External HD NTFS -> Raw Mmmmmm

[ZMan]

What's wrong with a live Linux. Here is my version of an emergency kit:

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/287439-emergency-kit-save-your-files-dead-os.html

Sorry I thought you meant something else. >_<

 

[ZMan]

Please post a screenshot of Windows Disk Management and Partition Wizard as requested in my post #6 for the record..

What exactly is the problem you face when trying to copy? Can you elaborate?

And yes, as whs proposed trying to copy with Live Linux is the next step.

He proposed his baby but I shall propose my baby. You have the choice to pick up the baby you like or think you will be comfortable with.

Download Lucid Puppy (Ubuntu Compatible Build) 5.2.8 ISO from Long-Term-Supported WaryPuppy (LTS)

Read this post http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware...ly-unrecognisable-hard-drive.html#post2936753 and create a Live Lucid Puppy pendrive. ( Back up all data in the pendrive beforehand for you will lose it all when Rufus formats the pendrive during the process of creating the Lucid Puppy pendrive.)

Boot from the Lucid Puppy pendrive and check whether you can recover the data.

[Go to the topic Recovering files from the non-bootable Internal Drive: in this thread Lucid Puppy way to recover files from a non-bootable computer on how-to. In your case it will be your external drive.]

I try Lucid Puppy, but was only able to see and download 1GB off the drive as I couldn't go any deeper in some folders.

 

[jumanji]

I am afraid I do not understand what you are saying.

As I understand you have only two folders in that drive - "Amazon Cloud" and "Reference Pictures Sorting needed". Apparently both these together occupy some 2TB of space ( Free Space 768.01GB)

If you can see those folders in Lucid Puppy you should copy both these folders to another drive and then try to access those folders and its contents from that new drive.

Please do that and report.

( My own presumption in this case is that your 3TB external drive has developed bad sectors and you should immediately back up the data to another drive to retrieve whatever good data is still there.That is what you have been advised. You may also understand if indeed your 3TB external drive has developed bad sectors, the data in those bad sectors is already lost. You won't see it either in Lucid Puppy or the new drive. You should be happy that you could atleast save whatever data is in good sectors before those are gobbled up with increasing number of bad sectors.)

 

[ZMan]

I can get into the first folder Amazon Cloud and than go one level down. In some cases I can copy some data in many others I can't as the data won't allow me to be seen are be copy. But I can see the icons and data in the folders. So over all I only got 1GB worth of data. I'm stuck on what to do now. That is with using Lucid Puppy. The error it gives is error for source file, input/output.

 

[Layback Bear]

I'm somewhat confused.
If you have your data in Amazon Cloud why can't you just get the data from the Cloud using the internet?

 

[ZMan]

I'm somewhat confused.
If you have your data in Amazon Cloud why can't you just get the data from the Cloud using the internet?

It's in a folder called Amazon Cloud, it was data I was going to upload before the extrenal HD had problems. The issue is I can't access the folders below the second tier of folders. I can see the data in there just not access even when I booted to Lucid Puppy, when I got in to Lucid Puppy I was able to see some files but not below the first tier. There where I'm at now.

 

[ZMan]

I am afraid I do not understand what you are saying.

As I understand you have only two folders in that drive - "Amazon Cloud" and "Reference Pictures Sorting needed". Apparently both these together occupy some 2TB of space ( Free Space 768.01GB)

If you can see those folders in Lucid Puppy you should copy both these folders to another drive and then try to access those folders and its contents from that new drive.

Please do that and report.

( My own presumption in this case is that your 3TB external drive has developed bad sectors and you should immediately back up the data to another drive to retrieve whatever good data is still there.That is what you have been advised. You may also understand if indeed your 3TB external drive has developed bad sectors, the data in those bad sectors is already lost. You won't see it either in Lucid Puppy or the new drive. You should be happy that you could atleast save whatever data is in good sectors before those are gobbled up with increasing number of bad sectors.)

Hey jumanji do you understand what I said above?

 

[jumanji]

"If you can see those folders in Lucid Puppy you should copy both these folders to another drive and then try to access those folders and its contents from that new drive."

Please do that and check whether you can access the data.

On the new drive where you have copied the two whole folders, open those in Windows 7 and post a screenshot of what you can read and what you cannot read.

May be it requires more heads to see what is happening or understand your language.. ( Your language is still confusing to me. What do you mean by "I can see the data but I cannot access?" Only when you access something you can open the folder/file accessed and see the data in it.)

 

[ZMan]

I can see the folder of the first level in Lucid Puppy than I go down a level and see the next tier of folders. I copy some to the recovery folder and was only able to get 1GB worth of data before Lucid Puppy tells me there is a input/output error. I try copying other folders and it does the same thing and won't allow me to copy the data. The data that I was able to copy (1GB) does show up and work in Windows 7. So, I can see the folders and the content of the data there, AKA icons, but I can't access it even in Lucid Puppy.

 

[ZMan]

I'm somewhat confused.
If you have your data in Amazon Cloud why can't you just get the data from the Cloud using the internet?

Also, Amazon Cloud don't auto sync you have to tell it went to sync stuff to the cloud. It's not like Dropbox are Google Drive.

 

[jumanji]

Going back to your post #1, Windows was reporting "Data error ( cyclic redundancy check)". When you tried to run checkdisk, it refused saying it can't run on a RAW drive. This problem sorted out by itself ( I still don't know how) and you were able to run check disk and it ran to completion.Partition Wizard shows that the GPT structure is fine and so it is not a partition related problem.Now Lucid Puppy also says error for Source file Input/output error.

As one who has been dealing with data recovery ( though not a data recovery professional ) I can only visualise it as due to bad sectors. But in this case it appears that I may be wrong. The problem of your inability to access the lower tier folders can be due to the way you had created the folder structure and named those or some corruption that had taken place in the folder structure. I may not be able to deal with such a problem.

To clear that bad sectors are not the cause , you may run SeaTools for Windows and check the health of your drive.If it does not report any problems with Quick Test and Extended test - which of course will take a long time - then it squarely revolves around the folder structure/ corruption and I shall pass it on to other experts to deal with it.

Let us wait and see what other experts have to say.

 

[ZMan]

Going back to your post #1, Windows was reporting "Data error ( cyclic redundancy check)". When you tried to run checkdisk, it refused saying it can't run on a RAW drive. This problem sorted out by itself ( I still don't know how) and you were able to run check disk and it ran to completion.Partition Wizard shows that the GPT structure is fine and so it is not a partition related problem.Now Lucid Puppy also says error for Source file Input/output error.

As one who has been dealing with data recovery ( though not a data recovery professional ) I can only visualise it as due to bad sectors. But in this case it appears that I may be wrong. The problem of your inability to access the lower tier folders can be due to the way you had created the folder structure and named those or some corruption that had taken place in the folder structure. I may not be able to deal with such a problem.

To clear that bad sectors are not the cause , you may run SeaTools for Windows and check the health of your drive.If it does not report any problems with Quick Test and Extended test - which of course will take a long time - then it squarely revolves around the folder structure/ corruption and I shall pass it on to other experts to deal with it.

Let us wait and see what other experts have to say.

A few things I don't understand is how it became NTFS when it was GPT? The folders and data can't always be access as well when going below the third tier folder structure.

Amazon Cloud Drive and Pictures Waiting To Be Sorted.

ACD --> Videos --> Anime, TV Series, Cartoons, etc.
Pictures Waiting to Sorted --> Pictures and a ton of them no folder at all.

I done a scan with SeaGate already and it labels it as nothing wrong with it. With the external HD plug in it takes over a 2 to 3 minutes before my system boots up and sees the external HD. Just some follow up information.

 

[jumanji]

MBR and GPT only define the partition structure. The file system in both cases will normally be NTFS.

Since bad sectors have already been ruled out, it shall be for other experts to chip in and sort out of the problem.

So keep watching.

On my part, I would suggest the following:

Download install and run GetDataBack Simple Data Recovery https://www.runtime.org/data-recovery-software.htm ( Also read all documentation on that page.) The initial scan will be done at Level 1. Check whether it shows all your folder structure and files in it. You can also preview the files and check all your files are OK. If Level 1 does not show anything, you can try Level 2, Level 3 and Level 4 in that order.).If it shows all your folders and files, you preview those and satisfy your self that everything is fine, you have to buy a license (USD 79) to copy those to another drive.

In case you do not want to buy , and you will be happy if you can recover the files without the folder structure and original file names you can try PhotoRec which is free. http://www.sevenforums.com/software/193467-guide-using-photorec-recovery-software.html
(Straight away go to the topic Recovery in it.)

Keep these two options open in case other experts also can't help resolve the issue.