Differences between basic and ultimate

[brandonlaw1992]

windows 7 and gateway dx series

i was wondering about putting windows 7 RC on my gateway 64 bit dx series computer, i am downloading the windows 7 64bit RC from microsoft as we speak so let me know if i should do this email me at REMOVED BY ADMIN

 

[TomW]

Latest news is that MS has tossed out the 3 app limit in the Starter Edition.

 

[nate42nd]

^^^^^^ fixed ^^^^^^

 

[bryllex]

good to knew.. hey hmm do u have an idea bout which one should i choose 32 bit or 64 bit.. it rily confuse me ryt now im using the windows 7 evaluation copy 7068 and running 64bit... hmm if i switch to 7100 rc 32 bit should the performance of my desktop will be improve?

hope u can help me.. tnx..

 

[helpfulnerd]

bryllex,

I am running the 32-bit version of RC1 build 7100. Its working very well with 1gig ram and my Dual Core AMD 64 bit processor 1.9 ghz.

I will most likely buy the 64-bit retail version of ultimate when it comes out. I am also about to upgrade my RAM to 4 gigs (maxed out) and then I'll be flying.

If you have a 64 bit processor you should use the 64-bit version of Win7. You'll have a better experience.

Hope that helps. Oh, and RC1 build 7100 is running great. Also max out your RAM, that really helps.

 

[lokiundergod]

Latest news is that MS has tossed out the 3 app limit in the Starter Edition.

I heard that as well, and from what I can tell the focus for consumers is going to be on Starter, Home Premium, and Pro. I've wracked my brains trying to make sense of the large varieties of Windows editions available, but I haven't come up with anything satisfactory. I understand having a separate focus for business and home users, and I can understand a stripped-down version, but beyond that...confusion.

Not to mention the European "N" editions...

 

[helpfulnerd]

lokiundergod

If I was in charge of releasing editions at MS here is what I would do:

1.) Scrap the starter or basic edition. There's no point. Many users will upgrade because they want the eye candy and I think its a waste for users to find out that they got the wrong version, and eneviatbly will be upset that they spent money on something they didn't want.

2) Release two versions of Win7:

- Windows 7 (thats it, not ultimate, no special name) this is for regular users, but has all the features of Ultimate without the title of "Ultimate". If you don't need a certain feature you just don't use it. Kinda like how some Mac users don't use all of the features of OS X, they just use what they need and its there if they do need it one day.
- Windows 7 Enterprise. This version is for companies, business, servers etc. it could have extra features for these companies, like things a server will need.

3) Change the price. MS needs to be more competitive with Mac. I use PC and MAC. I need to use both platforms because I work in the web industry and testing is important. Plus I like having the option to use multiple platforms cuzz I'm a nerd and enjoy both sides equally. Many of my die hard mac friends don't believe me when I say that Win7 is impressive. So if MS hopes to stay completive they should change the pricing to grab (and keep) users on the PC platform. I will have a hard time if MS releases Win7 Ultimate for $349 (full version) like they did with Vista. Thats a ridiculous price compared to $129 for OS X.

I really enjoy Win7, and I will upgrade. But MS needs a reality check. This economy, unemployment, its a hard sell to charge $349 for software. MS should bare that in mind.

C'mon MS keep it simple and affordable. What do you all think? On base, off base, let me know.

 

[SeVeNrOxS]

Thx a lot for info !

 

[bryllex]

thank you

bryllex,

I am running the 32-bit version of RC1 build 7100. Its working very well with 1gig ram and my Dual Core AMD 64 bit processor 1.9 ghz.

I will most likely buy the 64-bit retail version of ultimate when it comes out. I am also about to upgrade my RAM to 4 gigs (maxed out) and then I'll be flying.

If you have a 64 bit processor you should use the 64-bit version of Win7. You'll have a better experience.

Hope that helps. Oh, and RC1 build 7100 is running great. Also max out your RAM, that really helps.

ei thanks for the help... i guess i should go with the 64 bit since my pc works fine with 7068.. i just wait to finish my torrent 7100.. thanks.. us that true that final release of win 7 is augst 2010??

 

[helpfulnerd]

Bryllex

Win7 Beta will expire in August 2009, RC1 Build 7100 is good until March 2010, after March it will start shutting down every two hours. by June it will be completely disabled.

I've read that new computers at the end of the year may ship with Win7, and the retail versions will be on shelfs shortly after.

Hope that helps, what have other people heard?

 

[nate42nd]

There are other threads for this but Best Buy (and others) will have free upgrade offers starting June 27 (i think) and the official release date is Oct 22 2009.

 

[muthumadhu]

Thanks for this information.Its useful to me

 

[TheIgster]

Can someone confirm that the "full image" backup is included in the Home Premium edition? I know it's in the Ultimate of course, as I've been using it during the RC, but I want to keep this. I like the idea of the OS doing a full image backup and not just selected files/folders. It's easy to do an image backup to my external HD with a boot disc created by Windows as well and then poof, back on again if the system crashes.

Thanks for any help.

 

[Tang]

I think that I am in the same boat as a lot of folk - even us semi-geeks. W7 Pro, or Ultimate. When you look at it, we can get the Pro version for half price right now, but not the Ultimate version. And the Ultimate really does not add much more than Bitlocker if I am reading this correctly...
So does anyone have good solid reasons to pay the hundred + more for the Ultimate version?

 

[hiflyr]

There is a group of consumers out there that just want their computers to work. They turn on their computer to check email, surf the web, and leave it off 99% of the time. Home Basic or Starter is for them. They can buy low-end boxes with Semprons or Celerons, and a gig of ram, and they'll run just fine. Not everyone is into the eye candy, or has a need for the extras they'd get with Home Premium or Ultimate.
My mom fits into this category. She would get by just fine with a minimalist version of Win7 - if I ever get her to upgrade from XP Pro.

 

[screwballl]

from everything I read, there are only 3 levels with W7: Home Premium, Professional and Ultimate... its not like Vista with 6 or 7 different levels.

I am a heavy user but I opted to get the pre-order for Home Premium since I really do not need all the rest that comes with the higher priced versions.

 

[Tang]

I just looked - the Pre-order is not for FULL versions - just the upgrades?? Thats too bad ...

 

[nate42nd]

I believe it's for full versions too. Download - Download + disc ($14) - and just the disc.

 

[hiflyr]

I'm all for this pre-order thing. I think Professional will be the way I go. However, I want a full version, not an upgrade. I've browsed around a bit today, and can find nothing on pre-ordering a full install.
Does anyone know if it's going to be like the old days, where you can start with an unpartitioned hard disk, and only put your "old" cd/dvd into the drive long enough to prove you have an original Windows disk? Also, what is the upgrade from - 98? 98SE? ME? 2000? XP? Vista? Do we know yet?
All I can find is the minimal computer specs. According to those, lots of older PCs will be capable of running 7. Of course, I doubt it's advisable to encourage your grandma to upgrade her 1ghz Celeron PC to Win7.

 

[screwballl]

as a tech, I have been using OEM and upgrade discs and versions since Win2000 days without a single problem.... some just asked for a previous OS disc, then swap back to the install disc.