Did I get myself into a bind with a clean install?

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I recently upgraded Vista and W7RC to W7 64bit with no problems. I installed 7 on a new disk (WD VelociRaptor 300GB) and have yet to remove the RC and Vista. I want to format the 1T Samsung where RC and Vista were installed and use it for a back-up disk. I have been using a WD 500g for backup which I will now move to another computer.
W7 will not let me format either disk.
Disk 0 is the Samsung
Disk 1 the WD 500g
Disk 2 is the new disk where my new instillation is installed.
Do I need to worry about this disk order?

I think I got myself into a real bind. Reading some other posts it looks like by doing a clean install on my new disk I may still be booting from my old disk with everything but my boot sector on the new disk. Anyone have any ideas how I to fix this with out doing a totally new install?
I changed the disk order in my bios with the new disk first and it will not boot.
When I changed it back again it boots fine, showing tripple boot options:
1.Windows 7
2. Windows 7
3. Vista
 

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Hmm, on your 300GB drive with W7 RTM installed on it, do you have a 100MB partition on it?
 

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We do these extractions here every day and they are ALL fully recoverable:

Disconnect the other drives.

Move your Windows 7 HD to the 0 position and set it to boot after DVD drive in BIOS,

boot into the Windows 7 DVD Repair console and run Startup Repair 3 times to rewrite the MBR to Win7 drive.

Afterward you can plug back in the other drive and format.
 
My new volumn labeled c: has the new instal on a single 300g partition.
Vista and the old 7 are on the 1T drive dual partitions D: and G:
With my old backup drive 500g labeled E: single partition.
See snip below.
 

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Odd, no 100MB partitions on either...
 

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Vista holds the MBR since it was first installed.

Regardless, startup Repair in Win7 is fully automated and runs all former bootrec and bootsect commands so after testing and trying bootrec repairs, it will run the bootsect command to rewrite MBR on the second or third attempt.
 
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My new volumn labeled c: has the new instal on a single 300g partition.
Vista and the old 7 are on the 1T drive dual partitions D: and G:
With my old backup drive 500g labeled E: single partition.
See snip below.

Confirmed. Your MBR is on the old RC/Vista partition.

Disconnect it and Backup partition and move new Win7 into it's cable in 0 slot. You will not now need to change BIOS boot order but check it to be sure it boots after DVD.

Boot into Win7 DVD Repair console and run startup repair 3 times to recover MBR into 7.

Plug back in drive(s) you want to keep, and format.
 
So I should give it a try? Disconnect the two older drives, move the new disk to 0 and set to boot after the DVD.
Run repair 3 times.
Will try it and report back.
For future reference--I should have disconnected the 2 older drives before I did the initial clean install?
thanks
 

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For future reference--I should have disconnected the 2 older drives before I did the initial clean install?

Exactly, unless you intended the multi-boot.

Don't worry, this one is easy. We do a couple per day where we have to move Win7 over to the first partition deleted XP/Vista, sometimes jumping data partitions. It only gets risky when you move/copy data.

Merely rewriting the MBR is automated in Windows 7.
 
Well unfortunately it didn't work.
Here is what I did:
unpluged cables on the 1T samsung and the WD 500 gig
Pluged the WD VelociRaptor 300GB into the port 0
Ran the startup repair now 6 times.
In the bios the WD VR isn't recognized only the DVD drive is recognized, however in the Boot Device Priority the WD VR is there second after the DVD.
When I check the details section of the startup repair it looks like it should be fixed.
Message:
Roor cause found
The partition table does not have a valid partition
Repair Action: Partition tool repair
Result: Completed successsully, error code 0x0
time taken = 2137 ms (the ms change each time I retry)
Any thoughts?
 

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How was the WD VR recognized before when plugged DISK2? Does it have different settings than previous HD?

boot back into Repair>Command Line and run "bootrec.exe /fixboot" and "bootrec.exe /fixmbr" without quotes

or if those don't work "Bootsect.exe /nt60 all /force

The last fix logged should have been repair/rewrite MBR. These commands will do that.
 
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It was recognized as sata 6 and the settings were the same.
It is now recognized as sata 1 and it 2nd order on the boot sequence.

It looked like it was going to work but still won't boot. The ".../force" command said something like"
C: <\\?\ Volume............
Successfully updated NTFS filesystem bootcode
Bootcode was successfully updated on all targeted volumes
 

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Have we tried everything? Should I just go ahead and reinstall? Any other advice?
 

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G.Skill TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory
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Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
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EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular
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I was counting on Startup Repair to mark your C: drive active since it is not in the screenshot you posted.

This is supposed to be automated in Win7 Startup Repair.

But let's make sure:

Boot DVD>Repair console>Recovery tools, open a Command Line, type:

DISKPART
LIST DISK
SELECT DISK # (for Windows 7 disk)
LIST PARTITION
SELECT PARTITION # (for Windows 7 partition)
ACTIVE
EXIT

Then rerun Startup Repair 3 times to get it started up.
 
Didn't work so I went ahead and reinstalled.
Thanks for all the assistance.
 

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Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Build 17134
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Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6850K CPU @ 3.60GHz
Motherboard
ASUS STRIX X99 GAMING Bios 1801
Memory
G.Skill TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080
Sound Card
USB Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
HP Omen 32"
Screen Resolution
2560 x 1440
Hard Drives
Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Samsung 960 Pro 1.0TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
HGST Deskstar NAS 3.5-Inch 3TB HDD
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular
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Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ATX ATX Mid Tower Case
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Corsair H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
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Microsoft 4000
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Could I ask if the Win7 partition was marked active before you tried to run Startup Repair.

I think that was the problem here, and means we need to have that done every time first.

Thanks and enjoy WIndows 7!

/Greg
 
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