contast BSODs

[Chironz]

Better Know... What are the real chipsets of your board (NVIDIA, INTEL, SIS, VIA)
Even I have a MSI Motherboard, I don't go to their site, instead I go to Nvidia Site (because I have a Nvidia Chipset 790i) then I do download their latest drivers.
Sometimes Motherboard and other pc peripherals manufacturer doesn't have the latest drivers


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[dcostalis]

Hey, I'm sorry I didn't post a link to the drivers, I didn't want to confuse anyone. There are different chipsets and different motherboards, and I didn't want to break anyones stuff by not being sure. I also didn't see that there was a beta version, or drivers that new. The one i'm using now is from 2006, but I'm going to upgrade to that one and see what happens... I've gotten 7 blue screens today so far :-(.

The slowdown is fixed, the BSODs are not. We'll see how this new driver fares me.

 

[dcostalis]

Ha.

No luck. Of course not.

links to my recent minidumps if anyone is interested in peeling them apart.

http://whathuhstudios.com/minidump/minidump3.zip

 

[chev65]

I was having similar problems when I made the switch to Windows 7 from Vista a few months back. For some reason Windows 7 was much less stable than Vista for me also. It was especially unstable when trying to move files accross the network.

I tried some voltage changes in bios and the one change that had a positive effect was bumping up the northbridge voltage a bit. Made all the difference for me. That's all I can think of for now, hope you get this figured out soon.

 

[dcostalis]

Interesting. I would never ever EVER think to bump the NB voltage when it worked great in Vista before, but adding a bit of a stability boost to that area might just do the trick. Thanks for the tip! I see you're using an nVidia chipset though, I have an Intel G45, so it might be different causes. PS: 4.32 Ghz? Really? I can't keep mine stable over 3.0, and its not because of heat! (of course, i have a q9400, not a 9650).

I'm going to try the 7264 version of the kernel, and see if that helps anything. 7100 worked fine for me, 7201 and 7229 haven't been so lucky. I get a lot of page_fault_in_nonpaged_area, and system_service_exception errors, and I think that's the kernel crapping out, not a driver. We'll see.

 

[Legacy Code]

you still having no luck dcostalis ? hope you get it sorted for RTM

 

[dcostalis]

I can't keep mine stable over 3.0, and its not because of heat!

I'd just like to mention that, of course, I am not currently overclocking my chip. I just wanted to make that clear before i get a :: from someone telling me that's the problem

 

[7echno7im]

Shot in the dark, but try a check disk. Random BSODs can be a result of bad sectors. I know i just suggested this on another thread, but it is something that is overlooked. Slow HD access times my be hinting at a failing drive. I had a drive that got slower and slower until it died. I think it was trying to read the corrupted data over and over which resulted in a slow read time.

If the check disk comes back with unrecoverable data, its bad, and plan to move any critical data off the drive/machine.


Other BSODs I have seen were RAM OC'd too high. Try resetting BIOS to defaults. I could OC my rig higher in Vista that Windows 7 for some reason.

 

[dcostalis]

Shot in the dark, but try a check disk. Random BSODs can be a result of bad sectors. I know i just suggested this on another thread, but it is something that is overlooked. Slow HD access times my be hinting at a failing drive. I had a drive that got slower and slower until it died. I think it was trying to read the corrupted data over and over which resulted in a slow read time.

If the check disk comes back with unrecoverable data, its bad, and plan to move any critical data off the drive/machine.


Other BSODs I have seen were RAM OC'd too high. Try resetting BIOS to defaults. I could OC my rig higher in Vista that Windows 7 for some reason.

I ran chkdsk (with blue screens happening as often as they have, I've run a few actually), and nothing crazy came up. A few bad pointers or whatever, but didn't really do any good for the bsods. The speed issue ended up getting fixed with updated ACPI drivers, thanks to usamsa.

I agree though! chkdsk IS overlooked, and every major operating system except Windows makes you run a low-level disk scan after X number of kernel crashes. I wish MS would put that into 7.

I'm not overclocking anything at all right now, my RAM is running at its standard 800mhz. I haven't even bothered to OC my stuff since I installed 7, because it just runs so damn fast already! The only time I've tweaked it up to 3.0 Ghz or so is when I'm encoding a lot of video. That extra 10% or so makes a 45 minute job get done in 40

 

[dcostalis]

Well, here's an update.

Within a half hour of booting the new 7264, got another blue screen.

I upped my voltages one notch on my board, as chev65 suggested, and we'll see if I have any luck with that.

Another thing I've noticed is my mouse "freezes" for a bit during bootup. It'll be working fine, then will be completely non-responsive for about a second or two halfway through bootup. I assumed it's just loading some drivers, but maybe someone has seen that happen as a symptom of a problem before.

Hopefully my constant bumping of my own thread will end up leading to help someone else with this crap I've been going through

 

[chev65]

Well, here's an update.

Within a half hour of booting the new 7264, got another blue screen.

I upped my voltages one notch on my board, as chev65 suggested, and we'll see if I have any luck with that.

Another thing I've noticed is my mouse "freezes" for a bit during bootup. It'll be working fine, then will be completely non-responsive for about a second or two halfway through bootup. I assumed it's just loading some drivers, but maybe someone has seen that happen as a symptom of a problem before.

Hopefully my constant bumping of my own thread will end up leading to help someone else with this crap I've been going through

I've seen that trick work on three different machines and they were all different. It seems that Windows 7 puts a bit more load into the chip set compaired to Vista and that combined with 4GB Ram seems to cause the BSOD's. I will say that raising my SPP voltage just one notch made my sytem completely stable again almost like magic.

As for the overclocks,.. I'm 14 hours+ Prime blend stable at 4.05GHz with my Q9650 and past 4 hours Prime Blend stable at 4.32GHz with my Ram at 1200MHz. Seems to help out my Vantage score a bit but for 24/7 the 4.05GHz setting is the one I use.

These Q9650's are great overclocking CPU's but it did take quite awhile using Prime blend to get all the settings right. They are very picky about having the settings be exact and the GTLVref settings were very important to get past the Blend test.

Good luck with this problem, I hope you get it solved soon.

 

[7echno7im]

I've seen that trick work on three different machines and they were all different. It seems that Windows 7 puts a bit more load into the chip set compaired to Vista and that combined with 4GB Ram seems to cause the BSOD's. I will say that raising my SPP voltage just one notch made my sytem completely stable again almost like magic.

As for the overclocks,.. I'm 14 hours+ Prime blend stable at 4.05GHz with my Q9650 and past 4 hours Prime Blend stable at 4.32GHz with my Ram at 1200MHz. Seems to help out my Vantage score a bit but for 24/7 the 4.05GHz setting is the one I use.

These Q9650's are great overclocking CPU's but it did take quite awhile using Prime blend to get all the settings right. They are very picky about having the settings be exact and the GTLVref settings were very important to get past the Blend test.

Good luck with this problem, I hope you get it solved soon.

I noticed I had to clock my system back after leaving vista. I could OC my rig a lot higher, than with Windows 7.

 

[dcostalis]

No blue screens for nearly 3 days now, even after playing Mass Effect for 3 hours. I never got more than an hour out of that game. I think the voltage change was a success!

Thanks for everyone who helped! I hope I didn't forget to rep anybody!

 

[chev65]

Raising SPP fixed this problem.

Sounds stable to me dcostalis, my system was instantly stable system when I made that change. I was lost when that problem first occured but fortunately I figured it out after an afternoon of messing with my settings.

This is the fouth system I know of that this fix has helped so there are probably hundreds of systems with the same problems, some of them weren't even overclocking.

They should put this fix in the sticky's or something because this problem has come up quite a few times. Thanks for the rep and glad your system is stable again.

 

[risky]

Hi all,

been running the RC builds for a while. I tried dling multiple RTM's and the same happens with all of them. Installation seems to go ok. then right at the end of install, i get BSOD STOP: 0x00000007E.
What's funny is that my RC releases install and run with no problems. Its just all of the RTM's i have tried. any ideas?

 

[fakeasdf]

Have you tried installing with less ram, or switching your hard drive from ahci to ata, or vice versa? Have you tried installing with a different video card, and then adding it in later?

 

[risky]

how to i switch my hard drive from ahci to ata. haha, what does that even mean?
Why would the RC work and not the RTM tho?

 

[fakeasdf]

You change it in the BIOS... It's the interface specification between your hd and the rest of the world (k, that's a lie)... Just google ahci to learn more bout it...

 

[dcostalis]

I just wanted to mention...

Since fixing this issue, I have not had one blue screen of death. I have not had to restart my computer one single time due to errors, only when installing software that requires me to restart. I have never in my life had a computer running this well on any operating system, including Ubuntu 7.10, 8.04, win95, win98, nt 4.0, windows 2000, server 2003 in workstation mode, vista beta, vista rc, windows 7 beta, slackware 10, slackware 11.....