fixing other peoples computer issues, hardware/software

HAVOC

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On occasion I get asked to "fix" some ones computer. It could be anything, laptop won't turn on or a program froze, etc. Sometimes I get asked for help on a subject I know nothing about (Excel comes to mind). Or they'll say "how do I do this...". I say "sorry, I've never used that program before".

How does the IT person of today acquire the knowledge to help in so many aspects of computer repair, hardware/software/mobile devices? Buying each and every program is just too expensive, as is buying the latest tech gadget. I will hopefully be attending an IT school in the near future, for now I use google but there are still some things I don't know.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
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custom build
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64bit
CPU
Intel i7-5960X
Motherboard
EVGA X99 Classified
Memory
64GB Corsair Dominator 2400MHz
Graphics Card(s)
3 EVGA GTX980's
Sound Card
on board
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3 Dell E2715H 27"
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1920x1080 (5760x1080)
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Samsung 950 Pro 1TB M.2 SSD,
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Corsair AX1200i
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Corsair 750D
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Corsair H110i GT
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Corsair K70
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Corsair M45
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250 down/10 up
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Microsoft Security Essentials
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IE 11, Google Chrome
On occasion I get asked to "fix" some ones computer. It could be anything, laptop won't turn on or a program froze, etc. Sometimes I get asked for help on a subject I know nothing about (Excel comes to mind). Or they'll say "how do I do this...". I say "sorry, I've never used that program before".

How does the IT person of today acquire the knowledge to help in so many aspects of computer repair, hardware/software/mobile devices? Buying each and every program is just too expensive, as is buying the latest tech gadget. I will hopefully be attending an IT school in the near future, for now I use google but there are still some things I don't know.

Well, I started messing around with what we used to call 'microcomputers' back in the late 1970's. I learned from years and years of experience. I learned from each and every client. You learn fundamentals, you learn patterns, you grow some intuition. You learn trouble-shooting skills. At some point, you've more or less seen it all, and even if you've never used a particular program or piece of hardware, you just seem to know what the issues are going to be.

I don't do house-calls any more, but I used to do a lot of them. There are so many different kinds of computer out there! Sometimes I had to engage my clients in random tech chit-chat, stalling for time while I tried to find the power switch on their computer. :p
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Compaq Presario SR5518F (desktop)
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 @2GHz
Motherboard
MSI "Boston"
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT
Sound Card
Integrated - Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer
Hard Drives
Hitachi HDP725025GLA380 ATA Device
Optiarc DVD RW AD-7201S5 ATA Device
Internet Speed
5 Mbps
This is true - once you are known as a "Geek" people expect you to know everything. But I just tell them when there is an area that I am not familiar with - and there are many of these areas. Excel is a good example. I don't have the faintest clue. But Power Point is one of my specialties. I guess you can only help if you know the answer.
 

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
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from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
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2x HP w2207
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5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
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with trackball - no mices
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Trackball mice
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DSL 6000
A luck, when ones come to you for help and it is within the area of your hobby or passion. A chalenge if it is not, but willing to learn. I'm working in a hospital that use hundreds of PC or mobile. Lucky that I was able to make friend with the whole staffs of IT department, learning much from them (though Im only a nurse) but I can be a little help to friends around. Now my passion move to android stuffs, and lso able to help some.

Find a way to learn things by making friend with people who fond of the subject can be one of the key beside attending school.

And what is good by helping friends? I often get free breakfast and lunch. And there are more people available when I need help. ;)
 

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    MSI
    OS
    Windows 11 Prerelease
    CPU
    CORE i5 10400
    Motherboard
    MSI H510M Pro
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    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX 750Ti
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Integrated
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    Samsung Curved 24"; Samsung TV 50"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Vi-Gen NVMe 256GB
    WD 3 TB
    Seagate 2 TB
    Seagate 4TB
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    Power Striker
    Case
    VBR
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    Conventional
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    Logitech Wireless
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    Logitech Wireless
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    2MBPs
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    Apple MacBook
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    BigSur
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    Core i5
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    8 GB
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    13 "
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
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    SSD 256 GB
On occasion I get asked to "fix" some ones computer. It could be anything, laptop won't turn on or a program froze, etc. Sometimes I get asked for help on a subject I know nothing about (Excel comes to mind). Or they'll say "how do I do this...". I say "sorry, I've never used that program before".

How does the IT person of today acquire the knowledge to help in so many aspects of computer repair, hardware/software/mobile devices? Buying each and every program is just too expensive, as is buying the latest tech gadget. I will hopefully be attending an IT school in the near future, for now I use google but there are still some things I don't know.

Are you getting paid to 'fix' these devices and computers?

It's admirable to desire to be helpful, but the acquisition of knowledge has a cost. Setting boundaries is important. Regardless of your experience, if you are actually providing people with a service, regardless of how 'amateurish' you feel it may be, you deserve to get paid.

Please don't misunderstand, I don't care if you get ALL your solutions off of Google...the fact that you are willing to try makes your time worthy of compensation.

Chris
 

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Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo
OS
Windows 7 64 bit
Memory
6 gb
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD 3000
Hard Drives
128gb SSD
320gb
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Firefox
I understand the compensation argument. But you don't take money from good friends who invite you to dinner next Saturday.
 

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
I understand the compensation argument. But you don't take money from good friends who invite you to dinner next Saturday.

It depends on the level of service you are providing.

I understand the 'I'll use the knowledge I've gained in the future' argument.

Ultimately, you'll have to decide for yourself what is fair.

For what it's worth, I never charge family members unless they insist on paying me. My good friends always insist on paying. A good dinner is often good enough!

Chris
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo
OS
Windows 7 64 bit
Memory
6 gb
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD 3000
Hard Drives
128gb SSD
320gb
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Firefox
Well, HAVOC , lol what I say when I'm in that situation is ...... I'm not totally familiar with that program,model,etc. but I know where to go to find out and then send them here (or our Sister forums) or come myself. :o
 

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Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
MSI GE72VR Apache Pro-416
OS
Windows 10x64 Build 1709
CPU
Intel i7 7700HQ Kaby Lake
Motherboard
Micro-Star Intl. MS-179B (U3C1)
Memory
16 GB DDR4 @2400
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 120Hz
Hard Drives
256 GB Nvme M.2 SSD

1TB HDD@7200
Cooling
Cooler Blast 4
Keyboard
Steel Series
Antivirus
Bit Defender Free
Browser
Edge
I come from a country where money is less important to people than it seems to be in the US. I take a good bottle of wine any day over a $20 bill.
 

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
I can't tell you the number of computers I've fixed in exchange for a 6-pack of Diet Coke! I usually don't charge people but expect them to only pay for any required parts.

I wouldn't walk across the street for a bottle of wine.
 

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PC/Desktop
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Home Built desktop, Dell G15 5511 Gaming laptop,MS Surface Pro 7 tablet
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W10 Pro desktop, W11 laptop, W11 Pro tablet (all 64-bit)
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3.7Ghz 8700K i7, i7-11800H, i7-1065G7
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ASUS TUF Z370-Pro Gaming in desktop
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16G desktop, 16G laptop, 4G tablet
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AMD Radeon RX580, RTX 3060, Intel Iris Plus
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High Definition Audio (Built-in to mobo)
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Samsung U32J59 32" (2x), 15.6", 12"
Screen Resolution
3840x2160, 3840x2160, 1920x1080, 2160x1440
Hard Drives
500G SSD for OS; 2T, 10T & 15T HDDs for Data on Desktop, 1TB SSD laptop, 128G SSD tablet.
PSU
Corsair CX 750M
Case
Antec 100
Cooling
CM 212+
Keyboard
IBM Model M - used continuously since 1986
Mouse
Microsoft Pro IntelliMouse
Internet Speed
400M down 8M up
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
FireFox
Other Info
Built my first computer (8Mhz 8088cpu, 640K RAM, 20MB HDD, 2 360K floppy drives) in 1985 and have been building them for myself, relatives and friends ever since.
I wouldn't walk across the street for a bottle of wine.
Understand. That shows the differences in culture. That amazes me though a little bit because you seem to live in wine country. They have some good Cabernet Sauvignon in your area. The best I found at the monastery in Los Gatos.
 

My Computer

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
For friends and family i help that call me i get connected to them via TeamViewer.
Then i tell them to show me the problem they are having, so i can see it for myself.
I often can't understand the problem they tell me about on the phone until i see it.

If I can't answer or fixit, i tell them i'll look for more help, and call them back.

I look for fixes in SF, EF, TF, google, etc., and ask for help here if i can't find an answer.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
I usually do repairs for friends/family and I get a couple bucks or dinner. I sometimes get a phone call from them saying that they need help but I don't feel like leaving the house. In that regards I think a teamviewer like program would be nice to have. The problem is, some of the people that call will have trouble with that. Maybe next time I'm over their house, I can install such a program on the computer, and use it when the need arises?
 
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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom build
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64bit
CPU
Intel i7-5960X
Motherboard
EVGA X99 Classified
Memory
64GB Corsair Dominator 2400MHz
Graphics Card(s)
3 EVGA GTX980's
Sound Card
on board
Monitor(s) Displays
3 Dell E2715H 27"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 (5760x1080)
Hard Drives
Samsung 950 Pro 1TB M.2 SSD,
Western Digital Black 2TB HDD's x5
Western Digital Black 1TB HDD's x3
PSU
Corsair AX1200i
Case
Corsair 750D
Cooling
Corsair H110i GT
Keyboard
Corsair K70
Mouse
Corsair M45
Internet Speed
250 down/10 up
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
IE 11, Google Chrome
I understand the compensation argument. But you don't take money from good friends who invite you to dinner next Saturday.

When I do computer help for my friends, they insist on paying me. Unless what I did was utterly trivial, I let them. My family, OTOH, doesn't need much computer help - many of my nieces and nephews are IT professionals/coders.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Compaq Presario SR5518F (desktop)
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 @2GHz
Motherboard
MSI "Boston"
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT
Sound Card
Integrated - Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer
Hard Drives
Hitachi HDP725025GLA380 ATA Device
Optiarc DVD RW AD-7201S5 ATA Device
Internet Speed
5 Mbps
I wouldn't walk across the street for a bottle of wine.
Understand. That shows the differences in culture. That amazes me though a little bit because you seem to live in wine country. They have some good Cabernet Sauvignon in your area. The best I found at the monastery in Los Gatos.
Not so much a difference in culture, the majority of adults in the US probably agree with you. However, wine and other "adult" beverages simply taste terrible to me so I don't drink them.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built desktop, Dell G15 5511 Gaming laptop,MS Surface Pro 7 tablet
OS
W10 Pro desktop, W11 laptop, W11 Pro tablet (all 64-bit)
CPU
3.7Ghz 8700K i7, i7-11800H, i7-1065G7
Motherboard
ASUS TUF Z370-Pro Gaming in desktop
Memory
16G desktop, 16G laptop, 4G tablet
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon RX580, RTX 3060, Intel Iris Plus
Sound Card
High Definition Audio (Built-in to mobo)
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung U32J59 32" (2x), 15.6", 12"
Screen Resolution
3840x2160, 3840x2160, 1920x1080, 2160x1440
Hard Drives
500G SSD for OS; 2T, 10T & 15T HDDs for Data on Desktop, 1TB SSD laptop, 128G SSD tablet.
PSU
Corsair CX 750M
Case
Antec 100
Cooling
CM 212+
Keyboard
IBM Model M - used continuously since 1986
Mouse
Microsoft Pro IntelliMouse
Internet Speed
400M down 8M up
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
FireFox
Other Info
Built my first computer (8Mhz 8088cpu, 640K RAM, 20MB HDD, 2 360K floppy drives) in 1985 and have been building them for myself, relatives and friends ever since.
I sometimes get a phone call from them saying that they need help but I don't feel like leaving the house. In that regards I think a teamviewer like program would be nice to have. The problem is, some of the people that call will have trouble with that. Maybe next time I'm over their house, I can install such a program on the computer, and use it when the need arises?

Understood.
Teamviewer has a Quick Support version that does not get installed.
Just have them download the Quick Support exe and run it.
Could help in a pinch until you can get over and install the full version.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
It is simple for me.
I don't let anybody know that I know or can find out how to fix a computer problem.

I found out when I was working as a auto mechanic, when I stopped repairing friends cars for free I had a lot less friends.

I had young ladies offer (sxx) for auto repairs.
My answer was simple.
I have (sxx) for enjoyment and repair cars for money and never get the two confused.

Kendall Jackson make a real nice Zinfandel and it's not pricey.
I haven't found a Ohio wine I think much of.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Wine in Ohio - that's new to me - but why not. I have had wine from Washington state, from the Finger Lakes in NY state and wine from Virginia. None of those killed me but would also not make the list in Gault Millau or Michelin. Some of the Finger Lake people came originally from Germany.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
the program makers usually have online videos and there is always youtube. :)

But you`re doing the best thing by saying, "I don`t know about that software"

Especially when working at a job site, helping friends on the other hand, is totally up to you.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Skylake Special #666
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Memory
GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC G2460PG
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
PSU
EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
Case
Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp, Corsair H2100 Wireless 7.1 Headset
Wine in Ohio - that's new to me - but why not. I have had wine from Washington state, from the Finger Lakes in NY state and wine from Virginia. None of those killed me but would also not make the list in Gault Millau or Michelin. Some of the Finger Lake people came originally from Germany.

The Finger Lake region/Lake placid area some of the prettiest country in the United States. Good people there too
 

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Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
MSI GE72VR Apache Pro-416
OS
Windows 10x64 Build 1709
CPU
Intel i7 7700HQ Kaby Lake
Motherboard
Micro-Star Intl. MS-179B (U3C1)
Memory
16 GB DDR4 @2400
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 120Hz
Hard Drives
256 GB Nvme M.2 SSD

1TB HDD@7200
Cooling
Cooler Blast 4
Keyboard
Steel Series
Antivirus
Bit Defender Free
Browser
Edge
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