Getting the kinks out of a new build

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Well, I think I finally have the new build dialed in, but I'm left with a weird little issue that I've seen before with my old system.

I replaced a Foxconn A7DA-S and Phenom II 920 about a month ago. The new build is in my system specs, but I'll recap a little:

- ASUS M4A79XTD EVO Motherboard
- Phenom II 955BE @ stock speed
- 4 GB Mushkin DDR3 (2 x 2 GB)

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I've had some issues since putting this together. The worst was the complete failure of both of my new OCZ RAM sticks after two weeks, but other than that, things seem to be ironed out now, except for one thing.

Considering the CPU cooler that I'm using, I think I should have a little better temp at idle than you see in the screen shot. Ambient is about 22 - 24C, and my machine at work has a 965 in it, but it's otherwise the same, runs about 32C for the same ambient on a stock Phenom cooler at 1.27V core voltage.

I've lowered the CPU voltage, bit by bit, but here's where the problem happens. At my current core voltage (1.32V), Windows doesn't always load everything into the system tray. It still loads the programs, because I can use them, but the icons and notifications don't always show. It's hit or miss, and a reboot will load some of the other ones, or all of them, or none. Raising the voltage helps sometimes, sometimes not. I ran Prime95 overnight the night before last, and memtest86+ the night before that. 9 hours of each and no failures at all, so I'm pretty confident that my voltage isn't the problem.

Could this be a Windows issue that I'm mistaking for a hardware problem? I've had no crashes or freeze ups since replacing the memory, so it isn't that. I'm planning on picking up an SSD in a couple of weeks, so I'm waiting to do a fresh install. Maybe that will help, I don't know.

Any ideas on what causes this? Or am I just worrying for nothing?

Thanks.
 

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Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual bootAMD FX 8350 Vishera @ 420016 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 @ 1866 (9-1...XFX Radeon R9 280 Double D Black Edition
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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Mellon Labs (custom build)
OS
Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
CPU
AMD FX 8350 Vishera @ 4200
Motherboard
ASUS M5A97 R2.0
Memory
16 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 @ 1866 (9-10-10-10-31)
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon R9 280 Double D Black Edition
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio on MB. Sounds great.
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 24", Acer 22"
Screen Resolution
3840 x 1080
Hard Drives
1 x Mushkin Chronos 120 GB SSD (Win 10)
1 x Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD (Win 7)
1 x WD 1TB SATA Blue
1 x WD 1TB SATA Green
PSU
Corsair TX-750
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912+
Cooling
Coolermaster Seidon 240M Liquid AIO. 6 case fans
Keyboard
Logitech G710+
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
Much better since I got fiber, but still way overpriced.
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MSE, Malware Bytes for scanning
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Firefox
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Corsair VOID USB headphones.

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Considering the CPU cooler that I'm using, I think I should have a little better temp at idle than you see in the screen shot. Ambient is about 22 - 24C, and my machine at work has a 965 in it, but it's otherwise the same, runs about 32C for the same ambient on a stock Phenom cooler at 1.27V core voltage.
Looking at your screenshots, it seems you run around 34C. I'm not sure I would do much to try to drop it by 2C since you are well within specs.
 

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Self-Built in July 2009
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
Memory
8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
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EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
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Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
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23" Acer x233H
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1920x1080
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Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
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Corsair 620HX modular
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Antec P182
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stock
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ABS M1 Mechanical
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Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
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Thanks for the input. You're right about chasing a lower temp. I just find it weird since the cooler is practically bigger than my head, that the idle temp is so high.

After I posted that, I dropped the Vcore to 1.28 as an experiment, and ran Prime95 for two and a half hours. It was rock solid stable, and when I checked the system tray, everything that was supposed to be there was there. And ironically, my idle temp is 32C.

I'm really confused now. I'm thinking that this has to be Windows messing up, but I'm going to leave everything as is until I get my SSD and see what happens.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual bootAMD FX 8350 Vishera @ 420016 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 @ 1866 (9-1...XFX Radeon R9 280 Double D Black Edition
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Mellon Labs (custom build)
OS
Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
CPU
AMD FX 8350 Vishera @ 4200
Motherboard
ASUS M5A97 R2.0
Memory
16 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 @ 1866 (9-10-10-10-31)
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon R9 280 Double D Black Edition
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio on MB. Sounds great.
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 24", Acer 22"
Screen Resolution
3840 x 1080
Hard Drives
1 x Mushkin Chronos 120 GB SSD (Win 10)
1 x Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD (Win 7)
1 x WD 1TB SATA Blue
1 x WD 1TB SATA Green
PSU
Corsair TX-750
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912+
Cooling
Coolermaster Seidon 240M Liquid AIO. 6 case fans
Keyboard
Logitech G710+
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
Much better since I got fiber, but still way overpriced.
Antivirus
MSE, Malware Bytes for scanning
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Corsair VOID USB headphones.

A Mellon Labs X-1 - LCD Smartie driven system status display.

Brought to you by the letter E
UPDATE:

I have corrected the problem, and in doing do, I have discovered that I am so stupid I have to concentrate to breathe.

I have put the Vcore back to 1.32V, and the system is booting reliably, and everything is fine now.

My heat "problem" was made worse by the stupid guy who built my PC, that's me! Basically, what I had done was mount the intake fans so that they were blowing out of the case, rather than in. All of my fans were blowing air out of the case, so no airflow. With this corrected, my CPU temp is now a balmy 29C as I type this.

I have put in my paperwork to be certified the Village Idiot.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual bootAMD FX 8350 Vishera @ 420016 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 @ 1866 (9-1...XFX Radeon R9 280 Double D Black Edition
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Mellon Labs (custom build)
OS
Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
CPU
AMD FX 8350 Vishera @ 4200
Motherboard
ASUS M5A97 R2.0
Memory
16 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 @ 1866 (9-10-10-10-31)
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon R9 280 Double D Black Edition
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio on MB. Sounds great.
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 24", Acer 22"
Screen Resolution
3840 x 1080
Hard Drives
1 x Mushkin Chronos 120 GB SSD (Win 10)
1 x Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD (Win 7)
1 x WD 1TB SATA Blue
1 x WD 1TB SATA Green
PSU
Corsair TX-750
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912+
Cooling
Coolermaster Seidon 240M Liquid AIO. 6 case fans
Keyboard
Logitech G710+
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
Much better since I got fiber, but still way overpriced.
Antivirus
MSE, Malware Bytes for scanning
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Corsair VOID USB headphones.

A Mellon Labs X-1 - LCD Smartie driven system status display.

Brought to you by the letter E
Ha...well we have all made mistakes in the past. I'm most impressed with those who admit them and share them with the rest of us.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x64Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timingsEVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built in July 2009
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
Memory
8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Sound Card
Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" Acer x233H
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
PSU
Corsair 620HX modular
Case
Antec P182
Cooling
stock
Keyboard
ABS M1 Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
15/2 cable modem
Other Info
Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
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