Solved Haswell RAM issue

[Britton30]

Nope no lapping the CPU. Here's an extraordinary CPUz shot, check the frequency and voltage. I don't think any monitors are accurate on Haswell. Actual snip too.

 

[kbrady1979]

Have you also got CPU-Z 1.65? If you do, what does it say?

 

[Britton30]

Very good thought Kelly. Here's the 1.65 version, it's also not constantly showing differing volts and frequencies like the 1.63.

 

[kbrady1979]

That's more like it

 

[Britton30]

There is a new memtest out too. See the Sticky Threads link here: http://www.sevenforums.com/vip/299377-more-help-requested-6-a.html#post2489288

 

[kbrady1979]

Here is my Ivy Bridge rig, running the new Memtest86.

 

[Britton30]

Looks as if it got all the info correct for Ivy. I think it runs faster too, it took less than 45 minutes for 2 passes with 8GB installed.

 

[Britton30]

Prime 95 doesn't yet know about Haswell.

 

[Solarstarshines]

Prime 95 doesn't yet know about Haswell.

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I was reading about the Benchmarks have no love with Haswell

I'm just turned off by it now even if it does perform slightly faster then the 3rd Generation

as you just stated anyway you feel Ivy is faster and still with Ivy heat issues as well

I thank you for showing us how your Haswell build is going with your conclusions I see doesn't look to promising

I wonder how long it's going to take to fix the wrinkles in the Chip itself De-lidding sounds to much work and for 300+ Intel should be using much finer resources

 

[kbrady1979]

I know every platform has it's little quirks with benchmarking programs here and there, but almost every common benchmark has problems with Haswell. Looks like it's time for vendors to update their software.

 

[Solarstarshines]

I know every platform has it's little quirks with benchmarking programs here and there, but almost every common benchmark has problems with Haswell. Looks like it's time for vendors to update their software.

You might be on to something
This would make them rewrite and code it to all the new architecture thus would probably improve numbers on both platforms

Honestly AMD gets the shaft when it comes to coded programs probably wouldn't be much different

 

[kbrady1979]

Usually they push out a version update that accounts for CPU/Platform identification and the really good programs will have any physical changes incorporated in as well. AIDA64 is one of the few stress testing programs that understands how Ivy Bridge works and can stress it without risk of bricking everything.....JJ from Asus calls it "validated". I'm guessing for Haswell, besides the CPU/Platform identification, they would have to factor in the extra C States and anything new that IB doesn't have.

 

[Britton30]

Further on this, the new memtest 5.0 I don't think is doing a proper RAM test even though it got most of the readings right. I ran memtest86+ 5.0 od Haswell and it took all of 47 seconds to complete 5 tests! Sound a little suspicious. Haswell did 9 passes in nearly the same time Sandy did 3 passes. Note that the memtest 5.0 has some quirks even with Sandy.

 

[Faladu]

Didn't read whole thread.

I surmise that a Haswell is not speedier because they did a lesser quality Northbridge on die for whatever reason then the previous generation.

 

[kbrady1979]

Didn't read whole thread.

I surmise that a Haswell is not speedier because they did a lesser quality Northbridge on die for whatever reason then the previous generation.

I think it is just not showing up in the benchmarks we have access to. I doubt it is any slower.

 

[Faladu]

Hey k, I am just responding to fact Haswell came out and didn't have the seemingly customary jacking of the price pattern, I figured there was a reason.

I'm unsure which Intel to recommend right now if someone asked me, I'd have a ton of questions and data to absorb/filter before answering.

 

[kbrady1979]

I'm still recommending Ivy Bridge for most builds. It's still a hell of a platform to build off of. If they get Haswell straightened out later on in the manufacturing process, it might be a different ballgame.

 

[Britton30]

Didn't read whole thread.

I surmise that a Haswell is not speedier because they did a lesser quality Northbridge on die for whatever reason then the previous generation.

A lesser who, where? Intel has no north and south bridge, just one chip.

I'm still recommending Ivy Bridge for most builds. It's still a hell of a platform to build off of. If they get Haswell straightened out later on in the manufacturing process, it might be a different ballgame.

Not a bad idea Kelly, some Ivy CPUs are getting cheaper but a lot of good higher end boards are getting harder to find.

I think the biggest whammy Haswell has is the on chip voltage regulator, may be why all out normal tools are giving silly readings.