Step by Step: FO3 no issues with Win 7
First of all, my guess is that very few have the patience to read 44 pages, almost 2 years worth of similar issues when your game is paused in the background looking for a quick fix as your itching to play. I was one of the people who actually read the whole thing, not just this forum, but countless others.
One thing i noticed is that everyone is pointing fingers EVERYWHERE; the OS, the GPU, the RAM, FO3, overheating, lack of power from Power Supply, faulty this, faulty that... RELAX PEOPLE.
There are so many possibilities that people just don’t have the patience and give up. This is my advice to everyone that is experiencing any issues with FO3.
*** Note: The first 3 points are just eliminating the obvious. ***
1. Spare the forum and yourself the time and Google yourself the requirements that FO3 needs. If your PC can’t handle the game, or are just on the borderline, don’t even bother with it. Either upgrade your PC or settle with FO2.
2. If your Windows 7 is not an authentic version, you will ALWAYS have issues. If you don’t have issues now, you will have issues in the near future. There have been people on the forums saying, “…I had no issues for months and all of a sudden my game crashed..” well that’s because windows updated and realized something wasn’t up to par.
3. Same thing goes with FO3, if you don’t have a legit copy; you are looking into having most of the issues that are on these 44 pages.
*** Read the next part only if you are not one of the people in points 1-3 ***
4. As much of a pain that it is, the only way to break down the issue is to start from scratch. Remember, not everyone’s solution will be the same. Format and install a fresh new Win 7.
5. UPDATE EVERYTHING!! I can’t stress that enough. Why do you think updates exist? They are there for a reason, obviously something didn’t work or wasn’t compatible with something else therefore a patch had to be created. Put yourself in the FO3 developers shoes for a moment. They are told to fix an issue we found… how will they do it? They will come up with a patch that is compatible according to the most up to date patches available by the OS and the GPU. They will not create their game and tell windows or nvidia “Hey, change your setting to this so FO3 can work” no… they have to go according to the OS.
I’m not sure if the order in which you do it makes a difference but I like to start with what is being accessed first when I turn on my computer. BIOS would be the first thing followed by the CHIPSET, then everything else on the MB that’s integrated.
Followed by Windows 7, GPU, and FO3. This is pretty much all you need to run the game.
***At this point your game should work. Remember, this isn’t a new game anymore. At this point in time, the game has been around long enough for any vendor to come up with the patches necessary to make this work. So with you having everything up to date and your still having issues after this point. That’s when you can get into specifics***
6. POWER SUPPLY: Lets look at having the power to actually run the hardware you have before you start pointing fingers. If your power supply is less then 500W these days, please refer to point #1. There are some tools you can Google that will calculate the Wattage needed to run everything you have inside your computer. If your Power supply is producing less power than your calculation specifies. Buy a more powerful Power supply before you continue.
7. RAM: Run task manager or a similar tool of your choice that displays the performance of your PC during a transaction. Keep this in view as you run RO3 windowed, keeping an eye on your PF usage. Watch it increase as you load a game and start playing. If this is reaching the limit your PC can handle and FO3 crashes around the same time. This may be your issue. Try it a few times for consistency. You will most likely need to upgrade your RAM as I haven’t come across any memory leaks in the coding, also just as a precautionary run a RAM utility tool to make sure your RAM has no other issues.. If you are nowhere near the limit and still crashes, you can scratch RAM off your list.
8. OVERHEATING: Google and download a CPU Temperature Monitoring utility. It is good to have a temperature reading of both your CPU and GPU on the same window. I used Real Temp myself for this. With the same concept run the game in windowed state so you can see the temps increase. If your CPU reaches the 50 degrees mark you can start worrying. The GPU can reach temperatures beyond this but investigate your own vendor and find out what the limits are. I got an INTEL Core 2 Quad 2.66 and my CPU temp hardly goes beyond 42 degrees with FO3. My GPU NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT 1GB reached only 50 degrees at one point in a 2 hour session of FO3, even though I read somewhere that the limit is 90degrees. Like I said, find out your limits and if you are reaching these limits, get a better cooling system for it or get a utility to speed up your GPU fans. If you don’t have these issues lets continue.
9. At this point, your pretty much looking at the capabilities of your GPU. I found out during my investigation that my Nvidia control panel was contradicting the settings on the game options before launching. In my opinion, the game settings are the important ones as the game knows what its capabilities are… the control panel should be left at default and where applicable, set as “let the application decide” . if you start changing things everywhere you will never find out the cause. So lets focus on the game options with your GPU left at default settings. Run the game with the lowest settings and watch out for the following: how long it took to launch your game, smoothness of audio/video, basic functions in the game walking running jumping shooting. For me, the lower settings were worse for me then the high as with the lowest setting I would take two steps and then I would stop, not that the game froze I just stopped as if there was a wall in front of me and I had to go around it. It was choppy. I say this because it doesn’t really mean that the lowest setting is the best option to avoid issues with your GPU, if you have a high end GPU and you choose it to do something it wasn’t designed to do it will give you issues no matter how much memory it uses. Its like telling a professional Football player to go out and play Hockey, it just doesn’t work.
That’s how you troubleshoot once all other things are checked off. Try the medium setting and do the same and so on. Once you do that select the setting which you found out to be the best suitable for your card and click on the advance tab. Change one thing at a time and test it out. It’s a time consuming thing but it’s the only way to find out limits. Trust me I have been in Quality and testing for an I.T. company for 10 years.
*** At this point you should not have any issues with FO3. It was proven that FO3 works with Windows 7 64 and 32. If you are still having crashed after this, only THEN can you click on “send this to Microsoft” *** :sarc:
Eventually the issue I had was with Norton Anti Virus 2010. I had it enabled. That’s it, can you imagine the “D’OH” when I found this out. Norton 2010 works very good with Windows 7 and as a security feature gives Norton the go ahead to continually check processes to make sure they are within the “safeness” of what Norton considers safe. And it does this quite often. Norton 2010 has a neat feature where it asks you how long you want to disable it before it automatically turns on again. I disabled Norton for 15 minutes started my game and played. After 15 minutes FO3 crashed. Hmmmm… interesting, I disabled Norton for 1 hour played FO3 with “Ultra” settings and exactly after an hour on the DOT, FO3 crashes. At this point I left everything as it was, went out and got drunk with my friends. Since then I haven’t had any crashes at all.
Don’t give up… if it doesn’t work, test and test again. The solution is ALWAYS there, sometimes you are looking right at it.
Good Luck
