Solved How long to start populating Prefetch folder?

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Because I got a new motherboard, I had to do a clean reinstall of Win 7 Pro 32-bit SP1 on June 9. Here it is June 21 and my Prefetch folder has zero program entries. In addition, possibly related, from the time I boot my PC until all the hard drive thrashing is finished is 2 min, 15 sec. Soluto said that a full 58-65 seconds of that was Avira Free loading and scanning at boot. It also takes a long time to launch any other programs, no matter what they are. Virus and malware scans are clean.

I've done a site search for this. I checked the Registry for that key value that tells Windows to prefetch everything, and I do not use CCleaner to clean out old prefetch entries. I have checked the Prefetch folder for content at random times and there's never any new entries there, even days after booting and running (I run Folding@Home 24/7).

What gives? Any ideas? I'd appreciate some insight.
 

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I have read many post on this form where people are having problems of all kinds using Avira.

I recommend removing Avira using their on line method and installing this for a test.

Microsoft Security Essentials - Microsoft Windows

If you are using Ready Boost I recommend not using it and install more ram. Your motherboard is fully capable of up to 32 gigs with 4 ram slots. All ram should be matching ram.
 

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Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
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Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
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ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
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Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
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LG BluRay Burner/
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Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
I've been considering moving back to Avast because of good performance reviews.
AFAIK, ReadyBoost is used for external drives. I have none.
How will installing more RAM help? I'm maxed out using Win7 32-bit.
I've even wondered if I should revert to IDE mode and MS drivers for my hard drives instead of AMD AHCI drivers.
I"m trying to figure out what I did wrong at some point, because I never had this trouble with my old ASRock board...
 

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Self-Built
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Win10 Pro 64-bit
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AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
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Gigabyte X570 UD
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32 GB Kingston DDR4-2666
Graphics Card(s)
MSI nVidia GT 710 (2GB)
Sound Card
Creative Audigy FX 5.1
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ViewSonic VG2439Smh 24"
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3xWD1TB; 1xSeagate 1TB... all spinning rust
PSU
EVGA 100-W1-0500-KR (500w)
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SilverStone PS10 (modified)
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Compaq Professional PS/2
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Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse 2.0
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Avast Free
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FF, Chrome
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Try setting BOTH EnablePrefetcher and EnableSuperfetch registry settings to 3. That's how MS sets them as default. I find my prefetch populates quite quickly. I often delete the program prefetch just for grins. The boot prefetch(which is in the readyboot subfolder) I don't bother to clear unless I made changes to the startup programs. You get one slow boot if you delete ReadyBoot contents. Then it's cached.
 

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HP Media Center
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Windows 7 32 bit
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AMD 5200+ dual core
Memory
2 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB
Monitor(s) Displays
CRT
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
500 GB Sata internal :

SIIG USB 3.0 docking stations w/WD Caviar Black 6 Gb/s drives
Keyboard
PS/2
Mouse
PS/2 Wheel Mouse
Other Info
SIIG USB 3.0 PCIexpress card.
I'll try that later.

I've also done a bit more online research and I've discovered that there is no layout.ini file in my prefetch folder... or anywhere else on my computer, for that matter.
 

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PC/Desktop
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Self-Built
OS
Win10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
Motherboard
Gigabyte X570 UD
Memory
32 GB Kingston DDR4-2666
Graphics Card(s)
MSI nVidia GT 710 (2GB)
Sound Card
Creative Audigy FX 5.1
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VG2439Smh 24"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
3xWD1TB; 1xSeagate 1TB... all spinning rust
PSU
EVGA 100-W1-0500-KR (500w)
Case
SilverStone PS10 (modified)
Cooling
CPU:AMD Wraith Prism. Case:3x Noctua 120mm
Keyboard
Compaq Professional PS/2
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Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse 2.0
Internet Speed
Fiber 1Gbit/sec down/up
Antivirus
Avast Free
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FF, Chrome
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2x LG GH24NSC0 DVD burners, Mackie CR3 monitor speakers
Well I didn't notice that in your system specs (32) bit. Sorry about that. That just means it would be a good time to go to Windows 64 bit.
 

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Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
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XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.

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ACER ASPIRE 5742G
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard
Acer Aspire 5742G
Memory
4,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
Sound Card
(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) Realtek High Defi
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
WDC WD5000BEVT-22ZAT0
I'll try that later.

I've also done a bit more online research and I've discovered that there is no layout.ini file in my prefetch folder... or anywhere else on my computer, for that matter.

Try this to rebuild the layout.ini prefetch file.

a) Click Start, click All Programs, click Accessories, right-click Command Prompt, and then click Run as administrator. If you are prompted for an administrator password or for a confirmation, type the password, or click Allow
b) Type the following command, and then press ENTER:
c) Rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks
Note: This will rebuild the layout.ini file, even if it has been deleted from %windir%\Prefetch.
Source: layout.ini is missing in my Prefetch folder. - Microsoft Community
 

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home built
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AMD Athlon II x4 620
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OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
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Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
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Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
I'll try that later.

I've also done a bit more online research and I've discovered that there is no layout.ini file in my prefetch folder... or anywhere else on my computer, for that matter.

Try this to rebuild the layout.ini prefetch file.

a) Click Start, click All Programs, click Accessories, right-click Command Prompt, and then click Run as administrator. If you are prompted for an administrator password or for a confirmation, type the password, or click Allow
b) Type the following command, and then press ENTER:
c) Rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks
Note: This will rebuild the layout.ini file, even if it has been deleted from %windir%\Prefetch.
Source: layout.ini is missing in my Prefetch folder. - Microsoft Community
I had run the ProcessIdleTasks thing automatically every four days via Task Scheduler and it never rebuilt layout.ini.

But I did manage to fix it.:D

Turns out that MilesAhead had the clue. I checked my Registry as he suggested, and all entries had a value of "3".

Then I opened up Services. Superfetch was marked as "Manual" and "Stopped". I started the Superfetch service, changed startup to Automatic. Ran a few programs and immediately found them in Prefetch. I rebooted, ran ProcessIdleTasks, and voila: a normal Prefetch folder with a fresh layout.ini!

I think I can mark this one solved, gents. Thanks for the help! :geek:
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built
OS
Win10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
Motherboard
Gigabyte X570 UD
Memory
32 GB Kingston DDR4-2666
Graphics Card(s)
MSI nVidia GT 710 (2GB)
Sound Card
Creative Audigy FX 5.1
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VG2439Smh 24"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
3xWD1TB; 1xSeagate 1TB... all spinning rust
PSU
EVGA 100-W1-0500-KR (500w)
Case
SilverStone PS10 (modified)
Cooling
CPU:AMD Wraith Prism. Case:3x Noctua 120mm
Keyboard
Compaq Professional PS/2
Mouse
Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse 2.0
Internet Speed
Fiber 1Gbit/sec down/up
Antivirus
Avast Free
Browser
FF, Chrome
Other Info
2x LG GH24NSC0 DVD burners, Mackie CR3 monitor speakers
System service SUPERFETCH startup=automatic. That's default setting
 

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Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ACER ASPIRE 5742G
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard
Acer Aspire 5742G
Memory
4,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
Sound Card
(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) Realtek High Defi
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
WDC WD5000BEVT-22ZAT0
System service SUPERFETCH startup=automatic. That's default setting
That's right. But for me, I found it set at Manual, and stopped.
Since I had no Prefetch entries since the day I installed Win7 on June 9, I can only assume that's how it's been... since June 9.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built
OS
Win10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
Motherboard
Gigabyte X570 UD
Memory
32 GB Kingston DDR4-2666
Graphics Card(s)
MSI nVidia GT 710 (2GB)
Sound Card
Creative Audigy FX 5.1
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VG2439Smh 24"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
3xWD1TB; 1xSeagate 1TB... all spinning rust
PSU
EVGA 100-W1-0500-KR (500w)
Case
SilverStone PS10 (modified)
Cooling
CPU:AMD Wraith Prism. Case:3x Noctua 120mm
Keyboard
Compaq Professional PS/2
Mouse
Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse 2.0
Internet Speed
Fiber 1Gbit/sec down/up
Antivirus
Avast Free
Browser
FF, Chrome
Other Info
2x LG GH24NSC0 DVD burners, Mackie CR3 monitor speakers
I think I was running mine set at Automatic Delayed Start.. once I cached the boot files. Boot files are fairly static. So you don't really need to gather stats right at boot time. It's just a bit smoother.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Media Center
OS
Windows 7 32 bit
CPU
AMD 5200+ dual core
Memory
2 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB
Monitor(s) Displays
CRT
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
500 GB Sata internal :

SIIG USB 3.0 docking stations w/WD Caviar Black 6 Gb/s drives
Keyboard
PS/2
Mouse
PS/2 Wheel Mouse
Other Info
SIIG USB 3.0 PCIexpress card.
Well, thanks to your clues leading to my turning on Superfetch, Soluto says that my boot time has gone down from
2 minutes 15 seconds to 1 minute 39 seconds. I'd say that shaving 36 seconds - 27% - off my boot time is well worth leaving it on! :D
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built
OS
Win10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
Motherboard
Gigabyte X570 UD
Memory
32 GB Kingston DDR4-2666
Graphics Card(s)
MSI nVidia GT 710 (2GB)
Sound Card
Creative Audigy FX 5.1
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VG2439Smh 24"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
3xWD1TB; 1xSeagate 1TB... all spinning rust
PSU
EVGA 100-W1-0500-KR (500w)
Case
SilverStone PS10 (modified)
Cooling
CPU:AMD Wraith Prism. Case:3x Noctua 120mm
Keyboard
Compaq Professional PS/2
Mouse
Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse 2.0
Internet Speed
Fiber 1Gbit/sec down/up
Antivirus
Avast Free
Browser
FF, Chrome
Other Info
2x LG GH24NSC0 DVD burners, Mackie CR3 monitor speakers
Yes, the boot fetch only requires one boot to get the info. Regular app fetch requres more stats. At least on my machines it seemed like less churning to put the service at Auto Delayed Start. Since the boot up info is obtained the first time after say, deleting ReadyBoot or making changes to the startup apps. The boot prefetch is worth doing even if you disable the regular app prefetch. Both registry settings to '2' caches only the bootup. I found that worked well in Vista. But for me on W7 the defaults actually seem to work best. Of course other factors may come in such as booting from SSD etc.. I have plain Jane Sata II for a system drive.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Media Center
OS
Windows 7 32 bit
CPU
AMD 5200+ dual core
Memory
2 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB
Monitor(s) Displays
CRT
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
500 GB Sata internal :

SIIG USB 3.0 docking stations w/WD Caviar Black 6 Gb/s drives
Keyboard
PS/2
Mouse
PS/2 Wheel Mouse
Other Info
SIIG USB 3.0 PCIexpress card.
Down to 1 minute, 9 seconds. :D:D:D and this is with a used, ancient (2007) WD SATA II spinner, no less.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built
OS
Win10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
Motherboard
Gigabyte X570 UD
Memory
32 GB Kingston DDR4-2666
Graphics Card(s)
MSI nVidia GT 710 (2GB)
Sound Card
Creative Audigy FX 5.1
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VG2439Smh 24"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
3xWD1TB; 1xSeagate 1TB... all spinning rust
PSU
EVGA 100-W1-0500-KR (500w)
Case
SilverStone PS10 (modified)
Cooling
CPU:AMD Wraith Prism. Case:3x Noctua 120mm
Keyboard
Compaq Professional PS/2
Mouse
Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse 2.0
Internet Speed
Fiber 1Gbit/sec down/up
Antivirus
Avast Free
Browser
FF, Chrome
Other Info
2x LG GH24NSC0 DVD burners, Mackie CR3 monitor speakers
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