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I have a new ssd to put my W7 on. The ssd is 240gb and the hdd is 250gb. I was hoping to clone Windows and everything else on the hdd (less than 100gb) using one of the free disk management programs. I started one and the estimated time got longer and longer until I aborted the clone. My power management is set to shut down after 5 hours at the moment so I thought it would be a waste of time continuing. How long does it normally take with a low end system?
 

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w7 ult 64 and w7 hp 64 X 2 mint 64 8.1 64 10wtp 64
Using Acronis True Image 2014, it takes me less than 30 minutes with my system.
 

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Windows 10 Pro x64, Windows 8.1 Pro x64, Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1,
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INTEL i9-7920X LGA 2066
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Gigabyte X299-WU8 F3
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I have a new ssd to put my W7 on. The ssd is 240gb and the hdd is 250gb. I was hoping to clone Windows and everything else on the hdd (less than 100gb) using one of the free disk management programs. I started one and the estimated time got longer and longer until I aborted the clone. My power management is set to shut down after 5 hours at the moment so I thought it would be a waste of time continuing. How long does it normally take with a low end system?

You could always transfer by image rather than by clone.

Might take 15 minutes to make the image and a half hour to restore it to the SSD.

Guessing maybe twice that long if you have a low end system.

What program did you use?
 

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Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
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Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
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AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
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8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
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none; graphics are integrated on CPU
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Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
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1. Use free Macrium- that has never failed yet

2. Make an image of all the partitions - cloning is iffy and does not work half of the time

3. You have to image to another internal or external disk (not the SSD). Depending on the speed of the disks that can take a full hour. But the good news is that you can continue working on the PC whilst Macrium writes the image.

4. The restore will equally take abot 1 hour. For that you need to boot with the Macrium WinPE CD. Rather than producing it yourself (which may take 2 hours) download the .iso from my OneDrive and burn it to CD. That takes only a few minutes and is the latest version.

5. Then boot the PC with the CD you produced from the .iso and follow the instructions in this tutorial.

6. Change the BIOS boot order to boot from the SSD and you are all set. Enjoy your new SSD.
 

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2x HP w2207
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1. Use free Macrium- that has never failed yet

2. Make an image of all the partitions - cloning is iffy and does not work half of the time...

"Curiouser and curiouser," said Jeannie. The only times I've had a clone fail was due to a messed up HDD format (easily fixed by reformatting the messed up HDD) and power delivery issues (a single USB port was unable to provide enough power to consistently run a 7200 rpm 2.5" HDD in an external enclosure (also easily fixed by using a USB cable with two connectors on one end that pulls power from two USB ports). Otherwise, I've had no trouble cloning with Macrium Reflect.
 

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Custom Build
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Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
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ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
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MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
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Asus Xonar Essence STX
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3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
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1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
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Corsair HX750w
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Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
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Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
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Logitech G510s
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Logitech M525 (two in use)
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=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
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AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
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IE11
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LF, you must be more skilled than me. I had my share of problems with clones - never had any problems with images though. When I want to clone, I use the Paragon Migration Tool. But I only recommend that to the OPs when things are desperate because it costs money.
 

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
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from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
LF, you must be more skilled than me. I had my share of problems with clones - never had any problems with images though. When I want to clone, I use the Paragon Migration Tool. But I only recommend that to the OPs when things are desperate because it costs money.

Me, more skilled than you? :roflmao: Dumb luck on my part would be more accurate. Heck, you've forgotten more about computers than I'll ever know! Ironically, you are the one I learned about Macrium Reflect from.

Even more ironic, I've had nothing but bad luck trying to use Paragon Migration Tool.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
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Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
I guess you win a few and you lose a few. And you are right - looking back to my 53 years with computers I really forgot a lot. But that 'old' stuff would not be useful any more these days. Who has word machines these days or even variable word machines or computers where the RAM is a drum.
 

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
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from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
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2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
53 years ago in computing they were using rocks to make holes in punch cards.

Wolfgang that is a very long time in computing. I can only imagine all the things you have dealt with in computing all those years.
By the way thank you for hanging in their and sharing your knowledge with us.
 

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Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
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ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
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Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
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EVGA GTX 1070 OC
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Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
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INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
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EVGA Platium 1200W
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Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
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XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
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Das 4 Professional
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100 mbits
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Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
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I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
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LG BluRay Burner/
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Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
That is very kind Jack. I like to be around the forums. It is fun and keeps my neurons active. Unfortunately it does not do much for my bones, LOL.
 

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2x HP w2207
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5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
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with trackball - no mices
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DSL 6000
I use XXCLONE (free). It doesn't care about drive size as long as there's enough room for the data. Makes a bootable copy in less than an hour for around 100GBs. When my system goes south I just swap SATA cables, update from last time I swapped them, and then send new copy to the old, replaced drive. It's pretty much painless. :D
 

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(3 comps)Win7-1 ea. Home Premium 32,Home Premium 64,Pro 64
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MSE
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IE 11
Never heard of it. I'd use Macrium as suggested. You can try to clone with it first and then if that becomes a problem, save a backup image instead to recover using the boot disk. It's good to have the disk for rescue anyway.
 
I am hoping to use a free program as it is a once only thing. Cloning seems to be a bit iffy as I have just tried Mini Tool Drive Copy, Drive Clone and Macrium Reflect and all have failed. I have turned off all power saving and cool and quiet. WEI is 6.2 7.2 4.6 6.3 5.9 , a slow graphics card should not affect things. SATA3 throughout. At the moment, I am running Easus Todo backup free 7.5, still running after 1 1/2 hours with no end in sight.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
OS
w7 ult 64 and w7 hp 64 X 2 mint 64 8.1 64 10wtp 64
Use imaging. That always works.
 

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
Did you shrink C so it would fit on the SSD ?

Did you try windows native imaging ?
 

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Skylake Special #666
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Windows 10 Pro x64
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Intel Core i7 6700K
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Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
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GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
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EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
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Realtek High Definition
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AOC G2460PG
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1920 x 1080 144Hz
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Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
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EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
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Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
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Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
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Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
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Logitech G700s
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Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
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Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
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Chrome
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Brian is right. For cloning, the partition sizes matter. They have to be equal or smaller to the SSD size. For imaging, the partition size does not matter - at least not with Macrium.
 

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
Yes. I shrunk C so that it was just smaller than the ssd. I have let Todo continue, it is 3hours 22 minutes so far and the estimated time to go has slowly increased to 2 hours 26 minutes so far. If this fails, I will try the imaging route.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
OS
w7 ult 64 and w7 hp 64 X 2 mint 64 8.1 64 10wtp 64
Something is strange. It should not take that long - unless you do that on a bicycle.
 

My Computer

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
Could my windows background, which is set to change every ten seconds be the problem?
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
OS
w7 ult 64 and w7 hp 64 X 2 mint 64 8.1 64 10wtp 64
Clean install is more straight forward and less frustrating :)
 

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Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
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1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
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Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
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