How to avoid Installation of WIN 7 SP1 ?

[thenoo]

Due to its interference with aspects of some software I run , I wish to avoid the installation of SP1 but allow other MS updates .

After replying to a recent message from MS informing me of the availability of recent updates SP1 installed together with the other updates which were also available.

I have now uninstalled SP1 in order to get my affected software running again.

Can I have the SP1 update automatically excluded from these regular update invitations lists so that the danger of another inadvertant inclusion with other desirable updates.

 

[severedsolo]

Can you not just hide SP1 in the list of available Updates?

On the Windows Update Screen, right click SP1 and then click "Hide Update" that should make it go away.

 

[t-4-2]

Due to its interference with aspects of some software I run , I wish to avoid the installation of SP1 but allow other MS updates .

After replying to a recent message from MS informing me of the availability of recent updates SP1 installed together with the other updates which were also available.

I have now uninstalled SP1 in order to get my affected software running again.

Can I have the SP1 update automatically excluded from these regular update invitations lists so that the danger of another inadvertant inclusion with other desirable updates.

1. You need to have Windows Update set as MANUAL.

2. Next time SP1 shows up for install, right click at it > click Hide.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/24376-windows-update-hide-restore-hidden-updates.html

P.S. editing....
Not sure it is a good idea NOT to install SP1. Some future updates will depend on SP1 being already installed.

 

[djl47]

This isn't a viable long term solution since SP1 will be a prerequisite for future maintenance. Can you describe the limitations of the software and why it won't work under SP1? Is this software something you could run using the virtual XP environment for Windows 7.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/

 

[Coke Robot]

It's going to be difficult getting new updates since most updates are going to update components of Windows that SP1 did. What software is being affected?

 

[t-4-2]

This isn't a viable long term solution since SP1 will be a prerequisite for future maintenance. Can you describe the limitations of the software and why it won't work under SP1? Is this software something you could run using the virtual XP environment for Windows 7.

Windows Virtual PC: Home Page

Note: Windows XP Mode is only available in Windows 7 Enterprise, Windows 7 Professional, and Windows 7 Ultimate.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/requirements.aspx

 

[thenoo]

Can you not just hide SP1 in the list of available Updates?

Didn't know that was possible before - Thanks

On the Windows Update Screen, right click SP1 and then click "Hide Update" that should make it go away.

Will try that.

 

[thenoo]

This isn't a viable long term solution since SP1 will be a prerequisite for future maintenance. Can you describe the limitations of the software and why it won't work under SP1? Is this software something you could run using the virtual XP environment for Windows 7.

Windows Virtual PC: Home Page

I agree with the logic of your reply here but the question which should surely be asked is why SP1 should break something which worked before it was installed !

The software in question is the Logitec "Squeexebox" which I use to stream music files from my hard disk. The streaming works OK but my access to the web page of the music server involved which was accessed by the URL http://127.0.0.1:9000 is no longer available after SP1 is installed- something to do with access to the port 9000 I understand.

On the Squeezebox Forum there is the following work-around for this which is supposed to enable such access with SP1 installed but I have been unable to have any success following it.

Here is the work-around :-

"

Windows Firewall settings walkthrough
I had same problem as everyone else here
Am running Win 7 64bit ultimate
Bizarrely enough after the SP1 update could run the squeezebox fine of the server, as long as i did not reboot. After every reboot needed to re-install the SBS software!
Solved it thanks to Wilkes and others
several people asking for a walkthrough though so here goes :

1 control panel/windows firewall/advanced settings
2 go to inbound rules
3 locate ALL rules named "Squeezebox Server" and DELETE them
4 Make NEW rule
Name: Squeezebox Server
Program : direct it to the SqueezeSrv.exe file on your computer
-> Usualy at C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\SqueezeSvr.exe
Protocol: UDP
Specific Ports: 3483, 9000, 9090
Advanced/profiles/private (private only)
5 Make NEW rule
Name: Squeezebox Server
Program : All Programs
Protocol: TCP
Specific Ports: 3483, 9000, 9090
Advanced/profiles/private (private only)"

Incidentally , there are several users of this s/w having the same problem as can be seen if one follows the posts on the SB Forum

 

[severedsolo]

So SP1 tightened up the firewall? That's a good thing surely...

What exactly are you struggling with with the workaround? we can probably help you.

 

[carwiz]

As already mentioned, hiding SP1 is a temporary solution. Since SP1 is just a roll-up of updates up to that point, the individual updates may still try to install since many are required for other updates (prerequisites). And, you loose some very serious security protection. I would keep Windows up to date and use the workaround. It looks like it allows a single server to use backdoors to your system. Not a particularly wise choice so I would put the pressure on Logitec to change its method. You're assuming the Squeezebox server will always be secure too. What if they are short-cutting security just like you?

 

[thenoo]

So SP1 tightened up the firewall? That's a good thing surely...

I agree of course.

What exactly are you struggling with with the workaround? we can probably help you.

See my reply No8 . Here is the workaround given in the relevant Forum (Squeezebox Forum) once more. I tried this after installing SP1 but could not access the SB server through the usual URL http://127.0.0.1:9000/

WORKAROUND :-
1 control panel/windows firewall/advanced settings
2 go to inbound rules
3 locate ALL rules named "Squeezebox Server" and DELETE them
4 Make NEW rule
Name: Squeezebox Server
Program : direct it to the SqueezeSrv.exe file on your computer
-> Usualy at C:\Program Files (x86)\Squeezebox\server\SqueezeSvr.exe
Protocol: UDP
Specific Ports: 3483, 9000, 9090
Advanced/profiles/private (private only)
5 Make NEW rule
Name: Squeezebox Server
Program : All Programs
Protocol: TCP
Specific Ports: 3483, 9000, 9090
Advanced/profiles/private (private only)"

Some people say they got this to solve it .

I realise this is all off-topic here and its not exactly the end of the world with this problem .
I'll follow everyones advice here and re-install SP1 for the sake of Security and try to take it further with Logitec who are ultimately responsible.

Thanks for eveyones advice here and for the offer of help

 

[niemiro]

Hello!

I also have a Logitec Squeezebox (and its Server). I currently don't have a Window 7 machine lying around, as my Win 7 laptop is currently being borrowed, but I will have it back in a few days. That laptop has SP1 on it. I can if necessary test things out, for anyone.

However, in the meantime, I am sure we can help just by using those posted instructions.

Have you managed to follow those instructions? Have you run through all of the steps, unknowingly correctly or not, and it still doesn't work, or are you getting stuck at a particular step?

Thanks a lot, and the very best of luck!

Richard

 

[carwiz]

Just saw something else. Are you sure that URL is correct? (127.0.0.1:9000/) That's a loopback to your PC (local host) but it doesn't look like a valid IPv4 format. What happens if you change it to "127.0.0.1/9000"?

 

[HammerHead]

IE9

Are you using IE9 as a browser? If so is the squeeze box server compatiable?

 

[thenoo]

Are you using IE9 as a browser? If so is the squeeze box server compatiable?

I am using IE9 and don't know whether the squeezebox server is compatible.

Will try to get this info from the SB Forum and post back here.

 

[thenoo]

Just saw something else. Are you sure that URL is correct? (127.0.0.1:9000/) That's a loopback to your PC (local host) but it doesn't look like a valid IPv4 format

Yes it is correct

. What happens if you change it to "127.0.0.1/9000"?

The same result I think. I'm just about to re-install SP1 .When I do I'll confirm this.