Desktop "Repaired" with New Hardware. How Bad is the News?

thalictra

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Almost three years ago, I bought a new desktop from HP, with a "3 day, 9 X 5 Onsite Support, 3 yr" Carepack. See specs here: http://www.sevenforums.com/profile.php?do=extra Lately it began having trouble. I'd be busy, as with many tabs, two browsers, and several other programs running, when the monitor would go black. Not gray, but black as if it had no power. It would last usually around 15 seconds, occasionally till I did a cold boot. When it came back from a 15 second episode, sometimes colors were strange and or parts of the screen remained black. It acted like my ancient '98 had when out of resources. But that was rare --usually it just came back and we kept going. I contacted HP and they tried some diagnostics (as in, they controlled my cursor), with no trouble apparent. The told me I'd have to mail it to them. Knowing they usually format the hard-drive, and seeing this as a lot of trouble, I insisted they send a tech. I believed the problem was collected dust. They said the "onsite" was only for if they knew the problem. Long story short, I got an email today reporting the following "New or Like-New Parts Used in Repair":

(Original) Motherboard Foxconn (Aloe) H-RS880-uATX -->> (replaced by)
System board (motherboard) Aloe GL8E

512MB NVIDIA GeForce G210 [DVI, HDMI, VGA]
-->>Graphic Card - Nvidia Geforce GT440 3G FH PCIEx 16

(I don't know the original)-->>PCIe NVIDIA GT210 512MB standard bracket graphics card (Oribi)

I tried googling, but don't know/recall enough to make sense of the results. The Carepack runs out 2/12, and I'm really afraid of what I'm stuck with.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bitAMD Phenom X4 820 quad-core[2.8GHz. 2MB L2 + ...6GB DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs]512MB NVIDIA GeForce G210
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion p6380t series
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom X4 820 quad-core[2.8GHz. 2MB L2 + 4MB L3shared,
Motherboard
Foxconn (Aloe) H-RS880-uATX
Memory
6GB DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs]
Graphics Card(s)
512MB NVIDIA GeForce G210
Sound Card
Integrated 7.1 channel
Monitor(s) Displays
21.5" Diagonal Full HD Widescreen LCD Monitor
Screen Resolution
1920X1080
Hard Drives
500GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive

LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive
Internet Speed
DSL
Other Info
Seagate® Expansion™ USB 2.0 Portable 500GB Hard Drive
Spin Speed (RPM) 5400 RPM
So they replaced the parts and the PC works fine now? If so, I don't think you will have any other options as they "fixed it". Reread the terms and conditions of your warranty to see if they met them...
 

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Microsoft Windows 8.1 Enterprise 64-bitIntel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 4.7GHz (Over...32 GB 12800 DDR3 Crucial Ballistix SportNVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 SC x 2 (SLI) by EVGA
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Intel DZ77GA-70K
OS
Microsoft Windows 8.1 Enterprise 64-bit
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 4.7GHz (Overclocked)
Motherboard
Intel Corporation DZ77GA-70K, 0066 BIOS version
Memory
32 GB 12800 DDR3 Crucial Ballistix Sport
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 SC x 2 (SLI) by EVGA
Sound Card
(1) Bluetooth Hands-free Audio (2) NVIDIA High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
LG 27" HDMI
Screen Resolution
12920 x 1080 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Intel 120GB SSD (ATA INTEL SSDSC2CT12 SCSI Disk Device)
Western Digital Caviar Black 64M cache 2TB 7200rpm (ATA WDC WD2002FAEX-0 SCSI Disk Device), 3 x WD 150Gb 10k Velociraptor hard drives in RAID 0 (testing)
PSU
Corsair 750w fully modular
Case
Corsair 650D with perforated side panel
Cooling
3 200mm case fans, Intel liquid cooling for CPU w 120mm fans
Keyboard
Logitech backlit
Mouse
Dell
Internet Speed
11Mbps DSL
Antivirus
Windows Defender, MalWareBytes Pro and CCleaner Pro
Browser
Chrome, IE and FireFox (latest versions)
Other Info
Windows Home Server 2011 with 10 clients at home
No, I don't have it back yet. They sent me this information email. The new warranty will be for 90 days only. I was asking if the "new" parts are equivalent to the originals or if I've been down-graded. If the latter, I will only have a short time to battle them. It could easily take longer than 90 days for me to realize that I have lost capabilities.

When I bought it, I'd spent 3 months immersing myself in knowledge of the hardware options, and would have known immediately if I were being ripped-off. After 3 years, that knowledge is gone and would be out-of-date anyway. That's why I am asking for help.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bitAMD Phenom X4 820 quad-core[2.8GHz. 2MB L2 + ...6GB DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs]512MB NVIDIA GeForce G210
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion p6380t series
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom X4 820 quad-core[2.8GHz. 2MB L2 + 4MB L3shared,
Motherboard
Foxconn (Aloe) H-RS880-uATX
Memory
6GB DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs]
Graphics Card(s)
512MB NVIDIA GeForce G210
Sound Card
Integrated 7.1 channel
Monitor(s) Displays
21.5" Diagonal Full HD Widescreen LCD Monitor
Screen Resolution
1920X1080
Hard Drives
500GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive

LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive
Internet Speed
DSL
Other Info
Seagate® Expansion™ USB 2.0 Portable 500GB Hard Drive
Spin Speed (RPM) 5400 RPM
The PC is back and completely non-functional. But clearly this is no longer the place to look for advice.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bitAMD Phenom X4 820 quad-core[2.8GHz. 2MB L2 + ...6GB DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs]512MB NVIDIA GeForce G210
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion p6380t series
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom X4 820 quad-core[2.8GHz. 2MB L2 + 4MB L3shared,
Motherboard
Foxconn (Aloe) H-RS880-uATX
Memory
6GB DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM [3 DIMMs]
Graphics Card(s)
512MB NVIDIA GeForce G210
Sound Card
Integrated 7.1 channel
Monitor(s) Displays
21.5" Diagonal Full HD Widescreen LCD Monitor
Screen Resolution
1920X1080
Hard Drives
500GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive

LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive
Internet Speed
DSL
Other Info
Seagate® Expansion™ USB 2.0 Portable 500GB Hard Drive
Spin Speed (RPM) 5400 RPM
The motherboard being replaced has no performance impact on your system, as a matter of fact it most likely the same board model number with newer revisions.
The graphics card on the other hand was an upgrade, from what you previously had.

If the PC is nonfunctional just re-RMA tell HP to pay the shipping.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64AMD A6-3420M APU4.0 Gb DDR3 838 MHzAMD Radeon HD 6520G
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion g7-1350dx
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
CPU
AMD A6-3420M APU
Memory
4.0 Gb DDR3 838 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 6520G
Sound Card
IDT HD Audio
Screen Resolution
1600x 900
Hard Drives
500GB Hitachi HTS547550A9E384
All the replaced parts are better (newer) than those you had. There you have no issues, parts are OK and should work on your PC. Just thinking the value and specifications of what you got I must say you profited from this.

It is practically impossible to help you or give any suggestions when the only thing we know now after repair is that your computer is "non-functional". Please give us more information, at least:
  • Does the computer boot (start)?
  • If no, what is happening? What if any error messages or other information you can see on screen?
  • Does the display stay on, or is it again turning itself off or do you have distortions on screen?
  • If it boots to Windows, in what way it is "non-functional"?
That being said, here's something a bit more personal:
The PC is back and completely non-functional. But clearly this is no longer the place to look for advice.
I hope that me being a non-native English speaker, I misunderstood what you said. In that case I wholeheartedly apologize.

The following is valid only if I did not misunderstand you:
Your comment seems quite unfriendly and arrogant, given that every single member here is doing this voluntarily. With over 200,000 members you are not the only one asking for help, sometimes it takes days to get first response. Sometimes the issue is of such nature that nobody knows the answer or solution.

You got a valid response, asking you to check your warranty and conditions. More was not possible, you told you had not gotten the PC back then. Two days later you are back, telling that PC is back and non-functional and expressing your disappointment for getting no help in the same post!

I just want to point out that you posted your last post less than half an hour ago, and I am already answering you although it's past 2 AM here and work starts tomorrow (today!) at 9 so I should be in bed.

I really hope I misunderstood you.

Respectfully, Kari, one of the volunteers at the Seven Forums.
 

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Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor6 GBATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP ENVY 17-1150eg
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
CPU
1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Sound Card
Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
Monitor(s) Displays
17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
Screen Resolution
1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
Hard Drives
Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
Cooling
As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbps VDSL
Antivirus
Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
Browser
Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
Apparently Aloe-GL8E and a H-RS880-uATX are HP's and Foxconn's names for the same board. No worries there.

The GT440 is a better card than the GT210.

If HP followed standard practices, the parts could either be new or refurbished.

I think that you did OK with the repair, except that the PC isn't running. If it was mine, I'd check the cabling to see whether something has come loose before requesting an RMA. (In particular, I'd check the SATA cables.) I'm no fan of HP, but I'd assume that the machine was running when it left their repair facility.

I hope that HP doesn't give you too much trouble about return shipping if an RMA is necessary.

This may not be the best place to come for advice on repair of appliance PCs. The enthusiasts who hang out here tend to roll their own PCs. We may not be directly familiar with graphics cards like the GT210, which are about as low-end as it's possible to go in the Geforce 200 series.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1Intel Core I7-3930k16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133eVGA GTX680
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
homegrown
OS
Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core I7-3930k
Motherboard
Asus P9X79 Pro
Memory
16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133
Graphics Card(s)
eVGA GTX680
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Titanium
Monitor(s) Displays
As PA246Q
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1200
Hard Drives
Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black
PSU
PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire
Case
Silverstone FT02
Cooling
Noctua NH-D14
Keyboard
cheap Logitech USB
Mouse
Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB
Internet Speed
6Mb cable
Other Info
Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers
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