Dell Dimension 4300

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Picked up a Dell Dimension 4300 at a garage sale for $10.

It has a pentium 4 2.66 ghz and 512 of DDR PC266 RAM. The OS is Windows XP Home.

I'm going to increase the RAM to 1 Gig, maybe 2. Not sure if the computer will support 2 gigs of RAM. I'll probably also be adding a DVD drive and a newer video card.

My question is will this computer run Windows 7?

This computer will mostly be used for watching movies and streaming videos off the internet.

TD
 

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Sorry it's a Dell Dimension 4550
 

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Done some more digging it looks as if my computer will support up to 2 gigs of PC2700 memory. Any recommendations on a good AGP video card to use.
 

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It will run marginally with 2GB RAM. 2GB is a drop dead minimum. 4GB is really beneficial. You will be running 32 bit Windows 7.

Finding a new AGP card is going to be tough. Probably better to find a working used card.
The process:

  • Find a card that you would buy
  • Go to the graphics manufacturer website and see if there is a 32 bit Windows 7 driver for that card.
  • NO - keep shopping
  • YES- buy card
You could get by with a Vista 32 bit driver, which you could install in Compatibility Mode.

You could also opt to just use the generic Windows 7 graphics driver. The card will work but there may be some limited functionality.


Same goes for drivers for all other devices.
 

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I think I may just leave XP on it. It's running pretty smooth with it. I appreciate the advice on video card. I never thought about the 32 bit drivers before.
 

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Windows 7

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Bluethunder II
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Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual machines
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AMD FX-8350 Vishera 32nm Technology @ 4.2 GHz default
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ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 (Socket 942)
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G Skill 32.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 1204MHz (11-13-13-31)
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Creative X-Fi Titanium HD Audiophile PCIe
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LG L227WTG x 3
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1680 x 1050 16:10
Hard Drives
238GB Samsung850 PRO SATA Disk Device (SSD)
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM 001-1CH164 (SATA)
1397GB Seagate ST1500DL 003-9VT16L(SATA)
466GB Western Digital WDC WD50 03AZEX-00K1GA0 (SATA) x 2
932GB Seagate ST310005 28AS SATA Disk Device (SATA)
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Enermax Revolution87+ 1000 Watts Gold Certified Power Supply
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Rocketfish Full Tower
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Push Pull 120mm Fans
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Logitech K740
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I have this same computer (funny thing, mine costed about $2000 when I got it) and with the standard 512MB of RAM, it works. I would definitely not want to put Windows 7 on it. Install as little as you have to on it. I tried (after a clean install) installing F.lux, Skype, and the software for my wifi USB. It was slow after the next reboot.
 

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AMD Phenom II X4 965 AM3 3.4Ghz 512KB 45NM 125W 4000MHZ
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GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
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Kingston HyperX 3K 120 GB SATA III 2.5-Inch 6.0 Gb/s Solid State Drive SH103S3/120G
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Some old PS/2 one
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USB Kensignton
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I know this is an OLD thread, but for anyone who happens to be searching for info; Not sure what mobos will fit as this is proprietary Dell stuff. It does not bolt in the way regular generic mobos do. And it has a different power supply setup from what I've been able to discover. It is the standard 20 pin, but the pinouts are not atx standard. Note that this was written 7/15 so prices may change but the prices I give are good as of this writing. I also know that the OP updated that his was a 4550 not a 4300. That is actually good news as it offers some even better options for upgrades. Here are the basics for the 4300, given that folks will find this by searching for the 4300. I'll put some 4550 details at the end.

Yes the 4300 can run Win7. It's not a great machine for it, but you can make it work decently. In fact you can do quite a bit with this machine. A 3.0GHz P4 is available (though it will run you $40 whereas the 2.8GHz will be $10-$15). Look for a Northwood P4 with 400MHz FSB. The 2.8 is an SL7EY. These top end Northwood P4s will also have more cache, nothing to shout about in terms of modern stuff, but every little bit helps. These will come with 512k cache. Yes 1GB of pc133 is the max for this board. Expect to pay about $10 for the two 512MB ram sticks.

But there is still more you can do to bring this up to more modern standards.

You can add a PCI gigbit network card to speed up internet access. Expect to pay around $5-$10 for this. The original is a 10/100 so the 10/100/1000 gigabit card will really make a difference.

You can add a cheap SIL3114 or SIL3124 PCI SATA/RAID card and get SATA I (3114) or even SATA II (3124, though not sure how much faster SATA II would actually be on a PCI bus). That will let you add an SSD, which will at least double your drive speed even at "just" SATA I. And although TRIM will not work with these SIL cards, the SSD will be so fast that even without trim, it will max out the PCI bus. The best SSDs will have one of the good Sandforce controllers, that have better garbage collection. The 3114 should run less than $10 and the 3124 about $15. A good used SSD should be around $30 for between 60 and 120 GB. I got an Enterprise class brand new Cloudspeed 500 120GB for $35. This has great speed (in fact way more than this system will ever be able to tap) but it also has 3x the longevity of consumer SSDs and has power failure protection with on-board caps to ensure the cache is written to nand in the event of power loss.

Lastly the graphics card is where you can make a big difference. The original card is a joke. Even some of the "upgrades" will bench so bad you can't believe it. But you can get relatively cheap 512MB cards that will work with this system. Avoid the Geforce options like the Geforce 6200. Unless you are going to stick with XP, the Vista/Win 7 drivers for these are AFU. They seem to only properly support the PCI-e versions and not the AGP versions. The best option is probably an ATI Radeon HD 3450. I know the PowerColor Radeon HD3450 512MB card works great in this board and the drivers are good with Win 7. Expect to pay about $20-$25 for the Radeon HD 3450 w/512MB. I just got one brand new in the box, for that. This card does need a Molex 4 pin power connection, BTW.

So what does all this get you? Well the Windows Experience Index is not a great benchmark, but it will give you some idea of the results. So here is mine;

Processor (2.8GHz) ----------3.8
Memory (1GB pc133) ---------3.8
Desktop Graphics (HD3450) --3.4
Gaming Graphics (HD3450)---5.4
Primary Hard Drive (SSD) -----6.5 (this is limited by the PCI bus not the SSD)

Most will not have Win 7 on their 4300, so they may not have anything to compare this to. Before these changes, most of the scores on my 4300 with Win 7 were below 2 and a number of them were so low they could not be scored so they got a 1. So there are some *significant* improvements here.

Obviously this will never be a barn burner, but for under $100 you can make this a useable machine. Just don't expect to be running a handful of apps at the same time. My 4300 is about as fast as my older Core2Duo laptop. In some ways is it actually faster, (when disk access is significant), and in some ways it is a bit slower (when ram and CPU are significant). The nice thing is that with the swap file on the SSD, that has a lot less of an effect on speed. Between that and the 1GB, the memory based slowdowns are a lot less troublesome.

And yes this all runs off the stock PSU and does just fine. I had to get some Molex/SATA adapters for the SSD and the extra HD I added (I set this up with a 160GB IDE HD, a 160GB SATA HD and the 120GB SSD, plus an IDE DVD-RW and an IDE CD-R), and I had to get some Molex splitters. But in the end, the PSU was still able to handle everything, even when stress tested with OCCT.

The 4550 supports 533FSB which gives you a better selection of CPUs to choose from. I believe it also supports hyperthreading, at least that's what the manual indicates, I have not tried it myself. You will want the most recent BIOS and you must activate HT in the BIOS. But Dell says it will work. That means you effectively get a dual core (well two virtual cores running in one physical core, but it helps). The top processor for the 4550 is the 3.06GHz Northwood P4 533 MHz FSB CPU-Upgrade: Intel Pentium 4 3.06 GHz CPU

The other benefit of the 4550 over the 4300 is that it supports 2GB ram, but even better, it supports DDR as opposed to the pc133 SDRAM used in the 4300. I believe it supports up to DDR400, which if true would be a big improvement over the pc133. But any DDR will be better than the PC133, especially with 2GB and the better CPU/FSB to make use of the ram. M0321 6U214 0M0321 06U214 | Dell Dimension 4550 Motherboard M0321
 

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2 x Corsair 4GB (CMX8GX3M2A1600C)
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EVAG Nvida GeForce GTS450
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3 x Hitachi Deskstar 1GB (Hitachi HUA721010KLA330)
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Bluethunder II
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Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual machines
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AMD FX-8350 Vishera 32nm Technology @ 4.2 GHz default
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 (Socket 942)
Memory
G Skill 32.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 1204MHz (11-13-13-31)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB Super SC ACX 2.0+ with Back Plate
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Titanium HD Audiophile PCIe
Monitor(s) Displays
LG L227WTG x 3
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050 16:10
Hard Drives
238GB Samsung850 PRO SATA Disk Device (SSD)
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM 001-1CH164 (SATA)
1397GB Seagate ST1500DL 003-9VT16L(SATA)
466GB Western Digital WDC WD50 03AZEX-00K1GA0 (SATA) x 2
932GB Seagate ST310005 28AS SATA Disk Device (SATA)
PSU
Enermax Revolution87+ 1000 Watts Gold Certified Power Supply
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Rocketfish Full Tower
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Push Pull 120mm Fans
Keyboard
Logitech K740
Mouse
Logitech G100S Laser LED + Logitech Gamepad F310
Internet Speed
500 mbs down and 30mbs up
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro & Avast and MSE on certain Virtual Machines
Browser
Firefox (Main) Chrome, Internet Explorer (Back Up)
Other Info
Logitech X 230 2.1 Stereo System and 5.1 Yamaha RX V2090
B&W DM6 Monitor Speakers + Center and Surround Speakers
Using Mouse Without Borders (Google it)
There are a lot of older systems that Windows 7 will install on. How well Win 7 runs is usually very marginal. On old Dell's such as these, Dell does not support newer Operating Systems and getting drivers for some of the old hardware is an issue. I used to work the Dell forums and users upgrading some of the older XP systems, even to Vista, at a minimum forced to install a different sound card as the OEM sound (integrated usually) was Dell proprietary and no Vista drivers were available.

All the Dimension line used Dell proprietary (and undocumented) front panel connections to the Motherboard. Not standard ATX connections. This proprietary front panel connection wiring can vary between models. Thus, unless the user was very technically advanced and could trace out all the wiring and then rewire it to standard ATX convention, a non-Dell, even a different Dell model, motherboard could not be installed. Some of the other Dell product lines were saddled with the same proprietary motherboards and front panel connectors. Later Dell's such as the Inspiron desktop line (the Inspiron replaced the Dimension models) have standard ATX connections.

Indianatone has the right advice. Go buy a refurbed PC that has Win 7 and compatible hardware. By the time an old one is upgraded, plus the cost of Win 7 OS, it can be more than a cheap refurbed PC.
 

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Intel i7 6700K
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ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero
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16GB Corsair Dominator
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Intel CPU Graphics
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RealTek
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27" Dell S2719dgf
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2560X1440
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500GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for Win 10 Insider
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EVGA Supernova 750G2
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Microsoft Wireless 2000
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It depends on what you want to be able use the machine for. I ran Win 7 Pro on an Acer Aspire One netbook with a N270 Atom Processor and 1.5G of RAM for about 4 years. The performance was more than adequate for what I was using it for such as spreadsheets, word processing, email, surfing the web, etc... I could even multitask all of these functions at once. What I couldn't do was run CPU or Graphics intensive software such as games.
 

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Home Built desktop, Dell G15 5511 Gaming laptop,MS Surface Pro 7 tablet
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W10 Pro desktop, W11 laptop, W11 Pro tablet (all 64-bit)
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3.7Ghz 8700K i7, i7-11800H, i7-1065G7
Motherboard
ASUS TUF Z370-Pro Gaming in desktop
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16G desktop, 16G laptop, 4G tablet
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AMD Radeon RX580, RTX 3060, Intel Iris Plus
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High Definition Audio (Built-in to mobo)
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Samsung U32J59 32" (2x), 15.6", 12"
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3840x2160, 3840x2160, 1920x1080, 2160x1440
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500G SSD for OS; 2T, 10T & 15T HDDs for Data on Desktop, 1TB SSD laptop, 128G SSD tablet.
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Corsair CX 750M
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Antec 100
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CM 212+
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IBM Model M - used continuously since 1986
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Microsoft Pro IntelliMouse
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400M down 8M up
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Windows Defender
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FireFox
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Built my first computer (8Mhz 8088cpu, 640K RAM, 20MB HDD, 2 360K floppy drives) in 1985 and have been building them for myself, relatives and friends ever since.
It depends on what you want to be able use the machine for. I ran Win 7 Pro on an Acer Aspire One netbook with a N270 Atom Processor and 1.5G of RAM for about 4 years. The performance was more than adequate for what I was using it for such as spreadsheets, word processing, email, surfing the web, etc... I could even multitask all of these functions at once. What I couldn't do was run CPU or Graphics intensive software such as games.
I have an Asus E PC Atom 1.7ghz 2 gb ram and it has an SSD which makes it very usable with long battery life. But these are "modern" machines compared to those old Dell PC's so it is easier to do basic stuff on. No you don't game on them either.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Bluethunder II
OS
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual machines
CPU
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 32nm Technology @ 4.2 GHz default
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 (Socket 942)
Memory
G Skill 32.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 1204MHz (11-13-13-31)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB Super SC ACX 2.0+ with Back Plate
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Titanium HD Audiophile PCIe
Monitor(s) Displays
LG L227WTG x 3
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050 16:10
Hard Drives
238GB Samsung850 PRO SATA Disk Device (SSD)
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM 001-1CH164 (SATA)
1397GB Seagate ST1500DL 003-9VT16L(SATA)
466GB Western Digital WDC WD50 03AZEX-00K1GA0 (SATA) x 2
932GB Seagate ST310005 28AS SATA Disk Device (SATA)
PSU
Enermax Revolution87+ 1000 Watts Gold Certified Power Supply
Case
Rocketfish Full Tower
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Push Pull 120mm Fans
Keyboard
Logitech K740
Mouse
Logitech G100S Laser LED + Logitech Gamepad F310
Internet Speed
500 mbs down and 30mbs up
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro & Avast and MSE on certain Virtual Machines
Browser
Firefox (Main) Chrome, Internet Explorer (Back Up)
Other Info
Logitech X 230 2.1 Stereo System and 5.1 Yamaha RX V2090
B&W DM6 Monitor Speakers + Center and Surround Speakers
Using Mouse Without Borders (Google it)
Well for me, I am working on someone's computer for them, so the choice is theirs. The upgraded machine does all they need now, so spending twice as much would not have made any sense for them. May as well ask, why spend $100k to remodel your home when you can spend $200k to buy a new one? The answer seems obvious to some and obscure to others. But the key to making any decision is access to information. Which is why I posted. Of course a newer computer is a better option in terms of tech. And mostly I build newer stuff. Not current stuff, but much newer than this. There is a sweet spot between bleeding edge tech and low cost older stuff. Obviously this machine is outside that sweet spot. But it is a workable option for some, and I found so much confusing info out there (or downright wrong info) that I thought I'd offer some reliable, tested info for folks to be able to make a choice. I was unsure if Win 7 would be functional on this machine, but I tested it and it actually works pretty well. The other alternative in this case was to reinstall XP, which I felt was a much worse option for an internet facing machine.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & x32
CPU
AMD Phenom II 925
Motherboard
Asus M4A79XTD EVO
Memory
2 x Corsair 4GB (CMX8GX3M2A1600C)
Graphics Card(s)
EVAG Nvida GeForce GTS450
Hard Drives
3 x Hitachi Deskstar 1GB (Hitachi HUA721010KLA330)
One is my primary drive and the other two are running as a mirrored pair (Win 7's built-in RAID 1)
Antivirus
AVG free 2014
Browser
Seamonkey 2.22 (also have IE10 but very rarely use it)
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