Do Ii Need Both Microsoft Security Essentials and another AV

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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
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5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
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with trackball - no mices
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Trackball mice
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DSL 6000
If the AVAST and MSE miss it my Spybot TeaTimer gets to eat! :cool:
 

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Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bitIntel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 ...8GB@1400MHz Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 4x2GBASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 1GB 256-bit G...
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Hopalong/ Godzilla
OS
Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core
Motherboard
ASUS P7P55D-E PRO
Memory
8GB@1400MHz Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 4x2GB
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
Sound Card
VIA Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VS248H-P 24"; Samsung SyncMaster 941BW 19"ws
Screen Resolution
1920x1080; 1440x900
Hard Drives
Samsung 830 120GB SSD
Intel 320 120GB SSD
Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
PSU
COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RS850-AMBAJ3-US 850W Modular
Case
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN5-GP Black
Cooling
Scythe "Mugen-2 Rev.B" (2 ScytheKaze-Jyuni PWM fans)
Keyboard
Logitech K-320
Mouse
Kensington
Antivirus
Avast Inernet Suite
Browser
IE 9 ; Chrome
If the AVAST and MSE miss it my Spybot TeaTimer gets to eat! :cool:
I used the Teatimer for a while. But it became a bit of a pain in the neck. Replaced it with Winpatrol Pro (for 99 cents). I find that to be more convenient. Even the free Winpatrol will do.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
If the AVAST and MSE miss it my Spybot TeaTimer gets to eat! :cool:
I used the Teatimer for a while. But it became a bit of a pain in the neck. Replaced it with Winpatrol Pro (for 99 cents). I find that to be more convenient. Even the free Winpatrol will do.

I agree. Spybot is a crap.
 

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Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit)Intel® Core™ i5 Processor 2467M (1.60GHz, 3MB...6GB DDR3 System Memory at 1,333MHz (on BD 4GB...AMD Radeon™ HD7550M 1GB DDR3 (Ext. Graphic)
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Samsung NP530U4B-S02IN
OS
Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit)
CPU
Intel® Core™ i5 Processor 2467M (1.60GHz, 3MB L3 Cache)
Motherboard
Samsung Electronics
Memory
6GB DDR3 System Memory at 1,333MHz (on BD 4GB + 2GB x 1)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon™ HD7550M 1GB DDR3 (Ext. Graphic)
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
35.56cm (14.0) SuperBright 300nit HD LED Display
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
1TB S-ATA II Hard Drive (5400RPM) with ExpressCache 16GB SSD
Internet Speed
sucks
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Google Chrome (Sync enabled)
Anytime you add an AV into the picture you're going to get some performance degradation. Add two and you're asking for trouble.

However....From what I've gathered from various posts and personal experience, MSE seems to "Play well" with most AV's. It is one of the rare programs that allows you to run it in conjunction with another AV without causing massive problems

(MSE may cause problem with some AV's, but I haven't heard any mention of it yet)

So it's your choice. You can't be too safe when your on the Wild Wild Web. Not one AV catches them all.

using 2 A/V´s CAN cause trouble, that´s correct, but it depends on which 2 you use...
some A/V´s work together with others.
fx. Avast 5 was DESIGNED to be able to run together with MSE.
so that´s a really good combination, as Avast has some "extra" protection.

a-squared (a2) which is now renamed to Emsisoft Anti Malware (EAM)
also works very well together with (almost) all other A/V´s.
but, you might have to change the settings for the "File Guard"...

i have used a2 as my only "realtime-A/V" for months, and Avast, MSE & MBAM on demand,
just to see if a2 had missed something, but none of them has ever detected anything.

when MSE v2-beta was released i decided to test using EAM & MSE together, and i haven´t noticed any (real) problems.
although a few times i have noticed fx. Firefox "not responding", but that sometimes happens also when i use only EAM.

i have turned off MSE temporarily a few times to see if i notice any difference in performance etc,
a few weeks ago i also added exceptions for each other in both of them, just to see if it would change anything.

NO antivirus-program can detect everything, THAT is in my opinion one VERY good reason to use 2 A/V´s.
if you use the right combination and you don´t have any problems, why not ?
 
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W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Worksta...P4 2,4GHz (at 1,8GHz, "slow" RDRAM, only 400M...2GBNVIDIA QUADRO2 PRO 64MB
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
CPU
P4 2,4GHz (at 1,8GHz, "slow" RDRAM, only 400MHz FSB...)
Motherboard
Intel 850E
Memory
2GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA QUADRO2 PRO 64MB
Sound Card
Yes
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 1702FP
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
Yes
PSU
Yes
Case
Yes
Cooling
Yes
Keyboard
Yes
Mouse
Yes, and i also have Cats...
Internet Speed
University: 100 MBit/s, Home: UMTS 7,2 MBit/s
Other Info
W7 on a DINOSAUR: P2 with 266MHz CPU & 160MB RAM
I agree. Spybot is a crap.
Dinesh
Why? I have been using Spybot for years with no problem with it.

A serious objective question.
I'm always open to know new things.

Mike
 

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Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bitIntel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 ...8GB@1400MHz Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 4x2GBASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 1GB 256-bit G...
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Hopalong/ Godzilla
OS
Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core
Motherboard
ASUS P7P55D-E PRO
Memory
8GB@1400MHz Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 4x2GB
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
Sound Card
VIA Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VS248H-P 24"; Samsung SyncMaster 941BW 19"ws
Screen Resolution
1920x1080; 1440x900
Hard Drives
Samsung 830 120GB SSD
Intel 320 120GB SSD
Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
PSU
COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RS850-AMBAJ3-US 850W Modular
Case
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN5-GP Black
Cooling
Scythe "Mugen-2 Rev.B" (2 ScytheKaze-Jyuni PWM fans)
Keyboard
Logitech K-320
Mouse
Kensington
Antivirus
Avast Inernet Suite
Browser
IE 9 ; Chrome
I agree. Spybot is a crap.
Dinesh
Why? I have been using Spybot for years with no problem with it.

A serious objective question.
I'm always open to know new things.

Mike

Try running winpatrol plus instead and you will find out the answer
 
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Windows 10 Pro x64i7-4770K16Gig DDR3-2400Gigabyte GT740
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PC/Desktop
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Self Built Custom Computer.
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
i7-4770K
Motherboard
Asus Z87 Sabertooth
Memory
16Gig DDR3-2400
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte GT740
Sound Card
Onboard
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Benq 27" - Dell 23' - Benq 22"
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 128g SSD
1xWestern Digital Caviar Green 1tb
2xWestern Digital Caviar Green 2 tb
PSU
Seasonic 760 watt Platinum
Case
Coolermaster Haf - X
Cooling
Noctua NH-C12P CPU Cooler
Keyboard
Logitech illuminated keyboard
Mouse
Logitech Perfomance MX
Internet Speed
Cable = speeds to 20Mbps downsteam and 512kbps upsteam
Antivirus
Avast Internet Security
Browser
Firefox
that's my thinking hackerman1, if you can get 2 AV's to "play well" together, there's no reason to worry about having 2 on your system. Every layer of protection you can get....

I haven't seen a mention in any of the posts that MSE was having a conflict with any AV. It seems to get along with all the AV's. There might be some that it doesn't, but I haven't heard anything yet...
 

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Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1,...Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93GHzNot much with my ADHDATI Radeon HD 4350
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Hell oh Well
OS
Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93GHz
Memory
Not much with my ADHD
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4350
Monitor(s) Displays
24" HDTV/Monitor
Screen Resolution
Blurry after a Scotch or 2
Hard Drives
1 HDD 250 GB, 1 HDD 1 TB, 3 - 1 TB Externals
Case
Don't get on my case...man :D
Cooling
I have an Air Conditioner & Diet Pepsi
Keyboard
Saitek Cyborg
Mouse
10 yr old MS optical mouse that still works
Internet Speed
Never fast enough
Antivirus
Various
Browser
Various
While I dont recommend it to others running two AV's can work and quite nicely.

Mse and ESET works like butter.
 

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Win 8 Release candidate 8400[email protected]4 gigsNvidia 9600M
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HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx
OS
Win 8 Release candidate 8400
CPU
[email protected]
Memory
4 gigs
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 9600M
Sound Card
HD built-in
Monitor(s) Displays
17" Wxga
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Cooling
none
Internet Speed
45Mb down 5Mb up
that's my thinking hackerman1, if you can get 2 AV's to "play well" together, there's no reason to worry about having 2 on your system. Every layer of protection you can get....

I haven't seen a mention in any of the posts that MSE was having a conflict with any AV. It seems to get along with all the AV's. There might be some that it doesn't, but I haven't heard anything yet...

i have also not heard about any problems using MSE together with other A/V´s, but when i installed the first MSE beta, i read a note from Microsoft listing some A/V´s that should be uninstalled before installing MSE.
i was using Avira & a2, neither of them was on the list, so i installed MSE, which didn´t complain about them.

so i had 3 (THREE) A/V´s for a while, without any (real) problems,
i also tested different combinations of those 3, but since MSE seemed to create a few "application not responding" i turned off MSE, and used Avira & a2.

when Avast 5 was released i turned off Avira and tested Avast & a2 instead, and they also work very well together.
i have then turned off Avast temporarily several times to see if i notice any differences in performance etc.
but i haven´t seen any.

and now i´m testing EAM & MSE v2-beta...
 

My Computer My Computer

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W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Worksta...P4 2,4GHz (at 1,8GHz, "slow" RDRAM, only 400M...2GBNVIDIA QUADRO2 PRO 64MB
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
CPU
P4 2,4GHz (at 1,8GHz, "slow" RDRAM, only 400MHz FSB...)
Motherboard
Intel 850E
Memory
2GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA QUADRO2 PRO 64MB
Sound Card
Yes
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 1702FP
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
Yes
PSU
Yes
Case
Yes
Cooling
Yes
Keyboard
Yes
Mouse
Yes, and i also have Cats...
Internet Speed
University: 100 MBit/s, Home: UMTS 7,2 MBit/s
Other Info
W7 on a DINOSAUR: P2 with 266MHz CPU & 160MB RAM
i have also not heard about any problems using MSE together with other A/V´s, but when i installed the first MSE beta, i read a note from Microsoft listing some A/V´s that should be uninstalled before installing MSE.
i was using Avira & a2, neither of them was on the list, so i installed MSE, which didn´t complain about them.

I got the same warning. I ignored it and installed anyway. No problems whatsoever...and I was running McFail "Security Center. (It came with the PC).
 

My Computer My Computer

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Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1,...Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93GHzNot much with my ADHDATI Radeon HD 4350
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Hell oh Well
OS
Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93GHz
Memory
Not much with my ADHD
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4350
Monitor(s) Displays
24" HDTV/Monitor
Screen Resolution
Blurry after a Scotch or 2
Hard Drives
1 HDD 250 GB, 1 HDD 1 TB, 3 - 1 TB Externals
Case
Don't get on my case...man :D
Cooling
I have an Air Conditioner & Diet Pepsi
Keyboard
Saitek Cyborg
Mouse
10 yr old MS optical mouse that still works
Internet Speed
Never fast enough
Antivirus
Various
Browser
Various
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