Downgrade plan for Windows 7 PCs

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Anyone buying a PC with Windows 7 pre-installed will be able to swap it for XP or Vista.

Microsoft has confirmed that the licence conditions under which the software will be sold will allow people to downgrade.

The conditions will apply to both businesses that buy licences for Windows in bulk and consumers that get the operating system on a PC or laptop.

No firm date has been given for the release of Windows 7's final version.

BBC NEWS | Technology | Downgrade plan for Windows 7 PCs
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
AMD Phenom II x4
Motherboard
Gigabyte 880
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce HD
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
2 x 1TB
PSU
Thermalake 550w
Case
XCase
Internet Speed
8MB
The worst marketing decision ever by Microsoft? :huh:
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dilithium Computers/Engineering (Myself) Star date 42.739285.5432.9
OS
Win7 Ultimate x64 on Desktop / Win7 Ultimate x86 on laptop / Win7 x86 Starter on Netbook
CPU
AMD Phenom 965 X4 3.4Ghz cpu Black Edition
Motherboard
Gigabyte 790XT
Memory
12 Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidea Gforce GTX 470
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek hi-fi
Monitor(s) Displays
Lg 3D led 23"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Loads maxstore sata 1 & 2/ loads of partitions + 1Tb Hitachi sata 2. 256Gb Crucial ssd.
PSU
OCZ 700W GameXstream
Case
Artec 10000
Cooling
On board + many case fans
Keyboard
Logitech wireless K350
Mouse
Inferno gaming mouse
Internet Speed
Talk talk. 10Mb
Other Info
My PC was hand built with matchsticks. xbox 360 controller. Printers,fax.........
I wonder who could ever do that. Well 7 to XP is a bit explainable, there are and always be some people who simply don't wanna do anything at least a bit different after they get used to do something in one way. There also might be some kind of rare software that some of the companies use for their own purposes and which somehow doesn't work under comaptibility mode in Vista/W7. But 7 to Vista, that would be simply ridiculous :D.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus Asmobile Z96S
OS
Windows 7 RC
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo T7250 @ 2.0GHz
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia GeForce 8600M GS
Screen Resolution
1280x800
Hard Drives
Samsung HM160HI ATA
wow, this is some piece of strategic decision.... daim it
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 7068
CPU
Dual Core 2.0 Ghz
Memory
2Gb
Graphics Card(s)
ATI X1400
Sound Card
Sigmatell 9200
Monitor(s) Displays
Laptop Dell
Screen Resolution
1050x1680
Hard Drives
120GB
Keyboard
azerty Dell
Internet Speed
fibre obtic 32mbs
Microsoft is possibly trying to give back confidence to a lot of the people they lost when they flopped out vista :huh:
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS M1530
OS
Windows 7 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 T8300 2.4GHz
Memory
4 Gb
Graphics Card(s)
8600 gt
Monitor(s) Displays
laptop
Screen Resolution
High Def!
Hard Drives
320Gb
The thing is with this is that although under the existing agreements customers of suppliers who decide to offer the facility, (possibly for a fee).

Microsoft has not as far as I am aware changed the fact that XP will only covered by security fixes from the 14th of April 2009 (in about 5 days).

Is an unsupported XP OS such a big draw as it was when Vista was released
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
The only reason I can think of to go back to XP would be for business use.

As for Home users people really need to step up and give something else a try.

I am sure they are getting tired of the countless spyware, malware, viruses etc that Xp seems to so easily get.

Windows 7 at least for me I have noticed a HUGE cut down on the crap I get to almost none with my normal internet browsing. Unless Spybot etc don't scan 7 right lol... Then I am screwed.


But then again I can't remember the last time I got a virus. I guess I am just not retarded and don't download everything that shows up on my screen. To be honest getting viruses should be a thing of the past. I wish people would just learn now to download/click on anything that looks like it is not right.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus 15.4" laptop
OS
Windows 7 7100 build
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.5
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
4gig
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 9500 512mb mobile
Monitor(s) Displays
External 26" Samsung TOC (very nice!!)
Screen Resolution
19200 by 1200
Hard Drives
1 320gig 7200 rpm
lol, who the hell would DOWNgrade their PC? :))
XP looks a bit too old, while Vista has its problems. if they say that Win7 will be all fixed and okay, this announcement has just proven that even they aren't sure about how well it will be. omg, looks that all those unhappy customers who have bad-reviewed vista have scared quite a lot the MS team :))
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Apple Mac Pro
OS
Mac OS X 10.5.8 Leopard
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ @2.7 GHz
Memory
2GB DDR2-667
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce 7200GS 256MB
Sound Card
Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ FP222Wa 22"
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
320 GB
Keyboard
Apple
Mouse
Apple
Internet Speed
5 Mb/s
Other Info
(I hate Intel CPUs, *changes it with an AMD Processor* mwuhaha; geez, now i have to change the kernel too...)
Hehe, I've bought a PC just for testing purposes. And I like it! ^^
I work for a large corporation. In spite of the high-tech engineering and manufacturing we do, the standard desktop PC, workstation or laptop is running XP Pro SP2, with IE6. My Dell T5400 workstation, which is only a few months old, has a Vista Business OEM license sticker on the top, but came to me with XP Pro SP2 with IE6. My biggest shock was some months ago was when corporate IT pushed down Microsoft Office 2007 onto everyone's machine. They decided they needed some of the cool features of Active Directory that are supported only in Office 2007. I expect to be retired before they switch to Windows 7. That's the way many big companies do things.

Bye. :cool:
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Brew
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
i7 970
Motherboard
ASUS Rampage III GENE
Memory
9 GB
Graphics Card(s)
9600GT
Monitor(s) Displays
dual 24" Samsung
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Hard Drives
VelociRaptor and 4TB of Hitachi RAID 0
PSU
Thermaltake toughpower W0104RU 650W
Case
Thermaltake LANBOX Lite
Internet Speed
30 Mbps Download 1 Mbps Upload (Speedtest.com)
Microsoft is possibly trying to give back confidence to a lot of the people they lost when they flopped out vista :huh:

I agree, it makes good business sense, and it also shows they must be happy with their new OS, this time.

Lets be fair so far, Win 7 has done pretty good compared to previous OS's ?


.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built
OS
Windows 7 Build 7077
CPU
IntelCore 2 Duo E6420 (2.13Ghz) - OC @ 3.2Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte 965P-DS3 rev 3.3
Memory
OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400 Gold GX XTC Dual Channel - 4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS
Sound Card
Sound Blaster X Fi Xtreme Gamer Sound Card
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 1707FP(Digital) x 2
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024
Hard Drives
x 2 SATA II Seagate Barracuda 250GB
PSU
Hyper R 580W Modular
Case
Jeantech Aqua
Cooling
Arctic Cooling - Freezer 7 Pro
Keyboard
Saitek Eclipse
Mouse
Logitech MX 500
Internet Speed
WAY too slow
I work for a large corporation. In spite of the high-tech engineering and manufacturing we do, the standard desktop PC, workstation or laptop is running XP Pro SP2, with IE6. My Dell T5400 workstation, which is only a few months old, has a Vista Business OEM license sticker on the top, but came to me with XP Pro SP2 with IE6. My biggest shock was some months ago was when corporate IT pushed down Microsoft Office 2007 onto everyone's machine. They decided they needed some of the cool features of Active Directory that are supported only in Office 2007. I expect to be retired before they switch to Windows 7. That's the way many big companies do things.

Bye. :cool:

I feel bad for you being stuck with IE6 lol. No tabs, no security, nothing but crap crap crap ;)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus 15.4" laptop
OS
Windows 7 7100 build
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.5
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
4gig
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 9500 512mb mobile
Monitor(s) Displays
External 26" Samsung TOC (very nice!!)
Screen Resolution
19200 by 1200
Hard Drives
1 320gig 7200 rpm
Can't really see why downgrades should be offered, its a retrograde step, its trying to keep obsolete systems, that need to discarded,

Computing is an ongoing thing, 8 years of XP is enough, how many have tried to "tart it" up with bits from Vista, they're living in a dream world.

I think one of the main reasons (excuses) is upgrading the hardware.

Sorry M/S, its a mistake, you're making a rod for your own back, there are too many dinosaurs out there.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home build.
OS
Vista Ultimate 32 bit, Win 7 Pro 32 bit, Win 7 Pro 64 bit
CPU
Intel i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67 GHZ, OC 3.7 GHZ
Motherboard
Asus P7P55D
Memory
4 Gig
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTS450
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 24"
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
1000 GIG
1000 GIG
PSU
650
Case
Antec Nine Hundred Two
Internet Speed
14 MB (APPROX)
Yes would not take the option to go with an earlier system . Windows 7 rocks ennit ;.)
 

My Computer

OS
windows 7077
CPU
AMD Athlon 64X2 dual core processor 5000+ 2600 Mhz
Motherboard
FOXCONN A6VMX
Memory
4 gig 8000 Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
N-Vidia Geforce 8400 GS
Sound Card
C-Media
Screen Resolution
1440 X 900 75 hertz
Hard Drives
c: 465.66 GB

I:372.61 GB external usb drive
Cooling
fans
Mouse
Microsoft wireless laser mouse
Internet Speed
8meg

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dilithium Computers/Engineering (Myself) Star date 42.739285.5432.9
OS
Win7 Ultimate x64 on Desktop / Win7 Ultimate x86 on laptop / Win7 x86 Starter on Netbook
CPU
AMD Phenom 965 X4 3.4Ghz cpu Black Edition
Motherboard
Gigabyte 790XT
Memory
12 Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidea Gforce GTX 470
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek hi-fi
Monitor(s) Displays
Lg 3D led 23"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Loads maxstore sata 1 & 2/ loads of partitions + 1Tb Hitachi sata 2. 256Gb Crucial ssd.
PSU
OCZ 700W GameXstream
Case
Artec 10000
Cooling
On board + many case fans
Keyboard
Logitech wireless K350
Mouse
Inferno gaming mouse
Internet Speed
Talk talk. 10Mb
Other Info
My PC was hand built with matchsticks. xbox 360 controller. Printers,fax.........
Can't really see why downgrades should be offered, its a retrograde step, its trying to keep obsolete systems, that need to discarded,

Computing is an ongoing thing, 8 years of XP is enough, how many have tried to "tart it" up with bits from Vista, they're living in a dream world.

I think one of the main reasons (excuses) is upgrading the hardware.

Sorry M/S, its a mistake, you're making a rod for your own back, there are too many dinosaurs out there.


This is what I exactly thinks of this downgrade. People has to stop thinking that their computers are everlasting like they are. An hardware upgrade, when done correctly, will be worth another 10 years for some people/enterprise. Upgrading from a Pentium III to a Core 2 Duo is huge difference and you will stop having performance issues.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom build
OS
Windows 10 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard
Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master
Memory
G.Skill 3600Mhz CL16 16GB × 4
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming
Sound Card
On-board
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell Alienware AW3418DW
Screen Resolution
3440x1440
Hard Drives
1×Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus 2TB nvme SSD (System, internal)
2x4TB Western Digital Blue (Internal)
1x4TB HDST 7200RPM (Internal)
PSU
Seasonic Focus Plus 850W Platinum
Case
Corsair 680X
Cooling
Stock fans + 3× Corsair QL120, Corsair H100i Platinum
Keyboard
Logitech K350
Mouse
Logitech M510
Internet Speed
120Mbits dl - 20Mbits up
Antivirus
ESET NOD32 Antivirus
Browser
Firefox (latest version)
Other Info
Headphones : Audio-Technica ATH-M50x
Scanner : Canon Canoscan LiDE 220 + Plustek OptiBook 4800
I kind of want to say anyone with a Pentium 2,3,or 4 should be or already have replaced the systems if you can afford it.

The speed difference between Pentium 4 and a core 2 duo or quad is just outstanding.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus 15.4" laptop
OS
Windows 7 7100 build
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.5
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
4gig
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 9500 512mb mobile
Monitor(s) Displays
External 26" Samsung TOC (very nice!!)
Screen Resolution
19200 by 1200
Hard Drives
1 320gig 7200 rpm
I am with Adamd. I NEVER get viruses on XP...viruses are caused by stupid users. The one time I got infected, I had a feeling before I clicked on that porn banner my computer would get screwed up.haha Jk about the banner, but it is a point I would like to get across to parents with kids that compling about XP being so slow (thank god they dont have vista lol)!!! Although I will use XP for years to come, due to business reasons...I would recommend 7. I have been using it extensively and to be honest...except for no X-Fi on my ROG sound card, and the punkbuster issue, I have not had ANY problems afte build 7057. 7070 is faster I noticed though.
Now back to the issue, downgrading is still usable to many companies, but like some have said, unless there is a specific reason to use XP, Windows 7 will be a fresh change. The one thing that irritates me, is Ultimate editions, which cost the most, dont downgrade??? WTF is that, anything that costs more than buisiness edition should have it in. And for Home Premium, should be able to downgrade to XP Home at least. It is fair...after all if XP is being dropped for support, by any other legal standards (similar to royalties) it should become open lisence. But I forgot, Micro$oft is exempt from following copyright and privacy laws.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 (Build 7068)
The thing is with this is that although under the existing agreements customers of suppliers who decide to offer the facility, (possibly for a fee).

Microsoft has not as far as I am aware changed the fact that XP will only covered by security fixes from the 14th of April 2009 (in about 5 days).

Is an unsupported XP OS such a big draw as it was when Vista was released

I thought support was going to end in 2014.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 400 / HP ProBook 4510s
OS
Windows 7 Build 7277
CPU
Intel Pentium D @ 2.8/Intel Centrino @ 2.10GHz
Motherboard
Dell DXP051
Memory
2GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
GeForce 7300 LE / Intel Integrated Graphics 4 Series
Sound Card
Realtek AC'97
Monitor(s) Displays
17" CRT (for now) / 15.6" LCD / 65" DLP Mitsubishi
Screen Resolution
1280 x 768 / 1920 x 1080i
Hard Drives
250GB WD IDE
160GB WD SATA
320GB Samsung SATA
500GB WD Caviar Green SATA
250GB WD SATA in HP ProBook
Case
Dell XPS 400
Cooling
2 fans (1 case, 1 CPU)
Keyboard
Dell Slim Standard Keyboard / Full Keypad w/ number pad
Mouse
Dell 3-Button Mouse / Logitech Wireless Mouse
Internet Speed
29mbps Down; 3.0mbps Up
I thought support was going to end in 2014.
Microsoft does whatever it wants. I highly doubt it would go to 2014, that would defeat the purpose in selling copies of "more secure" operating systems. If you keep updating a program then there is no need to upgrade to a new one!!!
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 (Build 7068)
The provision of free support ends for XP Today, although Microsoft will continue to supply security updates only until 2014.

All development and bug fixes for XP has now finished.

If you are a business user who wishes to continue using XP, various support options are available for purchase from Microsoft, (and others).

This is a part of the normal life cycle for a Microsoft operating system, although, due to various external pressures, this has taken longer than usual with XP
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
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