HOW TO INSTALL DUAL BOOT 10/7 SYSTEM ON NVMe DRIVE WITH 10 FIRST?

ShArKy

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HOW TO INSTALL DUAL BOOT 10/7 SYSTEM ON NVMe DRIVE WITH 10 FIRST?

hello everyone :) as much as things have changed in the past 10 years my love of puters hasnt...
since my BIG system has been packed away im doing jobs for other people & here's my first big challenge.

they have an NVMe SSD drive with windows 10 version 2004 on it already... ive partitioned the drive to get it ready for a windows 7 install for a dual boot...the problem is after the 7 installer loads the temp files, the mouse & keyboard stop working at the SET UP NEXT window...ive contacted samsung to find out there was a driver problem with windows 7 & NVMe drives which ive already installed what i thought was the hot fix for ...but now it still happens so ive found a few more options but im not sure which option i should go with since it can very quickly turn into a bottomless pit LOL..

CAN ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THE FASTEST & EASIEST OPTION I HAVE?
im trying to avoid installing on other drives & cloning partitions...BLA BLA BLA since acronis can only clone entire drives ^ NOT separate partitions...if i can install onto a regular HD & then update that version of 7 to work on an SSD drive maybe i can find a program that can clone partitions?

id like to give an update for the situation so far as ive spent many hours on this & its still not solved but maybe im getting closer...

after i tried to follow these steps after painstakingly trying to update the bootable 7 files with the NVMe & USB drivers, when i rebooted into win 7 the colored lights swirled around while it was loading the OS but then it just again rebooted....i then rebooted back into win 10 to check things & saw the install filled up the drive with 17 GB of data in the typical directories but when i went into \Windows\System32\drivers i couldnt find the NMVe drivers i thought were supposed to be there...

another option i tried was running the SETUP exec from the usb flash drive i made...at frirst it froze during the install screen so i downloaded & installed these samsung drivers i got from their website by running it from inside win 10...even tho i figured it wouldnt help much, the next time i tried to run the setup exec from the flash drive, it actually allowed me to choose the correct partition & start the install...BUT after it had copied all the files it started to expand them & about 6% into the second stage i got another error that said windows couldnt install "a driver" never saying exactly which one, i was again set back....it seems to be very difficult to do this when it should have been so easy...
CAN ANYONE HELP?
 

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HELLO & thanks for your kind reply...what you said is exactly what i did...but it didnt help..at least the way i did it...the funny thing was after i installed the stupid samsung drivers into win 10 it actually DID help for a few minutes while the files loaded///i need a better way of updating the win 7 install files...THE OTHER thing i was thinking is does the version of the NVMe make a difference?...i was using version Samsung NVMe driver v3.3.0.2003 but the circulating one is Samsung NVMe drivers v1.4.7.17 ...does the newer one make this harder to accomplish?? I HAVE A SAMSUNG 970
 

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windows 10 pro (x64), windows 7 ultimate (x64...dual intel xeon 5680 (hexacore) socket 136648 GB corsair dominator ddr3 @ 1600 mhzevga gtx 460 (2x)
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
evga & intel xeon dream machine❤
OS
windows 10 pro (x64), windows 7 ultimate (x64), windows XP (64)
CPU
dual intel xeon 5680 (hexacore) socket 1366
Motherboard
evga sr-2
Memory
48 GB corsair dominator ddr3 @ 1600 mhz
Graphics Card(s)
evga gtx 460 (2x)
Sound Card
creative sound blaster X-Fi titanium fatal1ty champion
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC 2690 (3x) & 1 LCD 65" flat screen TV (quadruple desktop)
Screen Resolution
3 @ 1920 X 1200 & 1 @ 1920 X 1080
Hard Drives
2 WD 600 GB velociraptor
4 WD caviar black 1 TB
2 WD caviar black 2 TB
(9 TB total drive space)
PSU
evga sr-2 1200 watt
Case
custom mountain mods ascension
Cooling
corsair h70
Keyboard
microsoft natural 4000
Mouse
ozone radon 5k
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optonline (some kinda boost thing)
When duel booting you have to install the older version first the reason being 7 won't understand 10 boot config then how is ten setup Jeri gpt as that may confuse it
 

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ShArKy, I've seen on Tenforums that you still trying to install Win 7 on your computer.

Do you have a link to the MB site so I can have a look at the BIOS configuration?
 

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1. Forgive my stgipidity... the MB site?
2. Before migration, during my back up to a SSD thumb drive., is it best to leave or uninstall Programs I either have installation discs for or that I can download again?
 

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metaguy, OP mention a Mother Board (MB) and I want to look for the manual on the site.
Answering, your question, to clean the disk you want to backup is just a matter of free space on the SSD thumb drive.
 

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    Windows 7 HP 64i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000IG - Intel 530
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    PC/Desktop
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    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
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    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
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    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
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    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
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    Realtek
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    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
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    1920 x 1080
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    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
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    500 Mb/s
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    Firefox
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