Do i need/have java?

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I was trying to instll a program a couple of weeks ago and it said i needed java installed in order to run and it.
So i installed it but ws having problems and also decided that i could do with the program i was trying to run anyway.

First off should i have it installed anyway?
If not can i check to see if its installed?
If i do then which version do i need?

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It is best not to have Java installed unless you really it. There are some serious security issues with Java and it doesn't appear they will be going away anytime soon.
 

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Hi,
What program needed Java ?
It's usually just a way to get people to download viruses or malware... willingly ;)
http://securitygarden.blogspot.com/2013/01/java-zero-day-again-time-to.html
I personally have removed Java and haven't seen the need for it and have never seen a program request me needing it to do anything as far as downloading a program,
The browser benchmark asks for it but it's in no way manditory to have it installed,
Cheers.

Additional links,
http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/arc...-computer-against-dangerous-java-applets.aspx
http://securitygarden.blogspot.com/2014/01/oracle-java-critical-security-update.html
 
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I personally would avoid any program that required Java. There usually are other programs that will not require it. Java has been having ongoing security issues for some time now. Based on its history, I don't see those issues going away anytime soon, if ever.
 

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I think Apache's Open Office requires Java for the database to work. I was trying to get accustomed to it but as I had long ago past experience using MS Office I uninstalled it & bought MS Office Pro instead.
 

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Do you need Java

You don't need it unless you need to use a program that requires it. Some websites you might want to visit could require you to have Java installed to work. Personally I only install it when needed then remove it afterwards. I haven't needed to install Java in months.

Ways to check if Java is installed that I know of:

Control Panel > Programs and Features

If you have Firefox browser installed: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/

Test Java from the Java website: https://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp

Also see: https://panopticlick.eff.org/ (reports if Java is detected and a few other things).

Removing (or installing) Java: http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/ Or just install Java: https://www.java.com/en/


[EDIT]: If you keep Java installed check out how to disable it in your browser.

How to disable Java in your browser
 
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You shouldn't need it for websites either. IE has a script processor built in. If a site wants more than that, I click on the "X". Way too many other sources for information. Or at least enough to be choosey. ;) And only a few sites even get the privilege of using Flash.
 

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You shouldn't need it for websites either. IE has a script processor built in. If a site wants more than that, I click on the "X". Way too many other sources for information. Or at least enough to be choosey. ;) And only a few sites even get the privilege of using Flash.

Good advice. Personally I use a 64 bit browser with Plugins Click To Play Per Element enabled so that I choose not to allow flash for the entire page content. The 64 bit browser doesn't use JAVA. When I need Java I'll install it and use a 32 bit browswer on a temporary basis. Then I'll remove Java. Will also configure EMET for Java use as it seems likely that even the most up to date version is a security risk as far as unknown exploits are concerned.

I also a “script interpreter” – executing a script requires both the script interpreter, which executes the script, and the script file itself to be trusted. The script interpreter will refuse to open any non-trusted file.
 

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I think Apache's Open Office requires Java for the database to work. I was trying to get accustomed to it but as I had long ago past experience using MS Office I uninstalled it & bought MS Office Pro instead.

Unless I'm wrong you need it to see the help file.

I installed Java, read the help file and then uninstalled Java.

Still use OpenOffice.:)
 

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I think Apache's Open Office requires Java for the database to work. I was trying to get accustomed to it but as I had long ago past experience using MS Office I uninstalled it & bought MS Office Pro instead.

Unless I'm wrong you need it to see the help file.

I installed Java, read the help file and then uninstalled Java.

Still use OpenOffice.:)

No I certainly don't think you are wrong, but I could not get the Open Office database to work unless Java was loaded. I installed Java & it then worked, but I just found I preferred MS Office instead.
 

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I think Apache's Open Office requires Java for the database to work. I was trying to get accustomed to it but as I had long ago past experience using MS Office I uninstalled it & bought MS Office Pro instead.

Unless I'm wrong you need it to see the help file.

I installed Java, read the help file and then uninstalled Java.

Still use OpenOffice.:)

No I certainly don't think you are wrong, but I could not get the Open Office database to work unless Java was loaded. I installed Java & it then worked, but I just found I preferred MS Office instead.

Interesting. I have OO on four Windows 7 computers without Java and it seems fine but I hardly use it since I have so little use for it.

I have Office 2000 which works on Windows 7. Maybe I'll install it so I will have labels, etc.
 

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I think Apache's Open Office requires Java for the database to work. I was trying to get accustomed to it but as I had long ago past experience using MS Office I uninstalled it & bought MS Office Pro instead.

Unless I'm wrong you need it to see the help file.

I installed Java, read the help file and then uninstalled Java.

Still use OpenOffice.:)

OK, here is Office 2000

Looking good.:D
 

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I think Apache's Open Office requires Java for the database to work. I was trying to get accustomed to it but as I had long ago past experience using MS Office I uninstalled it & bought MS Office Pro instead.

Unless I'm wrong you need it to see the help file.

I installed Java, read the help file and then uninstalled Java.

Still use OpenOffice.:)

OK, here is Office 2000

Looking good.:D

Yes it is looking good. Is your Office 2000 the Pro version. I am using Office 2013 Pro as I need Access, Excel, OneNote & Outlook but really don't use many of the others much these days, but it was really only a few dollars more to get the whole program than to try & get it piecemeal.
Actually I am surprised that Office 2000 will work with Win 7, but your indication seems to suggest otherwise.
 

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Unless I'm wrong you need it to see the help file.

I installed Java, read the help file and then uninstalled Java.

Still use OpenOffice.:)

OK, here is Office 2000

Looking good.:D

Yes it is looking good. Is your Office 2000 the Pro version. I am using Office 2013 Pro as I need Access, Excel, OneNote & Outlook but really don't use many of the others much these days, but it was really only a few dollars more to get the whole program than to try & get it piecemeal.
Actually I am surprised that Office 2000 will work with Win 7, but your indication seems to suggest otherwise.

It just says Premium. I uninstalled OO and installed Office this afternoon. Only using Word and the PowerPoint feature. I'm just a hobbyist and not into the other features.
 

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Thanks jadinolf for that info & it fits in with my original post on Java being needed for Open Office's database, which they call Base. So if you use their Base program you have to have Java installed. That's not the reason I uninstalled it though, it was that I just could not seem to get into the right frame of mind to persevere with it.

I hope all works out for you with Office 2000.
 

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I have OO latest version 4.0.1 and do not have java installed.
The help file opens with no problem at all.
 

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I have OO latest version 4.0.1 and do not have java installed.
The help file opens with no problem at all.

I am really flabbergasted now. Oh well.
 

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Malwarebytes (Premium)
Kerish Doctor
I hate it when my flabber gets gasted.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
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