Fake ebay Nvidia card sold as GT630, but it is not

[sdowney717]

https://picasaweb.google.com/105248911187594415233/FakeEbayCardSeptember32015
I took some pics that show the card has been shut down by windows.

I could not get the card to work as a GT630 in either Windows or Linux, so I opened a case for a return.
I was wondering if anyone else has ever seen such a thing?
Is there a utility to expose the flaw or the fraud? It came with a driver disk, but I think it is also a fake somehow as the card does not work properly as a GT630 should.

 

[yomama365]

Driver issues, not fake gpu

 

[sdowney717]

Regardless, it is useless if can not be installed to work like it should, dont you think?

 

[yomama365]

Whats wring exactyl

 

[sdowney717]

Drivers from Nvidia fail to install at all is the problem.

There is a driver disc that will install an old driver. But it is not upgradeable from Nvidia. Install an upgraded driver and it fails.

I ran it and generated an Nvidia report

NVIDIA System Information report created on: 09/03/2015 17:48:57
System name: SCOTTUPSTAIRSWI

[Display]
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64-bit (Service Pack 1)
DirectX version: 11.0
GPU processor: GeForce GT 630
Driver version: 341.44
Direct3D API version: 10
CUDA Cores: 96
Core clock: 540 MHz
Shader clock: 1188 MHz
Memory data rate: 532 MHz
Memory interface: 128-bit
Total available graphics memory: 4095 MB
Dedicated video memory: 2048 MB DDR2
System video memory: 0 MB
Shared system memory: 2047 MB
Video BIOS version: 60.84.54.00.55
IRQ: 16
Bus: PCI Express x16
Device Id: 10DE 0F00 000010DE

[Components]

NvGFTrayPluginr.dll 2.5.14.5 NVIDIA GeForce Experience
NvGFTrayPlugin.dll 2.5.14.5 NVIDIA GeForce Experience
nvui.dll 8.17.13.4144 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdsync.exe 8.17.13.4144 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdplcy.dll 8.17.13.4144 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdbat.dll 8.17.13.4144 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdapix.dll 8.17.13.4144 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
NVCPL.DLL 8.17.13.4144 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvCplUIR.dll 7.8.840.0 NVIDIA Control Panel
nvCplUI.exe 7.8.840.0 NVIDIA Control Panel
nvWSSR.dll 6.14.13.4144 NVIDIA Workstation Server
nvWSS.dll 6.14.13.4144 NVIDIA Workstation Server
nvViTvSR.dll 6.14.13.4144 NVIDIA Video Server
nvViTvS.dll 6.14.13.4144 NVIDIA Video Server
NVSTVIEW.EXE 7.17.13.4144 NVIDIA 3D Vision Photo Viewer
NVSTTEST.EXE 7.17.13.4144 NVIDIA 3D Vision Test Application
NVSTRES.DLL 7.17.13.4144 NVIDIA 3D Vision Module
nvDispSR.dll 6.14.13.4144 NVIDIA Display Server
NVMCTRAY.DLL 8.17.13.4144 NVIDIA Media Center Library
nvDispS.dll 6.14.13.4144 NVIDIA Display Server
PhysX 09.15.0428 NVIDIA PhysX
NVCUDA.DLL 8.17.13.4144 NVIDIA CUDA 6.5.45 driver
nvGameSR.dll 6.14.13.4144 NVIDIA 3D Settings Server
nvGameS.dll 6.14.13.4144 NVIDIA 3D Settings Server

Something is not right about this card. The driver disk has 'international' in the driver directory.

 

[sdowney717]

DXDIAG shows this

So any ideas on Driver Version: 9.18.13.4144?

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 630
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GT 630
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0F00&SUBSYS_000010DE&REV_A1
Display Memory: 4067 MB
Dedicated Memory: 2019 MB
Shared Memory: 2047 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: SyncMaster
Monitor Id: SAM030D
Native Mode: 1680 x 1050(p) (59.883Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 9.18.0013.4144 (English)
Driver Version: 9.18.13.4144
DDI Version: 10
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 2/3/2015 23:56:28, 17559432 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4C40-11CF-5E63-0D201CC2C435}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0F00
SubSys ID: 0x000010DE
Revision ID: 0x00A1

 

[sdowney717]

I searched for that driver and I found this and it shows international driver

nVidia graphics drivers v341.44 (8×)

'File name 341.44-desktop-win8-win7-winvista-32bit-international-whql.exe'

I should try to download and install and see if it works. well they dont download.

 

[yomama365]

Woah, im not experienced with nvidia just amd. Does it fail to install saying there isn't a card? Check your dot net runtimes ect. Maby the installer requires dot net and there's an issue preventing installation. Does it even detect the card, has any damage been done to windows before hand? And nvidia cards dont support Linux fully anyway.

 

[Xenoid]

Hello sdowney717,

Please, download latest version of Display Driver Uninstaller, run it from safe mode and remove all NVIDIA, AMD, INTEL display drivers from your system.
Restart the computer and install latest nVidia GeForce display drivers (355.82 at this moment).
You will need x64 version of driver, if you are running 64-bit operating system, for example, this http://uk.download.nvidia.com/Windo...n8-win7-winvista-64bit-international-whql.exe
Let us know, if it will successfully install.

P.S.: "international" only means, there are all languages included in the package and your system default language will be selected automatically.

 

[ThrashZone]

NVidia cards dont support Linux fully anyway.

A driver to Linux is just a driver actually
Driver manager should offer a few different drivers for NVidia products,
If Linux has an issue it's most likely the gpu's bios are messed up by using a bios hack and just failed badly :/
Which Linux might be able to fix it but is it worth it to search for on obviously a meager card from ebay ?
Send it back to whom ever you bought it from.

 

[sdowney717]

I managed to get the Linux driver nvidia-304 and nvidia-340 installed and working using the xorg-edgers ppa instructions.
How to install the latest Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu 14.04 Trusty Tahr

But version 346 and 355 totally fail?

I will try the uninstaller program and reinstall the 355.82 mentioned today this am and post back.

 

[sdowney717]

Woah, im not experienced with nvidia just amd. Does it fail to install saying there isn't a card? Check your dot net runtimes ect. Maby the installer requires dot net and there's an issue preventing installation. Does it even detect the card, has any damage been done to windows before hand? And nvidia cards dont support Linux fully anyway.

It either fails to install the nvidia driver using a driver downloaded from nvidia. Or maybe it installs-writes it to disk and does not work at all.

 

[sdowney717]

I ran the uninstaller in safe mode, rebooted and it showed vga adapter.
So then installed the suggested 355.82 driver fresh download, it goes through the install motions, rebooted, and comes up with same error as before, device has been stopped because it reports a problem.

here are some more pics
uninstaller

results in uninstalled driver here after restart

nvidia 355.82 installing

installer finished, so I reboot

reboot shows failure

https://picasaweb.google.com/105248...CardSeptember32015?authuser=0&feat=directlink

 

[sdowney717]

I think whoever made this card (made in china, with no names on it anywhere), put together something as cheap as they could, maybe even re-flashed the chip bios, and cobbled together a driver.
Who knows what the card really is for GPU, could even be a mobile GPU on a pcie desktop card. No downloadable drivers so far have worked, if the driver disc that came with the card ever fails, I could never install the card again in windows.

If i install this driver, then in device manager, right click update, MS will install Driver Version: 9.18.13.4144
but that is all I can do. that driver when searched seems to point to laptops. So I tried downloading nvidia mobile 355 driver, and it also fails.

 

[sdowney717]

llegal Nvidia branded gpu's on ebay and amazon.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...egal-nvidia-branded-gpus-on-ebay-and-amazon-/
What do you think, some of these cards are truly fakes.
What would you do?

I also noticed the core clock for the card is showing a lot lower than what Nvidia says it should be.

GeForce GT 630 | Specifications | GeForce


GPU Engine Specs:
Graphics card version GT 630 D3 GT 630 G5 GT 630 (Kepler)
CUDA Cores 96 96 384
Graphics Clock (MHz) 700 810 902
Processor Clock Tester(MHz) 1400 1620 1804

mine says like 540 graphics clock

here is mine

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64-bit (Service Pack 1)
DirectX version: 11.0
GPU processor: GeForce GT 630
Driver version: 341.44
Direct3D API version: 10
CUDA Cores: 96
Core clock: 540 MHz
Shader clock: 1188 MHz
Memory data rate: 532 MHz

 

[yomama365]

Can we have a pic of your card itself too?
You my have the stock cooler or a different one, that's a tell tails sign its fake, it either has the official coolers from various manufacturers or some odd aftermarket cooler. But even then its not certain, you have nothing to lose at this point, take the cooler off and look at the chip, identify what gpu the chip is, if anything it can be used as proof against the seller if it does turn out to be fake.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yea I wouldn't start disassembling it just simply return for refund.

 

[sdowney717]

Link with pics
NVIDIA GeForce GT630 2048MB 128bit PCI E DDR2 HDMI VGA DVI | eBay

Is a Galaxy Nvidia a good card that Nvidia drivers will work ok on?

 

[ThrashZone]

Not sure why you would want a ddr2 card ?
But if it's a NVidia card the drivers should work if not hacked

 

[sdowney717]

I just roll backed the dead driver to VGA, then windows update said it has an optional driver for the card from 08/25/2015.
So I installed that, card in properties looked ok, windows says reboot. One reboot card is not working, windows has again stopped the device due to reported problems.

I found GPU-z program. SO I guess I will install the only driver that works off the disc and see if GPU-z shows anything odd.