Solved Help debugging Slow-loading User Profile?

zapp22

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Guys I have a problem that is not leaving many clues other than the obvious and aggravating one: the main User profile on a HP desktop [Win7 Home Prem x64, 4GB, SSD, i5 quad-core] is intolerably slow, and somewhat erratic to load. This looked to the user like a boot-up problem but it actually seems to be the User profile. I see no Events in the Windows System log that identify an unusual problem, though one can see via the time stamp the gaps that are taking up 1.5 minutes, 4 minutes, 2 minutes - add it all up and I've seen personally delays of 6 minutes, although it is somewhat erratic. The way the system has been used it had only one User profile setup, no password, booted directly to the desktop.

One clue [which I can't make sense of] is that, when I added a second user/Admin profile for me to test on, both the troubled user profile and the new one load at something close to normal speed. So, Windows boots to the login screen, select user, then the troubled profile seems to load OK most of the time. The New Profile loads faster, but by seconds not minutes.

I have run a boot log and now wish it too had time sequence stamps but I have no way of knowing which, if any, of those items is a problem. I bet not, as it should only be tracking up to the point of the Login Screen display, right?

I know the workaround would be to setup a whole new user profile and ditch the old, but just out of curiosity to learn I would love to find the real culprit here. Should I be looking at all "Automatic"-loading Services and changing some to "Delayed" or "Manual"? There are very few [2] startup items/apps loading - the others I have stopped/disabled but it didn't solve the issue.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP DC7600, HP DC7600[2], HP DC7100, Samsung NC10
OS
Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3
CPU
Pentium 4 3.2GHz, Pentium 4 3.4GHz 64bit, Atom,
Motherboard
Dunno
Memory
4GB matched, 1GB, 2.5GB, 4.0 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Geforce 8400 GS and others
Sound Card
RealteK ALC260 and others
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Caviar 640gb SATA
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We Be Cool
Hi zapp22

I have seen sluggish User profile logon when the computer had two anti-virus programs running in the background. But you say second user profile does not have this delay.

Next, check how many desktop icons/files/folders you have saved on the troublesome User profile. Too many desktop icons can lead to sluggish start times.

Check the RAM also. You say there is 4GB installed. Is all 4GB still available to the computer?

Delays of up to 6 minutes sounds abnormal, especially if the computer has SSD. Might be worth trying a Clean Boot (Clean Startup) .
 

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PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 x64, Vista x64, 8.1 smartphone
CPU
Intel E8400 65W 64-bit
Motherboard
Gigabyte EP45-UD3LR
Memory
DDR2 2 x 2GB, 1GB x 2
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XFX Radeon HD5750
Sound Card
AMD High Definition Audio; Realtek High Definition Audio
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iiyama prolite X2377HDS
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1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
500GB 7200 rpm Seagate ST3500413AS 16MB, 500GB 5400 rpm Toshiba MQ02ABF050H 32MB, 200GB 7200 rpm Seagate ST3200820AS 8MB, 2TB 7200 rpm Western Digital WD20EZRX 64MB
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Enermax Liberty Modular
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Antec P193 Midi Tower
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Mionix ZIBAL 60
Mouse
Razer USB 2.0 Diamondback Mouse or Huion Graphics Tablet
Browser
Internet Explorer, Lunascape, Firefox, Opera, Avast Safezone
Many users load up their respective Desktops with downloaded ZIPs, EXEs, documents, spreadsheets, etc. until Desktop looks like downtown Manhattan.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Antec desktop; Acer Aspire laptops
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
Memory
desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Hard Drives
1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
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AT&T DSL
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FF, GChrome, msIE
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Windows 7 Firewall, Emsisoft AM/AV, MSE [scan-only], SpywareBlaster, Ruiware/BillP combine
Thank you both.. I hadn’t given a thought to the desktop clutter. It is.
I’m working another angle as well. I’m wondering if the delay has something to do with the way the ethernet works on this particular older HP model. It keeps alive even when the system is off, which is somewhat normal I guess but I’m not sure that the service they have which I think is from spectrum is dropping that IP address and on boot up there is a delay acquiring ip?
With a wifi USB adapter I’m not seeing the long delay with a half dozen test restarts & “cold” boot ups
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP DC7600, HP DC7600[2], HP DC7100, Samsung NC10
OS
Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3
CPU
Pentium 4 3.2GHz, Pentium 4 3.4GHz 64bit, Atom,
Motherboard
Dunno
Memory
4GB matched, 1GB, 2.5GB, 4.0 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Geforce 8400 GS and others
Sound Card
RealteK ALC260 and others
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Caviar 640gb SATA
Cooling
We Be Cool
Hi Zapp22,

check the settings in Device manager
Advanced - wake on - none
Power Management - uncheck both.


Roy
 

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PC/Desktop
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medionl/Aspire 6930G/acer x55a
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W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
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E5300 dual core
Motherboard
medion MS7366
Memory
3gb
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Nvidia Geforce 7100 Nforce 630i
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avixc
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n (isp resticted to 72)
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mse/pands
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palemoon
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Belkin Fd7050 n USB using Railink RT2870 drivers, more upto date
Concerning the Desktop, make a separate folder in your data partition; carefully copy and paste or move and paste all documents, downloads, ZIPs, EXEs, etc. into that folder. Leave only normal icons and directory folders on your Desktop.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Antec desktop; Acer Aspire laptops
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
Memory
desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Hard Drives
1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
Internet Speed
AT&T DSL
Browser
FF, GChrome, msIE
Other Info
Windows 7 Firewall, Emsisoft AM/AV, MSE [scan-only], SpywareBlaster, Ruiware/BillP combine
Do the basic first.
Open a CMD window as administrator and type:
chkdsk c:
If it find any problems, type:
chkdsk C: /f
It will say the disk is in use and if you want to schedule to next start = Yes
Restart

Then do a system file check:
Open a CMD window as administrator and type:
sfc /scannow
report
 

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    custom build
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    Windows 7 HP 64
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    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
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    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
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    IG - Intel 530
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    Samsung 226BW
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    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
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    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
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    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
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    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
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    TinyWall firewall
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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
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    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
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    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
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    Realtek
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    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
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    1920 x 1080
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    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
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    500 Mb/s
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    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
This turned out to be an odd one. I still think there may be some user profile corruption but the net is that after the user invokes her user profile [there are 2 profiles now as I setup a new one to test], sometimes, not all times, the network link [via ethernet cable to a ISP-provided cable modem] is slow to establish connection and the MS Security Essentials times out, apparently, but hangs the profile waiting for a connection. This occurs sporadically and the 'wait' varies somewhat, from 15 seconds or so to a minute. This never occurs with the new profile, which has no real setup on it and no use.


On WIFI I could never produce the long delay with either profile. With a good ethernet connection on my own equipment in testing, the user profiles both loaded about 4 seconds slower, with No WIFI, only Ethernet. On WIFI that delay was absent - either profile loaded in about 15 seconds.


Both chkdsk /r and sfc came up clean. No fixes, no files replaced



I marked 'solved'. I wish I could just remove MSE but the user believes....
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP DC7600, HP DC7600[2], HP DC7100, Samsung NC10
OS
Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3
CPU
Pentium 4 3.2GHz, Pentium 4 3.4GHz 64bit, Atom,
Motherboard
Dunno
Memory
4GB matched, 1GB, 2.5GB, 4.0 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Geforce 8400 GS and others
Sound Card
RealteK ALC260 and others
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Caviar 640gb SATA
Cooling
We Be Cool
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