Drives
320 GB HDD
(set up by Acer with seperate partition for Acer e Recovery with Windows Home Starter)
Antivirus
avast! Free Antivirus 2015
Browser
Maxthon v4.4.7.1000
This all sounds very much like malware -
Please download and install Malwarebytes Anti-malware (free version) from Malwarebytes | Free Anti-Malware Detection & Removal Software - UNtick 'Enable free trial of MBAM Premium' at the end of the installation - and update it, then run a full scan in your main account, and Quick scans in any other user accounts.

Quarantine everything it finds
post back with the results -
Also - what Anti-Virus is installed? Avast? - what other AV was previously installed?
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
I have run malware bytes; it did not solve the problem. I am using Avast - the computer came with McAffee but I uninstalled it.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Aspire One D270-1865
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x32
CPU
Intel Atom N2600 (1.6 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache)
Motherboard
Acer JE01_CT
Memory
2 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3600 Series
Hard Drives
320 GB HDD
(set up by Acer with seperate partition for Acer e Recovery with Windows Home Starter)
Antivirus
avast! Free Antivirus 2015
Browser
Maxthon v4.4.7.1000
I forgot to mention that at one time I had Panda Antivirus
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Aspire One D270-1865
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x32
CPU
Intel Atom N2600 (1.6 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache)
Motherboard
Acer JE01_CT
Memory
2 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3600 Series
Hard Drives
320 GB HDD
(set up by Acer with seperate partition for Acer e Recovery with Windows Home Starter)
Antivirus
avast! Free Antivirus 2015
Browser
Maxthon v4.4.7.1000
We need to run the uninstall cleanup tools for both McAfee and Panda...

Download the McAfee removal tool from:

http://download.mcafee.com/products/licensed/cust_support_patches/MCPR.exe

Click Save, and save the file to a folder on your computer.
Navigate to the folder where you saved the file.
right-click on MCPR.exe and select 'Run as Administrator' to run the removal tool.

when complete, reboot.

Now run the Panda Removal tool from the link here...
Panda Antivirus Uninstaller Download
Download the tool, run it and then reboot.
Once rebooted, open an Elevated COmmand Prompt, and run the following commands.

NETSH WINSOCK RESET
NETSH WINHTTP RESET


reboot again, and try windows update.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
Is there a removal tool for AVG? I may have had the antivirus installed at some time. I still use the tune-up program from AVG too if that it relevant. I am downloading the uninstallers you suggested right now.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Aspire One D270-1865
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x32
CPU
Intel Atom N2600 (1.6 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache)
Motherboard
Acer JE01_CT
Memory
2 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3600 Series
Hard Drives
320 GB HDD
(set up by Acer with seperate partition for Acer e Recovery with Windows Home Starter)
Antivirus
avast! Free Antivirus 2015
Browser
Maxthon v4.4.7.1000
When I run the McAffee removal tool it says some or all files could not be removed and that it is an incomplete uninstallation.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Aspire One D270-1865
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x32
CPU
Intel Atom N2600 (1.6 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache)
Motherboard
Acer JE01_CT
Memory
2 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3600 Series
Hard Drives
320 GB HDD
(set up by Acer with seperate partition for Acer e Recovery with Windows Home Starter)
Antivirus
avast! Free Antivirus 2015
Browser
Maxthon v4.4.7.1000
AVG's tune-up tool is the same as any other registry cleaner - dangerous!
Their removal tool(s) is here...
AVG | Download tools and utilities

McAfee... Reboot and run the tool again. see if it works this time.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
AVG's tune-up tool is the same as any other registry cleaner - dangerous!
.....
Agreed. Snake Oil products that scam people out of their money.

klear6,
Get your money back if it is not too late.

Here is what it found "wrong" with a fresh install of Windows:

AVG.png

The registry items that it found are not problems.


:::goes back to lurking:::
 

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Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Employer provided Dell Latitude
OS
W7 Pro SP1 64bit
CPU
i7
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics
Hard Drives
crappy SSD
Antivirus
Employer mandated Symantec Endpoint Protection
Browser
Pale Moon 64bit, IE11 64bit & Chrome 64bit
AVG 1 Click destruction.
 

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PC/Desktop
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Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
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Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
I think I figured out where this problem originated. My mom gave me her old laptop yesterday. I wiped it and reinstalled/upgraded windows and began my usual routine of removing the stuff that I don't like that the Compaq Presario came with. The first 2 things I always try to get rid of are Norton and McAffee because I can't stand them. For some reason I decided to download one update just to see if it would work or if I was truly cursed. It downloaded and installed just fine. I started with removing Norton Backup using the Norton Removal Tool. then I tried to download an update. Same error message as the Aspire. So I ran the recovery software on the Presario and did not use the Norton Removal Tool to uninstall backup and antivirus. Instead, I just uninstalled them through the control panel. Downloaded an update and it worked just fine and has been ever since then. I was hesitant to believe it would be the cause of such a frustrating error and go unnoticed for so long among all the people using that tool. I did a search on "norton removal tool and bits" and this is what I found:

BITS service problems-related to Norton Removal Tool? - Microsoft Community
BITS service problems-related to Norton Removal Tool? - Microsoft Community

Now I am convinced. So I know where it came from but nobody else had a solution posted. Is it too late to fix whatever has happened? Is the only way to approach this with a fresh install and remembering never to use that removal tool again? I really hope that there is some other way - I have put a ton of effort into getting this computer to run the way I want to - and it runs well except for the problem with the Bits/updates/printer.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Aspire One D270-1865
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x32
CPU
Intel Atom N2600 (1.6 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache)
Motherboard
Acer JE01_CT
Memory
2 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3600 Series
Hard Drives
320 GB HDD
(set up by Acer with seperate partition for Acer e Recovery with Windows Home Starter)
Antivirus
avast! Free Antivirus 2015
Browser
Maxthon v4.4.7.1000

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
Which fix am I going for here? When I look for Fix It 50202 all I can download is an automated troubleshooter.
 

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Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Aspire One D270-1865
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x32
CPU
Intel Atom N2600 (1.6 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache)
Motherboard
Acer JE01_CT
Memory
2 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3600 Series
Hard Drives
320 GB HDD
(set up by Acer with seperate partition for Acer e Recovery with Windows Home Starter)
Antivirus
avast! Free Antivirus 2015
Browser
Maxthon v4.4.7.1000
Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
Locate the following registry subkey:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\BackupRestore\FilesNotToBackup
If the registry subkey exists, go to step 4. If the registry subkey does not exist, create the registry subkey. To do this, follow these steps:
Right-click Backup Restore, point to New, and then click Key.
Type FilesNotToBackup, and then press ENTER.
Quit Registry Editor.

should work ;)
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
OMG IT WORKED!!!! You, and whoever wrote what you quoted, are my heroes!!! It is downloading updates as we speak. I haven't tried the printer yet. I have been having this issue over and over again for so long with so many reinstalls of windows i was almost ready to give up. Can you explain to me how that worked or exactly what I did? I will add that information when I post this fix for all the others who are dealing with this crazy issue. Norton need to learn how to go away without busting up someone's operating system.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Aspire One D270-1865
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x32
CPU
Intel Atom N2600 (1.6 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache)
Motherboard
Acer JE01_CT
Memory
2 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3600 Series
Hard Drives
320 GB HDD
(set up by Acer with seperate partition for Acer e Recovery with Windows Home Starter)
Antivirus
avast! Free Antivirus 2015
Browser
Maxthon v4.4.7.1000
Great! - I have to admit that when that was posted I was dubious about it, because while I detest Norton, and consider it to be little better than Malware itself, I always thought the Removal Tool did a decent job.
I've now been proved wrong (not for the first time!) :(

Yet again Symantec have proved their collective incompetence. :mad:
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
What I had to remove was Norton Backup. I have other ways I would prefer backing up my system. They really shouldn't include this stuff on the Windows install that comes with System Recovery on some computers. They should either make the install optional or just not put it there at all.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Aspire One D270-1865
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x32
CPU
Intel Atom N2600 (1.6 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache)
Motherboard
Acer JE01_CT
Memory
2 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3600 Series
Hard Drives
320 GB HDD
(set up by Acer with seperate partition for Acer e Recovery with Windows Home Starter)
Antivirus
avast! Free Antivirus 2015
Browser
Maxthon v4.4.7.1000
Many of the newer paid for anti virus are including so much unwanted things.
People end up with all this garbage and all they wanted was a anti virus program. Because much of this garbage runs under the protection of a anti virus program it hard to remove.

Even years ago when removing any anti virus program one had to do several registry searches to find all the garbage left over. I use to change anti virus programs every few months. When a new article came out stating the new greatest anti virus I would buy it. Then I discovered that those articles were bought and paid for garbage I install MSE for a test run. The first and only free anti virus program I have ever used and still do.

I will stick with MSE. No frills, just works for me. It always works with Windows 7 with only small problems every now and then.
The great point is Windows 7 and MSE play well together.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
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