Help bsod

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I keep getting bsod this is on windows xp though, as I just switched back from windows 7 to windows xp, and this forum helped me in the past, and I cant find a windows xp forums, how do i show you the bsod?

 

[zigzag3143]

I keep getting bsod this is on windows xp though, as I just switched back from windows 7 to windows xp, and this forum helped me in the past, and I cant find a windows xp forums, how do i show you the bsod?

You are looking for the dump file (*.dmp). It might be located in c:\windows\minidump, zip it and upload to us for debugging

If its not in minidump you can search for *.dmp

Ken

 

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I think some might be different, so i posted all of them

 

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Hey I know this isn't on windows xp, but its partly caused from switching to windows 7, nad having to switch, back, I really dunno where else to put this? Can someone, please help me? I need this in case my gf with like severe emotional wakes up at night and needs to talk to me, without waking my house up by calling the phone, and my computer keeps BSODing

 

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Hey I know this isn't on windows xp, but its partly caused from switching to windows 7, nad having to switch, back, I really dunno where else to put this? Can someone, please help me? I need this in case my gf with like severe emotional wakes up at night and needs to talk to me, without waking my house up by calling the phone, and my computer keeps BSODing

Hope your gf doesn't wake up your wife when she calls during the night with "severe emotional"

Given the minidump contents, I'd say you're right - there's at least two or three separate problems, and maybe more. In no particular order:

- Crashes in the NTFS file system, presumably caused either by FS metadata corruption or bad filter drivers.

- Network stack badness.

- Memory corruption around the audio mixer subsystem. Most of the crashes are of this type.

Most if not all of those crashes will go away if you update this veritable museum of geriatric drivers

start end module name
b0d9d000 b0e05580 EagleNT Fri Sep 04 14:41:42 2009 (4AA09A86)
b1b64000 b1b67e60 AegisP Sat Nov 20 07:55:14 2004 (419E5DB2)
ba4fb000 ba57e980 smwdm Fri Dec 20 09:48:46 2002 (3E024CCE)
ba5b6000 ba5ce600 e1000325 Wed Nov 13 05:02:18 2002 (3DD1422A)
ba5cf000 ba6423c0 WPN311 Wed Jul 05 22:33:23 2006 (44ABB193)
ba67b000 ba7403c0 ialmnt5 Wed Jun 22 10:12:33 2005 (42B8ACF1)
bf9d5000 bf9e3000 ialmrnt5 Wed Jun 22 10:04:46 2005 (42B8AB1E)
bf9e3000 bfa02000 ialmdnt5 Wed Jun 22 10:04:39 2005 (42B8AB17)
bfa02000 bfa2da20 ialmdev5 Wed Jun 22 10:04:29 2005 (42B8AB0D)
bfa2e000 bfb0b000 ialmdd5 Wed Jun 22 10:11:47 2005 (42B8ACC3)
f7995000 f7996120 aeaudio Tue Apr 02 01:39:14 2002 (3CA87112)

I've highlighted in red the ones I reckon you ought to start with. Also, I have no idea what AegisP and EagleNT are meant to do, but if you can do without them while you're troubleshooting, remove them.

After that, upload more minidumps as they happen and somebody may be able to help you further.

 

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I didnt know what some of the drivers were, and I googled them, and found nothing, so I tried windows 7 again, and still getting bsods, and the debuggers not working, so I don't even know whats causing the problems.

My "new" windows 7 bsods
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Some things that might be helpful to anyone viewing this thread:
1.I did update the bios from the downloads under my service tag at support in dell.com when I went from xp to seven the first time, but since its an official bios update from the official site under my service tag, how could it be harmful? Its not like I got it from a torrent or something?

2.I fiddled around a couple times with safe mode with networking, and I havn't really gotten a bsod (in safe-mode with networking), but its hard to tell, because often times the bsods are from different things, and its not really one certain time, or anything it bsods, pretty much random, only thing I can pinpoint is it seems to be after a little bit of being in firefox, or ie8, doesn't matter which, still bsods, or while using video call in skype, and the second I open any game I own. (Low graphic 2-d games, that require a basic of directx 9, and barely evolved 3-d capabilities, VERY low standard games, so I don't think their too graphic intensive, even beside the fact I played the game I tired for about 4 years almost on this machine with no problems, but now when I open it I bsod almost immediately. And I tried shutting everything off in msconfig startup, no change.

3.Over time, but if I don't really touch anything, I can pretty much leave it on forever, even with skype running, but a couple minutes online, a second in a game like maplestory, like 3 minutes in video chat on skype, bsod.

4. One thing I notice in common is alot of bsods say at the top, memory management, or something like that.

 

[H2SO4]

I didnt know what some of the drivers were, and I googled them, and found nothing, so I tried windows 7 again, and still getting bsods, and the debuggers not working, so I don't even know whats causing the problems.

My "new" windows 7 bsods
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If this is a legit version of Win7, in terms of licensing, then you've almost certainly got a hardware problem. One of the dumps shows the "system protection" driver - spsys.sys - causing a crash while attempting to deal with one of its periodic interrupts used for licensing verification purposes. Assuming it's not being interfered with by software which would have reason to interfere, it is a very hardware-ish crash.

As a suggestion, make sure the system is adequately cooled and nothing is overclocked.

 

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@Ken/Zigzag3143-
1.I did update the bios from the downloads under my service tag at support in dell.com when I went from xp to seven the first time, but since its an official bios update from the official site under my service tag, how could it be harmful? Its not like I got it from a torrent or something?

2.I fiddled around a couple times with safe mode with networking, and I havn't really gotten a bsod, but its hard to tell, because often times the bsods are from different things, and its not really one certain time, or anything it bsods, pretty much random, only thing I can pinpoint is it seems to be after a little bit of being in firefox, or ie8, doesn't matter which, still bsods, or while using video call in skype, and the second I open any game I own. (Low graphic 2-d games, that require a basic of directx 9, and barely evolved 3-d capabilities, VERY low standard games, so I don't think their too graphic intensive, even beside the fact I played the game I tired for about 4 years almost on this machine with no problems, but now when I open it I bsod almost immediately. And I tried shutting everything off in msconfig startup, no change.

3.Over time, but if I don't really touch anything, I can pretty much leave it on forever, even with skype running, but a couple minutes online, a second in a game like maplestory, like 3 minutes in video chat on skype, bsod.

4. One thing I notice in common is alot of bsods say at the time, memory management, or something like that.

5. I don't quite understand what you mean by the last part, are you recommending I strip my case physicallly of everything except my motherboard? I don't even think it would run like that?

 

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Crap! I just got a win32 bsod....I got it after firefox crashed randomly and told me to restart so I did, And all the letter in the posts in my forum were bold and overlapping then I got a win32.sys or something like that bsod, and now when I try to upload the mini-dump of that bsod, it says its not a valid file on my computer What the hell is going on?

 

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I didnt know what some of the drivers were, and I googled them, and found nothing, so I tried windows 7 again, and still getting bsods, and the debuggers not working, so I don't even know whats causing the problems.

My "new" windows 7 bsods
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If this is a legit version of Win7, in terms of licensing, then you've almost certainly got a hardware problem. One of the dumps shows the "system protection" driver - spsys.sys - causing a crash while attempting to deal with one of its periodic interrupts used for licensing verification purposes. Assuming it's not being interfered with by software which would have reason to interfere, it is a very hardware-ish crash.

As a suggestion, make sure the system is adequately cooled and nothing is overclocked.

It is legit, I checked the hashes I got it from a site that said it was legal, and if you don't believe them you check the hashes from the official site, or something like that and I did and they matched, but that site offered some illegial program called a loader that gave you a free registration key, but I didn't download or use that program, and it is't and it never was on my system, I just restart my system every thirty days.
And no overclocking and I haear the fans working fine

 

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If this is a legit version of Win7, in terms of licensing, then you've almost certainly got a hardware problem. One of the dumps shows the "system protection" driver - spsys.sys - causing a crash while attempting to deal with one of its periodic interrupts used for licensing verification purposes. Assuming it's not being interfered with by software which would have reason to interfere, it is a very hardware-ish crash.

As a suggestion, make sure the system is adequately cooled and nothing is overclocked.

It is legit, I checked the hashes I got it from a site that said it was legal, and if you don't believe them you check the hashes from the official site, or something like that and I did and they matched, but that site offered some illegial program called a loader that gave you a free registration key, but I didn't download or use that program, and it is't and it never was on my system, I just restart my system every thirty days.
And no overclocking and I haear the fans working fine

I'm glad to hear that it's legit, but I would encourage you to get the actual image from Microsoft, as opposed to someplace else that has to go out of its way to tout its legitimacy.

Since you paid for a Windows license, Microsoft will presumably offer you a way to get the media or image directly from them or their affiliates. Otherwise, you run the risk of unknown nasties lurking underneath your OS, and in this case the licensing mechanism appears to be experiencing a spot of bother. If it's not caused by some sort of licensing trickery, then the nature of the crash would leave me surprised to find out that it wasn't a hardware problem.

 

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So, you recommend just getting another copy of the iso, and if its not hardware that should fix it? Because my xp won't work either=/ So, if I'm not sure that will fix it, and if its hardware, any particualr part of this sytem in particular is most likely the part thats screwy?=/

 

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If netbooks didn't have a max of 1g ram....I'd tottally buy one right now=/

 

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Ok, I tried using a debugger on the bsod it won't let me upload and apparently what I gather from it, is it blames win32.sys and firefox (for the latest bsod at least)

 

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Nvm just needed to zip the dump from before, here it is

 

[zigzag3143]

can you edit which dump files are current and which ones are under XP?

 

[H2SO4]

So, you recommend just getting another copy of the iso, and if its not hardware that should fix it?

To paraphrase the question, will a clean install of a "real" copy of Win7 run without constant BSODs on healthy hardware? Yes, absolutely.

Because my xp won't work either=/ So, if I'm not sure that will fix it...

You had some ancient drivers under that XP installation, and it's entirely possible that they were at least partially responsible for the crashes. Some of the hardest problems to troubleshoot are the "compound" ones caused by multiple superimposed symptoms from different root causes - say a mix of hardware and driver crashes. For your sake, I hope the hardware is fine, the old drivers under XP were responsible for the XP crashes, and a new install of a Win7 image obtained directly from MS will work well.

As a suggestion, once you reinstall Win7 using an MS-sourced image, DON'T install anything else at all for a while... no updates, no apps, no games... literally nothing that's not on the Win7 disc. Only if that works flawlessly should you then consider adding other software, and do it slowly so that if the BSODs should return you've got a good idea of the likely cause.

and if its hardware, any particualr part of this sytem in particular is most likely the part thats screwy?=/

Unfortunately, minidumps are a very poor way to discern just which hardware component may be responsible. They only provide a sparse summary of the software environment at the time of the crash, and with experience that can sometimes allow one to form a gut feeling as to whether the cause is likely to be hardware - but not necessarily which hardware component.

 

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@Zigzag:Sure, here:
XP BSODs
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Win 7 BSODs
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Just found some fun things for y'all in my administrative event logs-.-

Service 'WMPNetworkSvc' did not start correctly because CoCreateInstance(CLSID_UPnPDeviceFinder) encountered error '0x80004005'. Verify that the UPnPHost service is running and that the UPnPHost component of Windows is installed properly.

Audit events have been dropped by the transport. 0

Warning 10/29/2009 6:47:59 PM WLAN-AutoConfig 4001 None

The winlogon notification subscriber <GPClient> was unavailable to handle a notification event.

The Computer Browser service depends on the Server service which failed to start because of the following error:
The dependency service or group failed to start.