Case upgrade advice needed

[linnemeyerhere]

Well first thing you need to do is define a rough budget. Also right away you need to realize that the AMD rig will be a lower cost rig that runs right in between a top i5 and a lower i7 rig. I doubt you are considering the top end Intel chip as that's a grand right there. I would say the AMD FX 8 core or a i5 Intel 3rd gen, will rock your world. Ironically I see the FX architecture lasting longer then the next gen Intel. Meaning that your top flight AMD mobo will last for a generation or two with AMD upgrades where Intel is set to un-leash Haswell which it's unclear if it will work with current Intel mobo's.

 

[COMPUTIAC]

Thank's for the quick reply.
In the last 2 days or so I read a little about the Haswell CPU.

Doe's the ASRock 990FX MB have enough expansion slots for anything I might want to add in the future ?
Is this model the best fit for the FX-8350 CPU ? Are there any other MB's which would be compatible ?

 

[linnemeyerhere]

It's a great mobo for the AMD and as a off-spring from ASUS can be compared to this ASUS and other offerings.

Asus Sabetooth 990Fx/Gen3 AMD 990FX/SB950 Motherboard - ATX, Socket AM3+, AMD 990FX/SB950, DDR3 1866 MHz, SATA III (6Gb/s), RAID, 8-CH Audio, Gigabit LAN, USB 3.0, PCIe 3.0 (Sabetooth 990Fx/Gen3) at TigerDirect.com

 

[linnemeyerhere]

Here's another killer mobo from AS Rock:

Newegg.com - ASRock 990FX Extreme9 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

 

[COMPUTIAC]

What is the difference between this one which states it is unlocked:
AMD FD8350FRHKBOX FX-8350 Eight-Core 4GHz AM3+ Processor - AM3+, Eight-Core, 4GHz, 16MB, 125W, Unlocked at TigerDirect.com

this one which states it is Black:
http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FX-Series...RHKBOX/dp/B009O7YUF6/ref=pd_rhf_dp_p_t_1_6NM2

and this one which states it is Turbo:
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8350FRHKBOX - Newegg.com

 

[kbrady1979]

What is the difference between this one which states it is unlocked:
AMD FD8350FRHKBOX FX-8350 Eight-Core 4GHz AM3+ Processor - AM3+, Eight-Core, 4GHz, 16MB, 125W, Unlocked at TigerDirect.com

this one which states it is Black:
Amazon.com: AMD FX-8350 FX-Series Eight-Core Processor Edition, Black AM3 FD8350FRHKBOX: Computers & Accessories

and this one which states it is Turbo:
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8350FRHKBOX - Newegg.com

Nothing, they are the exact same CPU. Black is just a generic term for Unlocked, which means it is very easy to overclock it. Exact same thing though.

 

[COMPUTIAC]

Ok, what about the Turbo ?

The one from newegg is the only one which states it in the spec's.

 

[kbrady1979]

It means it can physically clock itself up to the Turbo Boost speed of 4.2GHz.....the stock clock is 4.0GHz. All of them do that

 

[COMPUTIAC]

Thank's for your replies.

So you are saying they are all equal, even though the spec's are not the same ?

 

[kbrady1979]

It is the exact same part.....the specs are the same, it is the description that is different. Exact same part number: FD8350FRHKBOX

 

[COMPUTIAC]

You are right of course, I did see they were the same spec's and same part number, but the description is what kept confusing me.
Typical newb confusion I guess.

 

[linnemeyerhere]

Always better safe then sorry.

 

[COMPUTIAC]

Always better safe then sorry.

Thank's
Any other thoughts for what else I may need ?
I'm aware the video card is going to be a choking point for now.

 

[kbrady1979]

Let's recap what changes you are going to make, and what parts you are going to end up with.

 

[COMPUTIAC]

Case: Define R4 - 3 extra 140mm fans
Psu: Ultra x4 Modular 1050w
Graphics card: Galaxy 210
Mem: Corsair DDR3 xms 1333 16GB
SSD: OCZ Vertez3 120GB
Hdd: Hitachi 1 TB
CPU cooler: Gemin s524
CPU: AMD FX-8350
MB: ASRock 990FXExrtreme4

The only part I'm not 100% sure about is the MB.

 

[kbrady1979]

Looks good, but I am not 100% sure the CPU cooler is compatible with that socket/cpu. Other than that, the GPU is the only thing that isn't up to snuff and if you aren't gaming, it won't be a problem.

 

[COMPUTIAC]

No, no gaming.
Here are the cpu cooler spec's:
COOLER MASTER GeminII S524 120mm Long Life Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with Intel 2011/1366/1155/775 and AMD FM1/FM2/AM3+ - Newegg.com
will it be ok ? I looks like it would to me.

 

[kbrady1979]

While the cooler will work with the AM3+ socket, it doesn't look to support the FX series of CPU's.

 

[COMPUTIAC]

Any idea what the difference is ?

If not how do I find out ?

 

[kbrady1979]

Here is what I would use if you don't plan on OC'ing it to the limit and needing a closed loop water cooler..... Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

The socket is the physical slot on the motherboard where the CPU goes. The socket for the FX-8350 is AM3+. It will physically fit, but the details show that it doesn't support the FX series of CPU's. It may be that it is not rated for use with that TDP, or it could just have not been updated. I think you will be happier with the Cooler Master I linked you to. Other members can attest to the bang for the buck you get with the Hyper 212 Evo.