Creative Sound Cards.

[stormy13]

May or may not help but are you using the latest motherboard drivers (Nforce 570 SLi),

NVIDIA DRIVERS 15.51 WHQL

or the default ones that Windows installed?

 

[Arcalimon]

Win default drivers, i didn't update my mobo driver since i bought it

Is it worth to install them?

 

[stormy13]

I would, Nvidia chipsets can be finicky at the best of times. Just make sure to do a custom install and only install the ones you need (don't need the included audio driver, and I have never heard anything good about Nvidia's "Network Management Tools").

 

[Arcalimon]

Ok installed.

Now i'll try to reboot and installe the Auzen WMD pack by Daniel K that is also the only one who made my card send a nice and clear sound even if without any chance to set it 5.1 like it was on Vista.

How can this be possible?

Launched the driver pack Auzen WMD and i got this message

''A newer version of Driver Audio has been detected''


I've uninstalled EVERYTHING.

 

[stormy13]

This the one you used?

SB X-Fi Series AuzenWDM Pack 1.0 (09/30/2009) - Creative Labs

If so did you do the channel re-assignment as he described? If not that would be why you aren't getting 5.1.

 

[Arcalimon]

Yes they are

I can't install the driver cause it tells me that there's another version of the driver installed.

If i install it i can't use the apps cause ''No supported Device detected''


I'm going really mad don't know how to fix it

 

[Mcyoung5]

Just a bit of an addition to this as I have seen a few posts with people with Creative cards (can happen to the others too) where when they try to install the drivers they get the ever popular,

"Setup could not detect any Sound Blaster Audio Card on your system."

In most cases this can be fixed by installing the driver manually. First download the driver appropriate to your card (links to most Creative cards in the first post), then use something like Winrar or 7Zip to extract the downloaded driver file. Next follow the tutorial here (for Vista but the same applies for Windows 7),

Device Manager - Install Driver - Vista Forums

When you get to step #9 the file you want to point it to is,

for the Audigy SE/LS/DE/Value and X-Fi Xtreme Audio is P17.INF

for all X-Fi cards (except the above Xtreme Audio) and the rest of the Audigy series (1, 2 and 4) the file is wdma_emu.inf

In most cases the above files are located in the Drivers\WDM folder in the extracted folder. If the driver installs successfully, you should then be able to install any of the applications that have been updated to work with Vista (and will/should work with Windows 7); best to use one of the modded driver packs for this.

Just as a refference, if you're using an SB Audigy 1 and have this problem, just go into device manger, find the Multimedia Audio Device, then right click and select update driver. I tried it and it worked for me!

 

[Mcyoung5]

Yes they are

I can't install the driver cause it tells me that there's another version of the driver installed.

If i install it i can't use the apps cause ''No supported Device detected''


I'm going really mad don't know how to fix it

Just follow the steps that I posted in my previous link, I'll bet it probably works with any SB soundcard.

 

[Arcalimon]

It's not about setup

When i launch the setup it tells me that there's a newer version of the driver.

If i start the applications installed throug the pack they tell me that there are no supported devices, but the SB Creative X-Fi is present in the device list


And now i'm at yesterdays situation. Manually installed the WMD drivers and i have perfect sound back but only 2.1

Started the pack setup again, same errore message about newer driver, i ignored it and i'm installing all the applications.

But i'm sure they won't find the device again so they will not be usable again.

This is the key of the issue i fear.

 

[stormy13]

One thing with his Auzen packs, you have to do the speaker re-assignment using the THX Console, or you will only get 2.1. I got the same thing and had to do it today when I installed the UAA driver (driver only over the top of what was already there, the apps I have are from the original 2.0 Support Pack and still working); and yeah I got the warning about the currently installed driver being newer, just clicked on install anyway.

 

[Arcalimon]

I did reassignement now Itunes recognize my 5.1 but Dragon Age Origins

Not sure about Aion, also Media Player (I launched LOTR The Two Towers) is totally muted

 

[Mcyoung5]

Might wanna check updates for LOTR:TTT, the problem could be that the version you have doesn't support 5.1 or that there's just a bug and a newer patch will fix it. I hate that about video games, I'm still waiting for CombatArms to work with windows 7!

 

[Mcyoung5]

If that's not the case then I suggest maybe finding out how to contact the SB Support team and discussing the problem with them. They may be able to help you, but they might also want you to buy a new card. If they say to buy a new card don't! Just insist that it is their drivers AND NOT your card.

 

[Arcalimon]

Now, sound seems to be sorted even if i haven't 5.1 from some apps anymore, and i just found out that my microphone does not works any suggestion on this?

 

[stormy13]

You have it set to mic and not "What U Hear"?

 

[Arcalimon]

Yes i do, i also tried to launch the ''Setup a Microphone'' from ''accessibility'' in the control panel, and i get the following message:

''Your current default speech engine does not support this action at this time''


sidenote: in the playback devices i have only the Microphone as an available device, i also activated everything from the creative consoles.


edit1: anyway mate you made me have good sound back from my card i have only the fear that there's something wrong with it cause the lack of 5.1 sound and the mic not working are things that are worrying me

 

[Arcalimon]

Stormy any news for me?

 

[stormy13]

in the playback devices i have only the Microphone as an available device

Unless you like hearing everything that comes out of the speakers, you need to have the mic muted under playback (line in as well), and only unmuted in the recording properties.

As much as I hate to say it I have a feeling about the only thing that may solve it is to do a clean 7 install and start from scratch. Reason for saying that is that with all the different drivers you have tried, there is pretty much no way to know whether everything has been uninstalled/removed (same can be said for just about any driver, not just Creative ones). The problem is that there are driver files all over the place (System32, SysWOW64, WinSXS, you name it), and there is just no way to get rid of or even really finding which one (especially if it is in the WinSXS folder) is causing the problem(s).

That's why I suggest doing a clean install of Windows, and starting over. Easier to do if you have a spare hard drive you can use (a partition will do as well, but then you end up with the dual boot options), then you can leave the current install alone. If you don't have a spare drive, make sure to backup what you want to save first (can even use Windows own backup utility and make a full backup is you have someplace with the space to hold it, and reload the image using the Windows disk if necessary).

 

[mushroomboy]

Stormy any news for me?

You are using the emu20k1 chipset, which means you should be able to use the official drivers for Windows 7 as that is the first in the X-Fi series and hasn't been discontinued. The Daniel K drivers are for Emu10k1 and Emu10k2, SBL and SBA. So what I would do is go and complain to Creative, visit their boards and throw a ruckus. Because a currently supported card should work, and it IS their fault. Really all you can do is test different configurations and settings for the drivers, or start going back in driver versions until you get something that works.

[edit] and do what the guy above said Try a clean install.

 

[Arcalimon]

Any other way to erase everything without the third format??