Has The Antivirus Industry Gone Mad?!


Interesting information thank you for posting good information provided.

After reading this post brings up a few questions concerning Firewall protection.
Yes ir certainly does Larry I don't think they are as good as they are made out to be. I have run Kaspersky ISS for going on five years now and although the ratings are always at the top or very near the on call scans by MBAM and SAS always pick up the odd bits and pieces - not a lot but all the same some.
 

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This is why I love my Chromebook because it runs Chrome OS and runs as a sandbox it doesn't even need an AV really. The Chromebook boot times and general performance as a laptop I find is much better than others I have tried and I don't have to worry about adware, malware or viruses and picking an AV, scanning and all the other pains that come with AV software.

Phill3990:cool:

Or you know, linux is free and works too :p
 

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Panda Cloud Antivirus
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Your awesome for reading this.
...Or you know, linux is free and works too...

...except with some of my larger (and more expensive) programs and/or hardware drivers, such as Adobe Acrobat (not reader), Finale (music notation software), and my ADF scanner and color laser printer.

As others have mentioned, PUPs aren't that big of a deal as long as one pays attention when downloading and installing freeware (and some commercial software as well).
 

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Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
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Intel i7-3930K
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ASUS P9X79 WS
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Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
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MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
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Asus Xonar Essence STX
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3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
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1920 x 1080, ?
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Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
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Corsair HX750w
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AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
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IE11
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LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
...Or you know, linux is free and works too...

...except with some of my larger (and more expensive) programs and/or hardware drivers, such as Adobe Acrobat (not reader), Finale (music notation software), and my ADF scanner and color laser printer.

As others have mentioned, PUPs aren't that big of a deal as long as one pays attention when downloading and installing freeware (and some commercial software as well).

Did you try wine? Also, you could always have windows in a vm on linux. Only launch the vm when you need windows specific things.
 

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Windows 10 Pro
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AMD Ryzen 5 2400G Processor with Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics
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G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM D
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2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (EVGA)
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Motherboard Built in
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Acer R240HY bidx 23.8-Inch IPS HDMI DVI VGA (1920 x 1080) Wi
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
1TB Sandisk SSD PLUS (Main drive)
500 GB Seagate 7200 RPM (Games)
500 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM (Virtual Machines)
PSU
CORSAIR TX Series TX650M 650W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply
Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SPEC-02 Mid-Tower Gaming Case, Red LED Fan
Cooling
220mm, two 120mm, and four 60mm fans
Keyboard
Wired Dell keyboard
Mouse
Wireless Logitech mouse
Internet Speed
250mb down, 30mb up
Antivirus
Panda Cloud Antivirus
Browser
Chrome-ish x64
Other Info
Your awesome for reading this.
This is why I love my Chromebook because it runs Chrome OS and runs as a sandbox it doesn't even need an AV really. The Chromebook boot times and general performance as a laptop I find is much better than others I have tried and I don't have to worry about adware, malware or viruses and picking an AV, scanning and all the other pains that come with AV software.

Phill3990:cool:

Or you know, linux is free and works too :p
Agree with that Andrew have got mine set up on a stick and have just got to get used to it but knowing it is safer is peace of mind eh?:)
 

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Computer type
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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
...Or you know, linux is free and works too...

...except with some of my larger (and more expensive) programs and/or hardware drivers, such as Adobe Acrobat (not reader), Finale (music notation software), and my ADF scanner and color laser printer.

As others have mentioned, PUPs aren't that big of a deal as long as one pays attention when downloading and installing freeware (and some commercial software as well).

Did you try wine?

Yes but I don like the taste and I don't drink anyway. ;) All seriousness aside, I've never bothered with it since Win 7 works just fine and dandy for me (why fix something if it "ain't broke"?) so I never tried Linux. I have read on the forums for Finale products that Wine is hit and miss at best and a total flop at worst for Finale and the "child" programs.
 

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Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
...Or you know, linux is free and works too...

...except with some of my larger (and more expensive) programs and/or hardware drivers, such as Adobe Acrobat (not reader), Finale (music notation software), and my ADF scanner and color laser printer.

As others have mentioned, PUPs aren't that big of a deal as long as one pays attention when downloading and installing freeware (and some commercial software as well).

Did you try wine? Also, you could always have windows in a vm on linux. Only launch the vm when you need windows specific things.
Yep I meant to say as we were obviously typing at he same time Wolfgang has a very good sub tutorial in the imaging with Macrium tutorial at around post #1150 I think it is on setting that VM up.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/73828-imaging-free-macrium-116.html
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK

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Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1,...Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93GHzNot much with my ADHDATI Radeon HD 4350
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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Hell oh Well
OS
Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93GHz
Memory
Not much with my ADHD
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4350
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24" HDTV/Monitor
Screen Resolution
Blurry after a Scotch or 2
Hard Drives
1 HDD 250 GB, 1 HDD 1 TB, 3 - 1 TB Externals
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Don't get on my case...man :D
Cooling
I have an Air Conditioner & Diet Pepsi
Keyboard
Saitek Cyborg
Mouse
10 yr old MS optical mouse that still works
Internet Speed
Never fast enough
Antivirus
Various
Browser
Various
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